Re: [Hol-info] well-ordering theorem

2010-01-22 Thread Rob Arthan
On 21 Jan 2010, at 18:07, Roger Bishop Jones wrote: > On Wednesday 20 January 2010 16:02:10 Roger Bishop Jones wrote: > >> On Tuesday 19 January 2010 18:07:32 Lockwood Morris wrote: >>> The only relevant information I have come across is Stewart Shapiro's >>> statement, in Foundations without Fo

Re: [Hol-info] well-ordering theorem

2010-01-21 Thread Roger Bishop Jones
On Wednesday 20 January 2010 16:02:10 Roger Bishop Jones wrote: > On Tuesday 19 January 2010 18:07:32 Lockwood Morris wrote: > > The only relevant information I have come across is Stewart Shapiro's > > statement, in Foundations without Foundationalism, that in set theory > > done with second-orde

Re: [Hol-info] well-ordering theorem

2010-01-21 Thread John Harrison
I once did a proof of the well-ordering principle and several other Axiom of Choice equivalents (Zorn's Lemma etc.) in HOL88: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~jrh13/papers/wellorder-library.html This proof certainly survives in HOL Light (Examples/wo.ml), and possibly in other versions of HOL too. F

Re: [Hol-info] well-ordering theorem

2010-01-20 Thread Roger Bishop Jones
Further to my last message on this topic, I did discover the place in Shapiro where he talks about this (5.1.3 p107). On Tuesday 19 January 2010 18:07:32 Lockwood Morris wrote: > The only relevant information I have come across is Stewart Shapiro's > statement, in Foundations without Foundation

Re: [Hol-info] well-ordering theorem

2010-01-20 Thread Roger Bishop Jones
On Tuesday 19 January 2010 18:7:32 Lockwood Morris wrote: > Does anyone know if it is possible to prove the well-ordering theorem in > HOL for an arbitrary type? That is, using the terminology of > relationTheory, > > ?R:'a->'a->bool. WF R /\ StrongLinearOrder R . There is a proof in Proof

[Hol-info] well-ordering theorem

2010-01-19 Thread Lockwood Morris
Does anyone know if it is possible to prove the well-ordering theorem in HOL for an arbitrary type? That is, using the terminology of relationTheory, ?R:'a->'a->bool. WF R /\ StrongLinearOrder R . Or just the StrongLinearOrder part would suit me too. My motivation is somewhat practical: I