Re: [homenet] securing zone transfer

On 07/06/2019 21:03, Daniel Migault wrote: Hi, The front end naming architecture uses a primary and a secondary dns server to synchronize a zone. The expected exchanges are (SOA, NOTIFY, IXFR, AXFR. We would like to get feed backs from the working group on what are the most appropriated way

Re: [homenet] Status of draft-tldm-simple-homenet-naming CFA

On 11/08/2017 13:40, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: >> DNS resolvers use round-robining. That's how the protocol works. > > Does that mean that dnsmasq breaks the protocol? AFAICR, that's one of those niggly parts of the DNS protocol that is not strictly specified. Ray ___

Re: [homenet] Status of draft-tldm-simple-homenet-naming CFA

On 11/08/2017 12:59, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > In simple terms, I said "Why don't we try implementing bits of this > document before we adopt". I never said "We need seven interoperable > independent implementations before adoption". Juliusz, IMNSHO, that's still too high a bar. kind regar

Re: [homenet] The HOMENET WG has placed draft-tldm-simple-homenet-naming in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

On 31/07/2017 10:53, Ted Lemon wrote: > Daniel wanted to do another update, but we needed to sync up first, and > I don't know where he is at with that now, but I think it would be > reasonable to put the CFA on hold pending that update. There have been > some good comments already, though; in p

Re: [homenet] Please review security considerations of draft-homenet-babel-profile

On 25/07/2017 22:58, Stephen Farrell wrote: > I suggest asking the chairs to hit the "request directorate" review > (iirc only they can see that button?) for an early secdir review. Good idea - I've just done this. Ray ___ homenet mailing list homen

Re: [homenet] WGLC on draft-ietf-homenet-dot-09

On 07/07/2017 14:43, Ted Lemon wrote: > Your second suggestion is what I meant. Thanks for taking the time > to write it—I totally missed the conflicting meaning of "validate". Ted, Please incorporate Andrew's proposed change, after which I shall (re-)advance this document to our AD for publi

[homenet] Draft minutes uploaded

With thanks to Tim Wicinski for manning the Etherpad, the minutes of last Monday's session are uploaded at: Please advise the Chairs (mailto:homenet-cha...@ietf.org) of any omissions or corrections by Monday 28th August. tha

[homenet] Reminder - Re: WGLC on draft-ietf-homenet-dot-09

The WGLC on this is due to run out next Tuesday. We've had a couple of comments, but we still need more people to confirm that they've read it and are happy for it to leave the WG. thanks, Ray On 04/07/2017 10:32, Ray Bellis wrote: > Given the relatively large number of ch

[homenet] WGLC on draft-ietf-homenet-dot-09

Given the relatively large number of changes in this document based on Suzanne's review and my own, I'm starting a *one week* WGLC on this document before it gets pushed back out to our AD again. There was very little response to the last WGLC so there are concerns over whether it has WG consensus

[homenet] Reminder - WG submission cutoff deadline approaching

The deadline for submitting draft updates (or new -00 drafts) is 23:59 UTC next Monday, July 3rd. Ray ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet

Re: [homenet] Please adopt ...

On 07/06/2017 18:02, Walter H. wrote: > in case this draft - not mine - > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cheshire-homenet-dot-home/ > becomes an RFC, everything is solved ... It won't, at least not within Homenet. It's been ruled out of scope for us, hence the application instead for .h

[homenet] Mailing list for Homenet Babel Security design team

There is now a mailing list for the design team specifying the integration of HNCP and Babel security. The list address is homenet-babel-...@ietf.org We have added those people that had initial discussions around this during IETF 97. Ray and Mark ___

[homenet] WGLC on draft-ietf-homenet-dot-05

This email starts a two week WGLC on draft-ietf-homenet-dot-05. Ted has updated this following Terry's ruling on ".homenet" to request ".home.arpa" instead. He has also incorporated other comments that came in after the last WGLC. Ray ___ homenet mail

[homenet] Draft minutes online

The draft minutes of the WG session at IETF 98 are now online, with thanks to Barbara Stark and Stuart Cheshire: If you have any comments please send them to the chairs by April 21st. Ray ___ hom

[homenet] Status update on -redact and -dothome

I thought the list had gotten automatic notification of this, but it seems not. Following the WGLC, and then our own reviews and write ups, Mark and I last week requested publication of draft-ietf-homenet-redact and draft-ietf-homenet-dot, so these documents are now out of the Working Group. They

[homenet] Chicago meeting logistics

IETF 98 is nearly upon us! The draft submission deadline is 23:59 UTC next Monday 13th, so please ensure that any new or updated drafts are submitted before then. The Homenet WG session has been scheduled for 09:00 on Monday 27th. We have been allocated a 2.5 hour slot, although we only requeste

Re: [homenet] Last call updates to draft-ietf-homenet-dothome and draft-ietf-homenet-redact

On 30/01/2017 20:11, Ralph Droms wrote: > Fine with me... Ralph - thanks for checking through Ted's edits. Mark and I shall be going through the documents ourselves this week before we advance them to the IESG. If any other people that made comments during WGLC would please also double check

Re: [homenet] WGLC on "redact" and "homenet-dot"

In light of the extensive discussion around the (non-existent) process for requesting an insecure delegation for .homenet [*], Mark and I have decided to allow more time for this to be considered, and therefore are extending the WGLC to Friday January 6th. In the meantime, Ted is shortly going to

Re: [homenet] [DNSOP] WGLC on "redact" and "homenet-dot"

On 15/12/2016 16:57, Bob Harold wrote: > If an insecure delegation can be made in the root, then could a local > trust anchor be used by those who want their .homenet domain DNSSEC > validated? That's what I would have expected to happen. > That seems easier than sharing keys or creating subdom

[homenet] WGLC on -redact and -homenet-dot

Just a quick reminder to the WG that only two days remain on the WGLC for these two documents. Ray ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet

[homenet] Draft WG session minutes online

With immense thanks to Stuart Cheshire who has produced an incredibly detailed transcript of our session, the draft session minutes are now online at: (it's "-04 "because it took me several attempts to strip out the unicode q

Re: [homenet] WGLC on "redact" and "homenet-dot"

On 21/11/2016 13:25, Ralph Droms wrote: > (Updated comments on draft-ietf-homenet-dot originally posted prior to the WG > last call) Thanks Ralph. I'd like to remind the WG that the LC is due to run until Friday December 16th, so please anyone else with comments please get them in. Ray _

Re: [homenet] Firewall hole punching [was: About Ted's naming architecture...]

On 23/11/2016 15:49, Tim Chown wrote: > I have my doubts that any attempt to flesh that out further now would > reach consensus, but given we’ve now moved on quite a way, e.g. knowing > we have HNCP, Babel, etc, and having witnessed Mirai, it might be worth > a try. Something for the chairs…? T

[homenet] WGLC on "redact" and "homenet-dot"

This email commences a four week WGLC comment period on draft-ietf-homenet-redact and draft-ietf-homenet-dot Please send any comments to the WG list as soon as possible. Whilst there was a very strong hum in favour of ".homenet" vs anything else during the meeting, and there's some discussion of

Re: [homenet] On the TLD question and validatably-insecure delegation

On 18/11/2016 12:59, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > I think the point is that geeky people who are using ssh are not > really the population for whom we need to produce all this. After > all, if you're comfortable at a command line you could probably just > run a split-brain DNS for yourself in your

Re: [homenet] On the TLD question and validatably-insecure delegation

On 18/11/2016 12:46, Michael Richardson wrote: > The claim has been, that this is a bug in our tools. Please elaborate. I don't always want to have to use an mDNS point-and-click "browser" to discover these services. Ray ___ homenet mailing list ho

Re: [homenet] On the TLD question and validatably-insecure delegation

On 18/11/2016 09:00, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Ted Lemon wrote: > > It has to be possible to type it. "hm.arpa" would be amusing. > > Why does it have to be typed? Because geeks might have to type it? > I typed it in my email by using copy and paste from a browser. I type in ".loca

[homenet] Administrivia

Advance volunteers for the roles of jabber relay and note taker for this afternoon would be much appreciated. thanks, Ray ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet

Re: [homenet] Update on RFC 7788 and .home

On 16/11/2016 09:53, Margaret Cullen wrote: > > What is the reasoning for using .homenet as the Homenet Domain, instead of > registering and using .home? > 1. we cannot be sure that using .home is consistent with the existing (ab)uses [e.g. BT in the UK already have about 5M CPE d

Re: [homenet] Update on RFC 7788 and .home

On 29/09/2016 23:27, Mark Townsley wrote: > For the latter, Pierre Pfister (and co-authors) will submit a document > over the next few weeks, also before the Seoul submission deadline. > Whilst this document may take longer to advance, Terry has agreed to > “cluster” the two documents such that

[homenet] Call for Agenda items

We have a 1h30 session scheduled after lunch on the Wednesday of the next IETF meeting. If you have any items to bring to the WG session that we're not already aware of, please email the Chairs with details before next Monday. thanks, Ray ___ homenet

[homenet] IETF 96 Session Minutes online

With thanks to Tim Wicinski, the session minutes from the IETF 96 Homenet WG session are now online at: Please send errors / omissions / missing names to the chairs not later than September 5th. Ray ___

Re: [homenet] RFC 7788 and ".home"

On 20/07/2016 18:32, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > Except, of course, that's precisely what we have with Bonjour: DNS for > everything except names ending in local. That label functions as a > protocol switch to tell your combined resolver which names to resolve > by mDNS and which ones to resolve b

Re: [homenet] RFC 7788 and ".home"

On 20/07/2016 13:33, Ray Bellis wrote: > My expectation is that in a Homenet multi-subnet environment I will be > able to just use http://./ and just have it work regardless > of which particular subnet that device is on [*]. There's a further corollary to this: since we can&

Re: [homenet] RFC 7788 and ".home"

On 20/07/2016 12:01, Ralph Droms wrote: > Without that definition, I don't think I know where and by whom the > label will actually be used. Will it turn out to be like .local, > which, as far as I know, is rarely used anywhere and only ever by a > certain class of expert user. I have three

Re: [homenet] More about lossy links and yo-yo neighbours

On 19/07/2016 01:17, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > I therefore cannot blame the chairs for forcing me to work with an > older version of my talk which didn't contain the explanation -- oh, > what the heck, yes, I can ;-) Please bear with me while I lecture a > little. The correct slides are availa

[homenet] Volunteers requested for Jabber scribe and note taker

If we could please have advanced volunteers for jabber scribe(s) and note taker for this afternoon's that would be much appreciated. thanks, Ray & Mark ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet

[homenet] RFC 7788 and ".home"

The Chairs have been asked to forward this to the WG on behalf of the IAB: --8<--8<-- The IAB discussed RFC 7788 and the appearance of the domain ".home" in the RFC. The IAB was happy to see that an appropriate erratum has been filed and approved, observing the problem with RFC 7788 and publishin

Re: [homenet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-homenet-hncp-bis-00.txt

On 08/07/2016 17:25, Ralph Droms wrote: > I took a quick look at draft-ietf-homenet-hncp-bis-00, including a > diff; seems the only change is to solve the .home problem. I don't > think I quite understand the new text and here's a suggested > clarification: > > OLD: > > A default value for thi

[homenet] Homenet WG session in Berlin - agenda / logistics

The Homenet WG session has been provisionally scheduled for 14:00h on Monday 18th July. Please send requests for session slots to the Chairs. We've only requested a 1h30 meeting slot this time, with the expectation that the Naming Architecture will again be the primary area for discussion. For t

Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis

On 17/06/2016 02:00, Andrew Sullivan wrote: > … it is not. We know both that (1) it is already in use in the wild > in undetermined ways and (2) that some people have spent a bunch of > money attempting to get it delegated to them in the global DNS. We > should not, IMO, even for a moment cons

Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis

On 16/06/2016 19:48, Ralph Droms wrote: > In my opinion, it is important for the exact requirements and > semantics for the default domain be defined, perhaps even before the > default domain itself is selected. It's not clear to me whether the > domain carried in the Domain-Name TLV can be a d

[homenet] RFC 7788-bis

As was alluded to in my email of 9th June, we have been asked to replace RFC 7788 (HNCP) with an RFC 7788-bis as soon as possible to incorporate the errata raised by the DNSOP chair regarding the unintended apparent reservation of ".home" as the default domain TLV within HNCP. We should also take

Re: [homenet] RFC 7788 and the IANA registry conflict

On 09/06/2016 18:35, Markus Stenberg wrote: > Is that RFC6something process for getting gTLDs still blocked by > ICANN or whoever who is simultaneously celebrating their 1000th $$$ > gTLD? It's RFC 6761, and the process is suspended (AIUI) by the IESG. The history and politics of that are uncl

Re: [homenet] RFC 7788 and the IANA registry conflict

On 09/06/2016 16:17, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > I've just fixed shncpd so that it interoperates with hnetd again (by > following the IANA registry). But what's to be done longer term? Do we > change the IANA registry again, or should somebody publish an erratum to > RFC 7788. To clarify for

Re: [homenet] Which IP addresses must be avoided?

On 18/05/2016 08:02, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > I have talked to operator colleagues and found several who use .0 and > .255 IPv4 adresses handed out to customers for Internet communication > without ill effects. > > So while this was a problem 10-20 years ago, I'd say it isn't now. I'm glad

Re: [homenet] Which IP addresses must be avoided?

On 17/05/2016 16:31, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > I just received a bug report for shncpd from somebody who noted that > shncpd's DHCPv4 server will happily assign addresses a.b.c.0 and a.b.c.255 > to clients. That's obviously broken. As others have pointed out, that's actually perfectly legal.

Re: [homenet] RFC 7788 on Home Networking Control Protocol

On 18/04/2016 17:29, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: > Congratulations to the authors!!! This was a long time coming. Yes, many, many congratulations! Ray ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet

[homenet] Draft WG session minutes

With many thanks to Tim Wicinski, the draft minutes of the Homenet WG session are now online at: If you have any corrections or additions, please email the Chairs by April 29th. Ray and Mark ___

[homenet] Note taker and jabber scribe volunteers requested

The Homenet WG is meeting at 14:00 AST tomorrow (Tuesday). It would be much appreciated if we could get volunteers to take notes and to relay to/from the jabber room (see RFC 7649) in advance of the session. thanks, Ray ___ homenet mailing list homene

Re: [homenet] Call for agenda items

> Dear WG, > > Please submit any requests for agenda time at the upcoming Buenos Aires > meeting to the chairs. The preliminary WG session agenda is due to be published Monday. That day is also the pre-meeting I-D submission cutoff. If there are any final requests for WG time please send them t

[homenet] Call for agenda items

Dear WG, Please submit any requests for agenda time at the upcoming Buenos Aires meeting to the chairs. With the routing discussion mostly out of the way, we've requested a single two hour session. We are expecting a document soon from Ted Lemon & co looking at the overall Homenet Naming & Servi

Re: [homenet] RFC 7695 on Distributed Prefix Assignment Algorithm

On 24/11/2015 16:17, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote: > A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. > > > RFC 7695 > > Title: Distributed Prefix Assignment Algorithm > Author: P. Pfister, B. Paterson, J. Arkko > Status:

[homenet] Homenet Naming and Service Discovery architecture

During the IETF 94 session the Homenet WG discussed the proposal that we should produce a detailed architecture document that puts together *all* of the Naming and Service Discovery components for Homenet as a coherent system. To that end I'd like to formally request volunteers to help put that do

[homenet] IETF 94 Session Minutes

The IETF 94 session notes (thanks Stuart!) are now online at: Please let the Chairs know (by December 14th at the latest) of any errors or suggested amendments. Ray ___ homenet mailing l

[homenet] WG session - jabber relay, note taker, slides

The Homenet WG is meeting at 09:00 local time tomorrow. Advance volunteers for the role of jabber relay and note taker would be much appreciated so we don't have to waste valuable f2f time cajoling people into it. If you are due to be presenting, please get your slides *in PDF format* to the Chai

[homenet] Routing Design Team outcome and next steps

The Internet Area AD and Routing Area AD engaged with the Homenet WG, in coordination with the Chair of the Routing Design Team assigned to Homenet, have concluded the Design Team and issue the following statement: --8<--8<-- Due to the evolving nature of Homenet a single clear and definitive re

[homenet] Fwd: [RFC State] has been added to the RFC Editor database

Congratulations to Pierre et al on getting this through the IESG! Ray Forwarded Message Subject: [RFC State] has been added to the RFC Editor database Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 09:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Author(s), We have received notice that your document draft-ietf-homenet-prefix-

Re: [homenet] hncpd home site?

On 08/09/2015 11:42, Dave Taht wrote: > wasn't there a website for hncpd and friends? homewrt.org? something > like that? can't find it with various google searches That's the correct domain name (linked to via Markus's Github) but the site appears to be down. Ray _

Re: [homenet] Host naming in Homenet

> On 1 Sep 2015, at 17:37, Steven Barth wrote: > > > That said I personally don't believe there should be any unconditional > publishing of internal names and service information to the outside / ISP. > > The external naming can of course leverage the internal one, but it shouldn't > proxy any

Re: [homenet] Host naming in Homenet

On 01/09/2015 17:20, Steven Barth wrote: > Please consider the following thoughts in no particular: > > > * In each "zone" collisions need to be handled gracefully. > ** Also: there can be legitimate reasons for having devices with the same > (per-link) name in different parts of your ne

Re: [homenet] Host naming in Homenet

On 01/09/2015 15:56, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: >> I am not very fond of idea of having to push anything to ISP for my >> _home_ network to work _within home_. > > Please, let's listen to this man. We've always stated from the outset that local naming services must continue to operate uninterrup

Re: [homenet] Host naming in Homenet

On 01/09/2015 01:06, Mark Andrews wrote: > > Why is topology being forced into the naming? DNS is independent > of topology. We have *a* home. I really don't care what link my > printer is connected too. It is not something I want to see in its > name unless I put it there. No-hat: I'm ver

[homenet] HNCP WGLC

Homenet WG, This is just a quick reminder that the WGLC on draft-ietf-homenet-hncp-08 is due to finish this Friday, 28th August. If you have any further comments please get them in ASAP. thanks, Ray and Mark. ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org

Re: [homenet] question: equal-cost multipath?

On 25/08/2015 19:38, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > So my previous opinion stands, I think the homenet routing protocol > should support ECMP on wired links that are between two directly > connected devices with identical link speeds. I'm fine to leave the > radio interface ECMP as a future research

Re: [homenet] question: equal-cost multipath?

On 12 Aug 2015, at 00:26, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > More precisely, Homenet must not *require* host modifications. Having > features that yield better behaviour or performance for modified hosts is > hopefully allowed -... yes, that's correct. ray P.s I'm on vacation now for two weeks with

Re: [homenet] [ieee-ietf-coord] Multicast on 802.11

Folks, please trim your cc: lists - you're exceeding the limit that Mailman permits and I don't intend to increase it (nor pass through any messages already blocked as a result). thanks, Ray ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.or

Re: [homenet] Moving forward.

On 10/08/2015 08:32, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: > Chairs - what do you think would happen if you called rough consensus on > babel based on the maturity of the running code? Is it even a practical > possibility for you to do so, or is that option out of your reach for as > long as the design team co

[homenet] IETF93 Draft Session Minutes

With thanks to Barbara Stark, the draft minutes of the IET93 Homenet WG session are now online at: Please let the Chairs have any necessary amendments by Monday September 7th at the latest. thanks, Ray ___

Re: [homenet] Despair

On 05/08/2015 12:44, Dave Taht wrote: > I would like to require the design team > > *to actually install the software*. Dave, We've heard you before, but with the best will in the world we cannot *require* IETF volunteers to put their own time and money into this. Heck, I can't even run the

Re: [homenet] Despair

Please, let's draw a line under this whole argument for now. The Design Team has been tasked with drawing up a brief requirements document as soon as possible and we will then try to get WG consensus on that. We need *constructive contributions* that will aid the Design Team. Anything else routin

Re: [homenet] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-homenet-dncp-05.txt

On 29/07/2015 15:18, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Ted, > As per RFC 7120 (section 3), the request only has to go through the > chairs and ADs - no IESG review required. Anyway, with all the > implementation activity, I believe we should move forward with the early > allocation process. We do

Re: [homenet] Moving forward.

On 26/07/2015 16:10, Ted Lemon wrote: Based on the experience with the DT, it’s clear that some of the points that are made in the homenet architecture document were not sufficiently clear. However, all of these points have been discussed by the working group over the past four years, and th

Re: [homenet] Revised agenda uploaded

On 16/07/2015 15:31, Ray Bellis wrote: > Our session is after lunch on Wednesday. If you are presenting please > get your slides to me by 08:00 that day at the latest. p.s. please send to me in PDF format, and ensure that slide numbers are visible. thanks

[homenet] WG note taker and jabber scribe

The Chairs would like to ask for advance volunteers for our session Wednesday afternoon to take notes of the meeting and relay comments from the jabber room. thanks, Ray ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ho

[homenet] Revised agenda uploaded

Our session is after lunch on Wednesday. If you are presenting please get your slides to me by 08:00 that day at the latest. thanks, Ray ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org https://w

Re: [homenet] RtgDir review: draft-ietf-homenet-dncp-07.txt

On 09/07/2015 16:28, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: >> It is very hard to find a wording for this that everyone agrees with. > > Yes. > >> For now it was changed to “DNCP is an abstract protocol, that must be >> combined with a specific profile to make a complete implementable >> protocol.” > > I'm

[homenet] Preliminary WG Session Agenda

The preliminary WG Session Agenda for IETF 93 in Prague is now online at Ray and Mark. ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet

[homenet] draft-ietf-homenet-hncp-06 now in WGLC

This email marks the commencement of a three-week Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-homenet-hncp. Please get any final comments in to the authors (cc: the WG) as soon as possible. thanks, Ray and Mark ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org htt

[homenet] REMINDER - Re: WG Last Call for draft-ietf-homenet-dncp-03

On 06/05/2015 16:21, Mark Townsley wrote: > Thank you for the recent reviews and update of draft-ietf-homenet-dncp. > Please take the next 3 weeks to make your final reviews. WG Last Call > will officially end on May 28. This is just a quick reminder to the WG that this WGLC ends in 9 days. Plea

Re: [homenet] homenet requirements on ISPs -- should write them down?

On 28/04/2015 02:02, Tim Chown wrote: > Something for the chairs to consider. None of the above should > prevent existing work continuing, but it may be useful to document > common understanding of what we’re trying to achieve. It sounds like a fine idea to me, but I shall need to discuss with

[homenet] Change of affiliation and email address

I'm leaving Nominet today to join ISC, so my old email address will stop working. My new email address for IETF-related stuff is ray+i...@bellis.me.uk. Mark and I can also be reached via the WG alias of homenet-cha...@tools.ietf.org Ray ___ homenet

Re: [homenet] ANNOUNCE: babeld-1.6.0

> On 15 Apr 2015, at 15:13, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > This was outside the homenet context. Let's please keep this outside the Homenet list, then. thanks, Ray ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homen

[homenet] IETF92 WG session draft minutes upload

The notes from the Dallas WG session (thanks Øle!) are now available at: https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/92/minutes/minutes-92-homenet Please let me know if you have any corrections not later than April 24th. thanks, Ray ___ homenet mailing list hom

Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HOMENET

> On 31 Mar 2015, at 17:07, Ted Lemon wrote: > > This is true, however that downref would have to get IETF consensus, which > could be a sticking point if there are a lot of people in the routing area > who believe that Babel is problematic for some reason. Thanks Ted - yes, that's much mor

Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HOMENET

> On 31 Mar 2015, at 16:35, Dave Taht wrote: > > I don't see any point in starting up a new working group[1] whatsoever > based on the events of the last ietf homenet meeting, particularly > with the arrival of a new written from-spec version of babel in under > 15 hours, (which I am still chort

[homenet] WG Secretary - request for volunteers

It has been strongly recommended to the Chairs that we appoint a WG Secretary to assist us in the administration of the Working Group. Details on the role and responsibilities of a WG Secretary can be found in RFC 2418 and draft-secretaries-good-practices-07 (work in progress). If you would lik

Re: [homenet] Selecting a routing protocol for HOMENET

On 26 Mar 2015, at 16:08, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > I also suggest that comments in this thread should consist of precise > proposed changes to the draft design team charter, not another run > round the whole discussion loop. Thank you Brian, that’s very well put. Ray

Re: [homenet] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-homenet-prefix-assignment-04.txt

On 23 Mar 2015, at 09:29, Pierre Pfister wrote: > Hello group, > > Thank you for all your comments during the last call. > > This revision includes some clarification/wording changes based on your > contributions. Thanks Pierre! :) Those of you who made comments during WGLC, please pay part

[homenet] WG Session administrivia

Advance volunteers for note taker(s) and jabber relays for tomorrow’s session would be very much appreciated. thanks, Ray ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet

[homenet] Draft agenda online

With apologies for the delay, the draft agenda for our session in Dallas is now online at: For your convenience I've included a list of all new and/or updated relevant drafts since the last meeting. However only a subset of those ar

[homenet] Reminder - WG Actions

Please note that there’s only just under a week left on the WGLC for draft-ietf-homenet-prefix-assignment-03. Reviews of that, and also for draft-ietf-homenet-dncp-01 and draft-ietf-homenet-hncp-04 would be much appreciated. Mark and I are running slightly behind on producing the agenda for the

Re: [homenet] Stub networks

> On 9 Mar 2015, at 20:37, Juliusz Chroboczek > wrote: > > It's 2017. There's an animated discussion on Stackoverflow about how to > install IS-IS on an ordinary PC in order to get it to interoperate with > Homenet. The question will get closed because it's off topic. If we've done our job p

[homenet] WG Actions

quot;In WG Last Call" from "WG Document" by Ray Bellis: > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-homenet-prefix-assignment/ As Mark previously suggested we've now also adopted draft-ietf-homenet-hybrid-proxy-zeroconf-00 as a WG item. We had hoped to start WGLC

Re: [homenet] a modest plugfest proposal

[catching up after a day off sick] > On 3 Mar 2015, at 02:09, Ted Lemon wrote: > > I think there is interest. I'm certainly interested. But plugfests and > working group meetings are two different things, and it's too close to the > meeting to plan a plugfest, because they require infrastr

[homenet] Draft submission deadline

Just a quick reminder to the WG that the submission cut-off date for Internet Drafts is two weeks today, at 23:59 UTC on March 9th. Ray ___ homenet mailing list homenet@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet

Re: [homenet] Implementations of IS-IS [was: Routing protocol comparison document]

> On 16 Feb 2015, at 12:44, Juliusz Chroboczek > wrote: > > If you know of any reasonably complete open source implementations of > IS-IS other than the Erlang implementation and the (alpha quality) Quagga > implementation, please let me know (perhaps by private mail), so I can > mention them i

[homenet] IETF 91 session minutes uploaded

ter: - The question is, are you inside the home, or do you feel like you are an uplink? I think that you want all the traffic to come to you to these prefixes. James Woodyatt: - Proposal 2 looks like it is harder to implement, but I will let other people get to the mike, Ray Bellis: - Y

[homenet] All WG materials uploaded

All of the slides for tomorrow’s WG session are now available at: The Tools agenda page at is out of sync but should catch up shortly. Ray ___

Re: [homenet] Slots request for presenting Homenet work at Anima session

> On 27 Oct 2014, at 22:57, "Brian E Carpenter" > wrote: > > FYI the status of the anima meeting in HNL will only be decided > at this weeks's IESG meeting and the chairs are not yet known, > so the agenda process is running late. As is ours, as I'm on vacation and Mark is away at a conferenc

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