[homenet] a modest plugfest proposal

2015-02-27 Thread Dave Taht
I hereby request of the chairs of this working group that they cancel any planned presentations at the upcoming meeting, and instead require of the group that they actually bring in their own router from anything off this list: http://downloads.openwrt.org/snapshots/trunk/ and there be, say, 5 et

Re: [homenet] L2 link status [was: More about marginal links]

2015-02-27 Thread Dave Taht
One of the things I am testing is the new (so far pretty wonderful) minstrel-blues patches for linux which couples rate control with reducing power where it can, and adds a per station rc_stats_csv file that can be easily parsed by external utilities. This gives you a snapshot of the actual rate to

Re: [homenet] L2 link status [was: More about marginal links]

2015-02-27 Thread Dave Taht
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > In message > > Henning Rogge writes: > >> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Curtis Villamizar >> wrote: >> > In message <87a903ef2j.wl-...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> >> > Juliusz Chroboczek writes: >> >> As to wireless links -- as far a

Re: [homenet] L2 link status [was: More about marginal links]

2015-02-27 Thread Dave Taht
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > > In message <87a903ef2j.wl-...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> > Juliusz Chroboczek writes: >> >> > Thought: In general, my feeling is that L2 link status is widely relied >> > upon in commercial product/dpeloyments. If homenet feels it can

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-27 Thread Dave Taht
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > In message <54ee258e.8060...@gmail.com> > Brian E Carpenter writes: > >> On 26/02/2015 05:14, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: >> > On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, Ray Hunter wrote: >> > >> >> That way the devices can roam at L3, without all of the nasty s

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-27 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message <54ee258e.8060...@gmail.com> Brian E Carpenter writes: > On 26/02/2015 05:14, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, Ray Hunter wrote: > > > >> That way the devices can roam at L3, without all of the nasty side effects > >> of re-establishing TPC sessions, or updating > >

Re: [homenet] L2 link status [was: More about marginal links]

2015-02-27 Thread Markus Stenberg
On 27.2.2015, at 23.37, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > Thanks for the response though. I use FreeBSD and other than rate and > S/N there isn't much, so could you send me sample output from a Linux > host or better yet a Linux AP with a few "neighbors". We can take > this off list and discuss the sam

Re: [homenet] L2 link status [was: More about marginal links]

2015-02-27 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message Henning Rogge writes: > On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Curtis Villamizar > wrote: > > In message <87a903ef2j.wl-...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> > > Juliusz Chroboczek writes: > >> As to wireless links -- as far as I'm aware, making efficient use of > >> wireless L2 information in a

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-27 Thread Dave Taht
I am glad, incidentally, that for the first time, this wg is considering some of the problems wifi has, and growing towards understanding them in more detail. I have long been working on finding answers to these deep, underlying problems - after first identifying some the major ones: https://www.y

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-27 Thread Ted Lemon
On Feb 27, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Teco Boot wrote: > My call is: keep going, let's solve it. If it takes TRILL, CAPWAP, CPE/cloud > based SDN: so be it. I want to see two- or three-pack high-end wired/wireless > homenet router kits in the shop that will replace our current gear. I'd love it if it di

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-27 Thread Teco Boot
> Op 27 feb. 2015, om 12:39 heeft Juliusz Chroboczek > het volgende geschreven: > >>> When performance in dual stack networks with multiple WiFi AP's in homes >>> suffers from homenet protocols, this WG produces dead protocols. > >> Why would homenet cause wifi APs to suffer more than they do

Re: [homenet] DNCP questions

2015-02-27 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
> Yep, intentionally so for now; of course, we could turn it even more in > the scalable (routing) protocol direction if there is desire. That's not quite what I meant. I'll try to put it differently. Right now, an HNCP node performs the following actions: 1. participate in Trickle-based floodi

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-27 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
>> When performance in dual stack networks with multiple WiFi AP's in homes >> suffers from homenet protocols, this WG produces dead protocols. > Why would homenet cause wifi APs to suffer more than they do today? I think Teco was reacting to the suggestion that we perform wifi-wifi bridging at a