Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-27 Thread Dave Taht
I am glad, incidentally, that for the first time, this wg is considering some of the problems wifi has, and growing towards understanding them in more detail. I have long been working on finding answers to these deep, underlying problems - after first identifying some the major ones:

Re: [homenet] L2 link status [was: More about marginal links]

2015-02-27 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message cagnrvupwf3n9jqmi_txwbxketo_59zdqqapcfcsyfduvqp8...@mail.gmail.com Henning Rogge writes: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Curtis Villamizar cur...@ipv6.occnc.com wrote: In message 87a903ef2j.wl-...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr Juliusz Chroboczek writes: As to wireless links -- as

Re: [homenet] L2 link status [was: More about marginal links]

2015-02-27 Thread Markus Stenberg
On 27.2.2015, at 23.37, Curtis Villamizar cur...@ipv6.occnc.com wrote: Thanks for the response though. I use FreeBSD and other than rate and S/N there isn't much, so could you send me sample output from a Linux host or better yet a Linux AP with a few neighbors. We can take this off list and

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-27 Thread Curtis Villamizar
In message 54ee258e.8060...@gmail.com Brian E Carpenter writes: On 26/02/2015 05:14, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, Ray Hunter wrote: That way the devices can roam at L3, without all of the nasty side effects of re-establishing TPC sessions, or updating dynamic

Re: [homenet] L2 link status [was: More about marginal links]

2015-02-27 Thread Dave Taht
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Curtis Villamizar cur...@ipv6.occnc.com wrote: In message 87a903ef2j.wl-...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr Juliusz Chroboczek writes: Thought: In general, my feeling is that L2 link status is widely relied upon in commercial product/dpeloyments. If homenet

Re: [homenet] L2 link status [was: More about marginal links]

2015-02-27 Thread Dave Taht
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Curtis Villamizar cur...@ipv6.occnc.com wrote: In message cagnrvupwf3n9jqmi_txwbxketo_59zdqqapcfcsyfduvqp8...@mail.gmail.com Henning Rogge writes: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Curtis Villamizar cur...@ipv6.occnc.com wrote: In message

Re: [homenet] L2 link status [was: More about marginal links]

2015-02-27 Thread Dave Taht
One of the things I am testing is the new (so far pretty wonderful) minstrel-blues patches for linux which couples rate control with reducing power where it can, and adds a per station rc_stats_csv file that can be easily parsed by external utilities. This gives you a snapshot of the actual rate

[homenet] a modest plugfest proposal

2015-02-27 Thread Dave Taht
I hereby request of the chairs of this working group that they cancel any planned presentations at the upcoming meeting, and instead require of the group that they actually bring in their own router from anything off this list: http://downloads.openwrt.org/snapshots/trunk/ and there be, say, 5

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-27 Thread Dave Taht
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Curtis Villamizar cur...@ipv6.occnc.com wrote: In message 54ee258e.8060...@gmail.com Brian E Carpenter writes: On 26/02/2015 05:14, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2015, Ray Hunter wrote: That way the devices can roam at L3, without all of the

Re: [homenet] Routing protocol comparison document

2015-02-27 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
When performance in dual stack networks with multiple WiFi AP's in homes suffers from homenet protocols, this WG produces dead protocols. Why would homenet cause wifi APs to suffer more than they do today? I think Teco was reacting to the suggestion that we perform wifi-wifi bridging at a

Re: [homenet] DNCP questions

2015-02-27 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Yep, intentionally so for now; of course, we could turn it even more in the scalable (routing) protocol direction if there is desire. That's not quite what I meant. I'll try to put it differently. Right now, an HNCP node performs the following actions: 1. participate in Trickle-based