RE: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-12-04 Thread Jeremy Brooking
On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 15:26, Eric (Deacon) wrote: ...oh shit, I *SUCK*! :P -- Eric (the Deacon remix) Couldnt have put it better myself :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-12-04 Thread Eric (Deacon)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive On Thu, 2002-12-05 at 15:26, Eric (Deacon) wrote: ...oh shit, I *SUCK*! :P -- Eric (the Deacon remix) Couldnt have put it better myself :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-29 Thread SQLBoy
Yeah but who cares. You might be able to turn it into a sale at some point. Anyway, when the customer buys your software he isn't going to magically know all your copy protection methods before they start to show up. Make it hard for them to function in every way possible and make buying a new

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-29 Thread Rene Luckow
On Friday 29 November 2002 17:46, SQLBoy wrote: Yeah but who cares. You might be able to turn it into a sale at some point. Anyway, when the customer buys your software he isn't going to magically know all your copy protection methods before they start to show up. Make it hard for them to

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-28 Thread Rene Luckow
On Thursday 28 November 2002 21:57, Jeremy Brooking wrote: On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 08:46, Rene Luckow wrote: On Thursday 28 November 2002 04:01, Jeremy Brooking wrote: Youre the one who has loved your car analogys since day one, hence why i put it in a form you could perhaps take a grasp

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-28 Thread Jeremy Brooking
On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 10:50, Rene Luckow wrote: yes, but if you take something out a context, you have to place it somehting comparable... the principle of the situation in an analogy has to be the same... According to the dictionary, no. But this is way to off topic for discussion.

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-28 Thread Rene Luckow
On Thursday 28 November 2002 23:09, Jeremy Brooking wrote: On Fri, 2002-11-29 at 10:50, Rene Luckow wrote: yes, but if you take something out a context, you have to place it somehting comparable... the principle of the situation in an analogy has to be the same... According to the

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-27 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Why not just find a way to stop them from installing single user apps on all of their machines If you know of a way, please enlighten me. That would require a helluvalot of intelligence in the installer. instead of making draconian EULA's. How many EULA's do you know of that do not define

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-27 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Youre driving along, the police pull you over, and take away your car for a week, simply because of a mistake. Do you go Oh well its for the greater good or do you kick up a stink? If my playing an online game were necessary for my daily functionality, putting food on the table, etc, then I

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-27 Thread Jeremy Brooking
On Thu, 2002-11-28 at 14:04, Eric (Deacon) wrote: Youre driving along, the police pull you over, and take away your car for a week, simply because of a mistake. Do you go Oh well its for the greater good or do you kick up a stink? If my playing an online game were necessary for my daily

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Guðmundur Ö. Ingvarsson
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread James Clark
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 10:37:41AM +, Guðmundur Ö. Ingvarsson wrote: Okay, just to get this all straight A first time offender gets banned 24 hours right? If not that should be acceptable A second time offender should get a week ban. A third time offender is permanantly banned. This

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Chip Marshall
On November 27, 2002, James Clark sent me the following: On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 10:37:41AM +, Gu?mundur ?. Ingvarsson wrote: A first time offender gets banned 24 hours right? If not that should be acceptable A second time offender should get a week ban. A third time offender is

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Jeremy Brooking
On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 19:27, Eric (Deacon) wrote: User has been banned for Eric (Deacon) fan club membership Are you kidding? They programmed reserved slots into all public HL servers that only members can use. It's sneaky, but not having to type retry over and over again is a great way to

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Jeremy Brooking
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 08:56, Chip Marshall wrote: So you suggest we permanently ban anyone who VAC detects as cheating? Meaning that people, like myself, would no longer be able to play CS until we either purchased a new CD for a new CD Key or stole one, if we were cheating or if VAC had a

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Jeremy Brooking
On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 23:37, Guðmundur Ö. Ingvarsson wrote: A first time offender gets banned 24 hours right? If not that should be acceptable A second time offender should get a week ban. A third time offender is permanantly banned. Yeah, that sounds, ok, but do my false positives count? How

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread matthew gossage
How do we join this club then :-) - Original Message - From: Jeremy Brooking [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 8:26 PM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 19:27, Eric (Deacon) wrote: User has been banned

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread James Clark
A policy that allows for one warning is a license to steal until caught. - UNIX system administration handbook. Meaning that people, like myself, would no longer be able to play CS until we either purchased a new CD for a new CD Key or stole one, if we were cheating or if VAC had a

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Chip Marshall
On November 27, 2002, James Clark sent me the following: A policy that allows for one warning is a license to steal until caught. - UNIX system administration handbook. Meaning that people, like myself, would no longer be able to play CS until we either purchased a new CD for a new

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Jeremy Brooking
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 11:42, James Clark wrote: I may be biased, but I don't think that's a good idea until VAC is 100% accurate I agree. (which is highly improbably of ever becoming a reality.) I don't agree. Then im sure youd be able to name 1 piece of software that is 100% secure

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread James Clark
How many software products do you use that are 100% accurate and stable, not only for you, but for thousands of users on thousands of different machines with thousands of different configurations? Windows 95 =) bwahahhaha ___ To unsubscribe, edit

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread James Clark
I may be biased, but I don't think that's a good idea until VAC is 100% accurate I agree. (which is highly improbably of ever becoming a reality.) I don't agree. Then im sure youd be able to name 1 piece of software that is 100% secure and foolproof. The argument wasn't

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Matthew Hartwig
I was going to say any Microsoft product, but you picked the winner :) -Original Message- From: James Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 27 November 2002 10:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive Windows 95. bwahahha

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Jeremy Brooking
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 12:34, James Clark wrote: I may be biased, but I don't think that's a good idea until VAC is 100% accurate I agree. (which is highly improbably of ever becoming a reality.) I don't agree. Then im sure youd be able to name 1 piece of software

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Rick and Cheryl
At 12:01 PM 11/26/02 -0800, you wrote: Message: 12 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2002 14:56:15 -0500 From: Chip Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A policy that allows for one warning is a license to steal until caught

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-26 Thread Mad Scientist
On Tuesday 26 November 2002 03:06 pm, Jeremy Brooking wrote: Then im sure youd be able to name 1 piece of software that is 100% secure and foolproof. Oh, you cant, nevermind then. qmail hasn't had a security patch since 1997 and there is a reward if you find an exploit so I'm sure people have

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-25 Thread Guðmundur Ö. Ingvarsson
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Re: [hlds_linux] VAC false positive

2002-11-24 Thread Chip Marshall
This does bring up a somewhat interesting issue though. With 90% of the software I use (FreeBSD, Mozilla, OpenOffice, etc), there are clear ways of filing bug reports. You've got a problem, you fill out a form, you get a tracking number, and you get to know when someone has dealt with it. Why is