Hi,
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:57:07PM -0700, Toerless Eckert wrote:
I don't know why Juliusz called stable storage bad.
I'd assume it has to do with flash write cycles on $30 routers...
Gert Doering
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have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
SpaceNet AG
I don't know why Juliusz called stable storage bad.
Ideology.
Soft state good, hard state bad. A network protocol should be able to
recover all the data it needs just by consulting its neighbours. If it
needs stable storage to function, then it's a failed design.
Yeah, I know, I'm a fanatic.
On 17.8.2015, at 9.57, Toerless Eckert eck...@cisco.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 09:41:24AM +0300, Markus Stenberg wrote:
Just like in some other old workplace, cough, ???if it does not work without
IPsec, do not expect it to work with it???.
Should i even try to understand that
authors.
BR,
Normen
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Von: Markus Stenberg [mailto:markus.stenb...@iki.fi]
Gesendet: Montag, 17. August 2015 10:11
An: Toerless Eckert
Cc: homenet@ietf.org; Juliusz Chroboczek
Betreff: Re: [homenet] HNCP: avoiding renumbering
On 17.8.2015, at 9.57, Toerless Eckert
On 17.8.2015, at 14.19, normen.kowalew...@telekom.de wrote:
Hi,
+1.
a) Any idea how often this data changes and really needs a re-write in “a
typical home ;-) ?
Not very often, at least if you don’t bother to prune ‘old’ stuff much (it
depends a bit, but most conservative setup would
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 01:01:04PM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
That may be desirable to limit churn, but must not be depended on. The
architecture is explicit on pp 25-26 that renumbering is an expected event:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7368#page-25
The addressing, routing and naming
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 09:41:24AM +0300, Markus Stenberg wrote:
Just like in some other old workplace, cough, ???if it does not work without
IPsec, do not expect it to work with it???.
Should i even try to understand that reference ? ;-)
I do not expect homenet stuff to do much better
On 17.8.2015, at 9.22, Toerless Eckert eck...@cisco.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 01:01:04PM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
That may be desirable to limit churn, but must not be depended on. The
architecture is explicit on pp 25-26 that renumbering is an expected event:
I think that Brian has summarized this renumbering avoidance as desirable
but nothing to be depended on
-éric
On 17/08/15 08:57, homenet on behalf of Toerless Eckert (eckert)
homenet-boun...@ietf.org on behalf of eck...@cisco.com wrote:
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 09:41:24AM +0300, Markus Stenberg
When an HNCP router is restarted, the prefixes it allocated to a link are
adopted by neighbouring routers; if the router then restarts, it will
agree to the prefixes advertised by its neighbours, which avoids
renumbering.
Unfortunately, this only applies to link with multiple HNCP routers: on
a
On 16.8.2015, at 14.40, Juliusz Chroboczek j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr
wrote:
When an HNCP router is restarted, the prefixes it allocated to a link are
adopted by neighbouring routers; if the router then restarts, it will
agree to the prefixes advertised by its neighbours, which avoids
which avoids renumbering.
Why do we care? Homenets need to be renumbering-proof anyway, because
the ISP might change the prefix anytime.
You're right, that deserves clarifying. We're trying really hard to make
sure that in no circumstances is running a Homenet router worse than
running an
On 17/08/2015 11:01, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
which avoids renumbering.
Why do we care? Homenets need to be renumbering-proof anyway, because
the ISP might change the prefix anytime.
You're right, that deserves clarifying. We're trying really hard to make
sure that in no circumstances
On 17/08/2015 11:01, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
which avoids renumbering.
Why do we care? Homenets need to be renumbering-proof anyway, because
the ISP might change the prefix anytime.
You're right, that deserves clarifying. We're trying really hard to make
sure that in no circumstances
n 17/08/2015 01:01, Markus Stenberg wrote:
On 16.8.2015, at 14.40, Juliusz Chroboczek j...@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr
wrote:
When an HNCP router is restarted, the prefixes it allocated to a link are
adopted by neighbouring routers; if the router then restarts, it will
agree to the prefixes
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