Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-12-06 Thread Guillaume Habault
2011/12/2 Brian E Carpenter > > How will this help with failover in multihomed sites? It guarantees > that the packet will be sent towards the failed path, I think. > > You are right! We were thinking that in case of a failover the host would have to detect it and not choose the source address li

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-12-04 Thread Michael Richardson
Guillaume Habault sends the draft draft-habault-gallet-homenet-sdsa-00: > The construction and >maintenance of such tables is time-consuming and all routes to site >destinations are duplicate on each table. Really? I agree that it increases the number of

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-12-03 Thread Teco Boot
Op 2 dec. 2011, om 23:03 heeft Brian E Carpenter het volgende geschreven: > Guillaume, > >> It checks the destination address and compares to all known routes >> (except the default route). If the destination address matches an >> entry, the packet is sent to the next hop and the algorithm ends.

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-12-02 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Guillaume, > It checks the destination address and compares to all known routes > (except the default route). If the destination address matches an > entry, the packet is sent to the next hop and the algorithm ends. If > not, the source address is checked and compared to the list of > delegated pr

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-12-02 Thread Guillaume Habault
I've attached a draft made from some research that had been performed here to solve the ingress filtering issue in IPv6 multihomed network. That may be interesting for homenet WG. 2011/11/18 Michael Richardson > > > "Guillaume" == Guillaume Habault > writes: > Guillaume> If so, do you

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-20 Thread Michael Richardson
> "Teco" == Teco Boot writes: >> If the two links are not on the same link, then the problem we >> have is finding the right router that can send the traffic out. >> >> We only have to do this for traffic originating on the local link >> from hosts on that local link. We

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-18 Thread Teco Boot
Op 18 nov. 2011, om 19:45 heeft Michael Richardson het volgende geschreven: > >> "Guillaume" == Guillaume Habault writes: >Guillaume> If so, do you planned to have tunnels between home >Guillaume> gateways ? Are we sure that ISPs behind the home gateway >Guillaume> will accept t

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-18 Thread Michael Richardson
> "Guillaume" == Guillaume Habault writes: Guillaume> If so, do you planned to have tunnels between home Guillaume> gateways ? Are we sure that ISPs behind the home gateway Guillaume> will accept to cooperate with each other (I said that Guillaume> because in France, home gate

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-18 Thread Teco Boot
Op 18 nov. 2011, om 11:49 heeft Guillaume Habault het volgende geschreven: > > > 2011/11/16 Michael Richardson > > > "Guillaume" == Guillaume Habault writes: >Guillaume> the host select the appropriate address, the routing >Guillaume> protocol may route the message to the wrong C

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-18 Thread Guillaume Habault
2011/11/16 Michael Richardson > > > "Guillaume" == Guillaume Habault > writes: >Guillaume> the host select the appropriate address, the routing > Guillaume> protocol may route the message to the wrong Customer Edge >Guillaume> Router (especially if we are in the case where there

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-16 Thread Michael Richardson
> "Guillaume" == Guillaume Habault writes: Guillaume> the host select the appropriate address, the routing Guillaume> protocol may route the message to the wrong Customer Edge Guillaume> Router (especially if we are in the case where there is Guillaume> more than one Customer

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-16 Thread Guillaume Habault
2011/11/15 Michael Richardson > > > "Guillaume" == Guillaume Habault > writes: >Guillaume> the host select the appropriate address, the routing >Guillaume> protocol may route the >Guillaume> message to the wrong Customer Edge Router (especially if >Guillaume> we are in the ca

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-14 Thread Michael Richardson
> "Joel" == Joel M Halpern writes: Joel> On the one hand, earlier discussion emphasized that we need to Joel> use protocols Joel> and implementations that are well tested, robust, and simple Joel> to use. Joel> On the other hand, we have an expectation that these same

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-14 Thread Michael Richardson
Pascal Thubert (pthubert) wrote: >> Michael: >> >> If you want your PAN network to be reachable from the rest of the world, >> you still need some mobility solution. >> >> For instance you could use NEMO. Get a PAN delegated from your home >> network and then mov

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-14 Thread Joel M. Halpern
Maybe I am missing something basic, but there seems to be a bit of a disconnect on our assumption about what we need to have in in-home rotuers. On the one hand, earlier discussion emphasized that we need to use protocols and implementations that are well tested, robust, and simple to use. On

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-14 Thread Michael Richardson
> "Guillaume" == Guillaume Habault writes: Guillaume> the host select the appropriate address, the routing Guillaume> protocol may route the Guillaume> message to the wrong Customer Edge Router (especially if Guillaume> we are in the case Guillaume> where there is more t

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-14 Thread Guillaume Habault
tting ripe. > > Cheers, > > Pascal > > -Original Message- > From: homenet-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:homenet-boun...@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of Michael Richardson > Sent: lundi 7 novembre 2011 16:40 > To: homenet@ietf.org Group > Subject: Re: [homenet] more

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-09 Thread Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
ascal -Original Message- From: homenet-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:homenet-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Michael Richardson Sent: lundi 7 novembre 2011 16:40 To: homenet@ietf.org Group Subject: Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment >>>>> "Ja

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-07 Thread Howard, Lee
> -Original Message- > From: Jari Arkko [mailto:jari.ar...@piuha.net] > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 2:43 PM > To: Howard, Lee > Cc: homenet@ietf.org Group > Subject: Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment > > Lee, > >

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-07 Thread Michael Richardson
> "Jari" == Jari Arkko writes: Jari> It was simply outside the scope because I think the mechanisms Jari> of distributing prefixes around are separable from the Jari> question of what prefix types are used. Jari> I was thinking that we need another document on the use of

Re: [homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-05 Thread Jari Arkko
Lee, Thanks for your feedback and questions. Some answers inline: This requirement requires justification: o The assignments must be stable across reboots, power cycling, router software updates, and preferably, should be stable across simple network changes such as adding a ne

[homenet] more comments on draft-arkko-homenet-prefix-assignment

2011-11-04 Thread Howard, Lee
This requirement requires justification: o The assignments must be stable across reboots, power cycling, router software updates, and preferably, should be stable across simple network changes such as adding a new device on the stub network segments. *Why* is that an RFC2119 M