[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Bryan
> Gesendet: Samstag, 10. März 2007 06:31
> An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
> Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
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> We have made that decision, our CS 1.6 server is down for good. In
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Parker Lewis
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
First my personal statement on the new ads: I hate them.
Mostly the annoying topleft banner (did ya recently played
dea
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> If they won't give you a refund, find some attorney. This would definitely
> fall into "class" action status.
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>> Parker Lewis
>> Sent:
ent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:37 PM
> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
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> First my personal statement on the new ads: I hate them.
> Mostly the annoying topleft banner (did ya recently played
> deathmatch/gungame? A 3 seconds d
First my personal statement on the new ads: I hate them. Mostly the
annoying topleft banner (did ya recently played deathmatch/gungame? A
3 seconds delayed spawning makes this ad really disturbing..).
The question I have is: Is it legal? You can apply it on everything:
buying something ad-free, wh
If you CS guys want to quit and come play UT2004 we'd be happy to have
you. I wouldn't put up with this if I were you.
John Sheu wrote:
/rant
Quite frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing people whine about thi_. Don't
get me wrong: I am all against in-game advertisements. I feel that they
d
Oh and the second thing, the ads aint small!
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From: "Andrew Forsberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
On 08/03/2007, at 10:25 AM, Saint K. wrote:
Dont you think suppor
No, but there you can fill in any of the other advantages they already had
over the succes of CS.
Saint K.
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From: "Andrew Forsberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
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You might quit playing it, but they already have your money.
They're not losing much because you stop playing.
On 3/7/07, ics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> In-game adds are not added into game because of money problems. Valve
> has not made a
From: "Thomas S. Crum - AAA Web Solution"
Why not turn the source code over to the community that supported it in
the first place. That is if this is truly an intellectual debate speaking
to what is best for everyone and not just a "sponging revenue off a
deprecated product" discussion.
Good
ponging revenue off a
deprecated product" discussion.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Andrew Forsberg
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:53 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
On 08/03/
In-game adds are not added into game because of money problems. Valve
has not made any mentions about funding problems and there should not be
any. Game has paid itself back many times already so nothing justifies
the adverts in-game. Game itself doesnt cost that much to run as you think.
They o
Just remember its $0.50 a minute on your soap box :) Seriously though
you are right to a large extent, until people stick to their guns and
say NO MORE CS then it will go on.
Crazy_One
John Sheu wrote:
/rant
Quite frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing people whine about thi_. Don't
get me
discussion.
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> Andrew Forsberg
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:53 PM
> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
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> On
On 08/03/2007, at 10:25 AM, Saint K. wrote:
Dont you think supporting a game once its released has been pre-
calculated
in the bugets?
When the budget has expired do you want to see support for the game
cease completely? or could you put up with a few small ads here and
there?
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 3:20 pm, Falk Husemann wrote:
> And by "you", I mean the vast mass of bitching bigheaded University
> of Texas CS players out there. So
> nothing personal.
What makes you think I play CS anymore? I don't.
-John Sheu
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To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
Re: CS: Source having ads:
On 08/03/2007, at 6:06 AM, Cc2iscooL wrote:
Not until it hits $9.99.
My point exactly.
CS 1.6 is an old game that is costing them a lot more m
Sorry, couldn't resist this time.
Am Mar 7, 2007 um 9:52 PM schrieb John Sheu:
/rant
Quite frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing people whine about
thi_. Don't
get me wrong: I am all against in-game advertisements. I feel that
they
detract from the gameplay experience and the congruity of
Re: CS: Source having ads:
On 08/03/2007, at 6:06 AM, Cc2iscooL wrote:
Not until it hits $9.99.
My point exactly.
CS 1.6 is an old game that is costing them a lot more money to run
than they're making out of it. You may be running a server for love
or profit, or both. Valve is a business too,
/rant
Quite frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing people whine about thi_. Don't
get me wrong: I am all against in-game advertisements. I feel that they
detract from the gameplay experience and the congruity of the environment,
and are generally just a cheap trick to cash in on a popular game.
Valves EULA applies if it doesnt go over a law in the country where the
software is used. However, there is no law in any country, as far as i
know, that allows other company software to be used for commercial
purposes by other companies if the company policies which provide the
software, strictl
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
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> > Read the Valve EULA. You are not allowed to use any part of their
> > software, for any kind of commercial gain.
> > I'm no lawye
NAh thats quiet easy to get around. You just provide the space for the game
to be hosted.
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From: "Regime" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
Read the Valve EULA. You are no
Read the Valve EULA. You are not allowed to use any part of their
software, for any kind of commercial gain.
I'm no lawyer, but the way I read it, it technically even renders GSP's
hosting their games 'illegal' though, as they are making money by
hosting the Valve server-software.
Anyway, mani doe
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From: "LDuke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Actually, you can't. Remember a while back when a company was putting
subway
ads into CS:S servers? Valve said it was against the EULA and they had to
stop.
If you're advertising your server/website they probably won't say much,
but
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thing is its unsupported by Valve so it shouldnt even be $9.99 i understand
they cant make it free becouse they'll just get flooded with emails about
cheats etc. but with CZ and Source you can play offline against bots. what
doe's CS have ? no bot
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Not until it hits $9.99.
On 3/7/07, Ondřej Hošek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> We are their most valuable asset, but they ignore our opinion about ads
> and sixty-four bits... (Don't forget they don't make any money off us,
> letting us earn mon
We are their most valuable asset, but they ignore our opinion about ads
and sixty-four bits... (Don't forget they don't make any money off us,
letting us earn money for hosting instead.) I advise you to get over
it... they gamble on the probability that we will never manage to
organize a global st
do you do things like this? We also
are all players - do you hear our voice? Is there ONE server admin who likes
this idea? I doubt it...
N
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: Re:
> [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads> Date: Wed,
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On 3/6/07, Andrew Forsberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Erm, tough! :-) You could always put your own ads on the server to finance
> your hardware and connection.
>
>
Actually, you can't. Remember a while back when a company was putting subway
Andrew Forsberg wrote:
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>> On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Frederick P wrote:
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>>> I
>>> don't see any reason for this idea to be added to Ad unless if it is a
>>> marketing scheme to kill off CS 1.6 and get people into CS Source.
>
> Hmmm, I doubt that. CS *was* a cash cow, but I imagine sales figures
> fo
i Kiviniemi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
The ad's are on clientside, not serverside, so there is really now ad's
on your server. The client's game draws them. There's already a two way
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Frederick P wrote:
I
don't see any reason for this idea to be added to Ad unless if it is a
marketing scheme to kill off CS 1.6 and get people into CS Source.
Hmmm, I doubt that. CS *was* a cash cow, but I imagine sales figures for it
these days are rather slim. They've g
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> >> The ad's are on clientside, not serverside, so there is really now ad's
> >> on your server. Th
: "Valtteri Kiviniemi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
The ad's are on clientside, not serverside, so there is really now ad's
on your server. The client's game draws them. There's already a two
Please tell me some key words ;) I will figure it out myself then.
Saint K.
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From: "Valtteri Kiviniemi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
The ad's are on clientside, not
The ad's are on clientside, not serverside, so there is really now ad's
on your server. The client's game draws them. There's already a two way
to disable the ad's, but that's forbidden so I don't tell you how to do
that.
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Valtteri
Marcel Beringer kirjoitti:
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Frederick P w
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Frederick P wrote:
Well, they are finally here... a lot of negative feedbacks so far... I
personally don't see the reason to have in game Ads. People paid for the
product, they deserve having a product without Ads. It makes more sense for
a Free version of CS 1.6 to be relea
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>From the discussions last night with fellow gamers and server admins last
night, there is going to be a huge backlash against this. I for one have paid
for my HL and CSS WITHOUT adverts. To now tell me as a server owner/admin I
have to let VALVE advertise on a
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i aggree with you on what you have said. i dont understand how they can
still make money from a game the apperently dont support anymore ? if you
dont support it why sell it ?? maybe with the money your going to make from
these adverts you might f
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