Re: [homenet] A poll

2015-02-23 Thread Hans Liu
> > > 0) Have you managed to get ipv6 working at all? If so, how? What sort > of problems did you encounter? > Yes. I use DIR-855L at home, PPPoE. The only problem I have so far is my ISP gives only /64 via PD. > > 1) Have you attempted to deploy a routing protocol in your home? Which > one, and

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-23 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
> So, there are limitations like: > struct router all_the_routers[256]; > > and then there are protocol collapses due to taking the entire channel for > adjacencies as happened with OLPC. We're in full agreement about most of what you say. Are you happy with the current wording, or are you sugges

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-23 Thread Michael Richardson
Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: >> So assuming some decent high-power 802.11ac in the Bradford house >> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Is_Enough) to link the per-room router to >> legacy 802.11b and per-person (phone) router to BTLE/PAN, it means we have >> about 30 routers on th

Re: [homenet] DNCP questions

2015-02-23 Thread Markus Stenberg
On 23.2.2015, at 18.51, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > Another question -- is it possible to participate in Trickle-driven > flooding without building the full topology graph? > > If not, that's a little disappointing, since Trickle is designed so that > it can be implemented while knowing just my

Re: [homenet] DNCP questions

2015-02-23 Thread Markus Stenberg
On 23.2.2015, at 17.24, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: >> post MTU, or in secure mode, it should just use the Short one (which is >> of fixed length). > Ok. So I send multicast SNS. I receive NSR. I'm supposed to send LSR, > right? But it doesn't fit in maximum packet size, even with fragmentation

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-23 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
> So assuming some decent high-power 802.11ac in the Bradford house > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight_Is_Enough) to link the per-room router to > legacy 802.11b and per-person (phone) router to BTLE/PAN, it means we have > about 30 routers on the wifi. I'm under opposing pressures relating to

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-23 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Hi Michael, The work on the document is being done on https://github.com/choppsv1 and I try to keep an up-to-date version of the generated files on http://www.pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr/~jch/private/draft-mrw-homenet-rtg-comparison-XX.html http://www.pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr/~jch/private/dr

Re: [homenet] DNCP questions

2015-02-23 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
>> The minimum MTU in IPv6 is 1280 bytes, and the minimum maximum packet size >> (before fragmentation) is 1500 bytes. > I assume you refer to Long Network Status (on multicast); Yes, sorry. > post MTU, or in secure mode, it should just use the Short one (which is > of fixed length). Ok. So I

Re: [homenet] Roaming hosts [was: Routing protocol comparison document]

2015-02-23 Thread Mark Townsley
When a host connects to a different link covered by a different subnet, indeed it will require a new IP address. That's pretty fundamental to what a subnet is. Hosts are getting better and better at handling multiple addresses, of both versions, coming and going. MPTCP should continue to help in th

Re: [homenet] Roaming hosts [was: Routing protocol comparison document]

2015-02-23 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015, Ole Troan wrote: are you replying to the point I made? cause fully functioning MHMP requires host support (read MP-TCP/session layer) regardless of moving or not. If I extrapolated correctly what Juliusz wrote, that is not what he had in mind. with regards to a proposa

Re: [homenet] Roaming hosts [was: Routing protocol comparison document]

2015-02-23 Thread Ole Troan
>>> On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:06 , Juliusz Chroboczek >>> wrote: >>> > The client is running a stub implementation of the routing protocol. >>> I thought we already had decided we didn't require changes to the host? >>> >>> We don't *require* changes to the host. We propose optional host

Re: [homenet] Roaming hosts [was: Routing protocol comparison document]

2015-02-23 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015, Ole Troan wrote: On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:06 , Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: The client is running a stub implementation of the routing protocol. I thought we already had decided we didn't require changes to the host? We don't *require* changes to the host. We propose o

Re: [homenet] Roaming hosts [was: Routing protocol comparison document]

2015-02-23 Thread Ole Troan
> On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:06 , Juliusz Chroboczek > wrote: > >>> The client is running a stub implementation of the routing protocol. > >> I thought we already had decided we didn't require changes to the host? > > We don't *require* changes to the host. We propose optional host > modification

Re: [homenet] DNCP questions

2015-02-23 Thread Markus Stenberg
On 23.2.2015, at 4.57, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > I have a few questions and comments about DNCP. (I haven't finished > grokking HNCP yet, so that will have to wait.) Thanks, we definitely need more eyes on this (keepalive logic was actually flawed in -00, but I dare you to find it without lo

[homenet] Draft submission deadline

2015-02-23 Thread Ray Bellis
Just a quick reminder to the WG that the submission cut-off date for Internet Drafts is two weeks today, at 23:59 UTC on March 9th. Ray ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet