RE: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs

2005-10-30 Thread James Tucker
I'd just like to say, and this is to no one in particular... If you have never been involved in a large scale software development then you can have no idea what it is like to release updates as frequently as Valve do. It is the very players the updates are aimed at, as there is not another

Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs

2005-10-30 Thread Joseph Laws
You're right, I can't think of another game creator that makes people pay to beta test their software instead of making sure it works in-house first... James Tucker wrote: I'd just like to say, and this is to no one in particular... If you have never been involved in a large scale software

Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs

2005-10-30 Thread Eric (Deacon)
In a bold display of creativity, Joseph Laws wrote: You're right, I can't think of another game creator that makes people pay to beta test their software instead of making sure it works in-house first... I can't tell if that's sarcastic or not, but if not, you need to get out more. Have you

Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs

2005-10-30 Thread Joseph Laws
EA is worse, of course. However, I'm not sure if EA releases two patches in one day: one to patch the game, one to patch what they broke in the patch earlier in the day. Eric (Deacon) wrote: In a bold display of creativity, Joseph Laws wrote: You're right, I can't think of another game

Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs

2005-10-30 Thread Eric (Deacon)
In a bold display of creativity, Joseph Laws wrote: EA is worse, of course. However, I'm not sure if EA releases two patches in one day: one to patch the game, one to patch what they broke in the patch earlier in the day. Exactly. That second patch would be released another two or three

Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs

2005-10-30 Thread Joseph Laws
LOL :) I think we're on the same wavelength here, however you'd think a patch would be tested before release instead of needing another patch within a few hours. Am I right? Eric (Deacon) wrote: In a bold display of creativity, Joseph Laws wrote: EA is worse, of course. However, I'm not

Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs

2005-10-30 Thread Eric (Deacon)
In a bold display of creativity, Joseph Laws wrote: LOL :) I think we're on the same wavelength here, however you'd think a patch would be tested before release instead of needing another patch within a few hours. Am I right? Are you saying it wasn't tested? You think they do a full system

Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs

2005-10-30 Thread Erik Hollensbe
On Oct 30, 2005, at 11:03 AM, Eric (Deacon) wrote: In a bold display of creativity, Joseph Laws wrote: LOL :) I think we're on the same wavelength here, however you'd think a patch would be tested before release instead of needing another patch within a few hours. Am I right? Are you

Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs

2005-10-28 Thread sirtom__
As you should have read about it in the digest, Alfred already gave a statement about this: When it's done. We all don't want a binary that causes problems after release, or do we? ;-) hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com schrieb am 28.10.05 04:26:26: Will Vac 2 ever be released on AMD64 bit

RE: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs (OT)

2005-10-28 Thread Simon Lange
Hi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 11:25 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs As you should have read about

Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs

2005-10-28 Thread Joseph Laws
No, we don't. I think that's why most GSP's will start pushing COD2, Quake4 and F.E.A.R. instead of relying on VALVe to get their act together. The people playing the game are just as frustrated as those who host it, perhaps a drop of players is just the medicine. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As

Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs

2005-10-28 Thread Michael Berkowitz
I am still very confused by how Valve could release a VAC2 update without including all platforms. What has it been 4 months now and no 64bit version of va2. Here is the press release from Valve on March 7, 2003 announcing 64bit support for Counter-Strike.

Re: [hlds_linux] RE: hlds_linux digest, Vol 1 #4721 - 3 msgs

2005-10-28 Thread Craig Moore
Would it be the first time? As far as I can tell, my CS:S still has a memory leak and I've seen at least one release where we actually had to update again to fix a problematic update. I wonder what the rest of the gaming industry thinks about the involved parties. On 10/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]