A Cabbage Patch:
Bill F is having a problem
>Hello. I am having a problem with the valves of my new
>Holton 281. They are stiff when I get the horn out of the
>case to play the valves are stiff and slow.
Jim suggested
I agree with getting a good horn person to go through the valves ...
My son studies with Virginia at West Virginia University. Her e-mail is:
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CORdially,
Luke Zyla
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From: "Paul Mansur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:43 PM
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At 03:02 PM 9/4/03 -0400, you wrote:
Don't knock the 6D. Put on a smaller leadpipe and play it with a large, bowl
shaped mouthpiece (e.g., Schilke 31B). The 6D was designed by James
Stagliano, and used in the Boston Symphony. Matches well with old Kruspe and
Alexander. Elkhart 6Ds are a steal.
Hornfolk, the thread discussing oils, lubricants,etc. brought back
memories,going way back in the last century, to my first horn teacher..a
member of the Detroit Symphony. The weird thing is that I cannot think of
him without the recollection being accompanied by an odor! Unusual, I
guess, but i
My, my. The Hornlist keeps turning up old (really old!) friends. Does anyone know if
Dick Van Sice is still around, and if so how to get in touch with him? He played in
the horn section that I headed at the 544th-545th Air Force Band, at Sampson Air Force
Base in upstate New York, in the 1950s.
The DIY valve oil formula that I remember a competent repairman in Newport,
RI used was kerosene and sweet oil. I think I've seen sweet oil in drug
stores, probably in the baby section. Odorless kerosene is readily available for
hurricane lamps, but they're probably sold out in Florida.
He ma
Home Brew Valve Oil - Secret Recipe
1 Gallon Clear High Grade Kerosene + 1 Pint Light Machine Oil
Blend well.
Apply liberally.
(Smells like kerosene, but so what? Like napalm, it smells like victory.)
-- Alan Cole, rank amateur
McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
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This is a problem with Holton 281 valves. You may need to have a repair
person lap the valves. I have found that these valves are much less likely
to stick after sitting unused for awhile if you use Blue Juice or Hetman #1
lubricant. Under no circumstances should you use Al Cass on these valves;
Kerosene works wonders...my teacher use to use it.It evaporates
and cleans everything..kind of like al cass..there are so many good
things about it but the bad kind of outweighs that so no one really uses it
more..if I'm not mistaken?
Thanks,
Josh Johnson
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Kerosene mix is great for valves and inside of horn; all-purpose except
for slide grease. I still know folk who use it daily. And sometimes I
use it almost daily. (but then, I don't play daily, any more.)
Mansur's Answers
On Friday, September 5, 2003, at 01:34 PM, Alan Cole wrote:
Home B
For my oiling needs I have 4 small bottles with 'eye drop' applicators - the
bottles contain the following -
1) straight sewing machine oil (a low odor, clear, light machine oil).
2) straight Ultra-Pure Lamp oil (a low odor, clear, kerosene, which also has
reasonable 'oiling characteristics' -
For old valves I've found my son's Slide o Mix works wonders. Has anyone
used the modern Teflon filled lubes (EZ flow, etc.)?
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If so I'm looking for info. on your "Pizka Classic horn". Please email me
some more info. as I'm very curious about your horns. What are some of the
dimensions compared to say a Carl Geyer horn? Pretty much any info. you have on
your horns would be absolutely fantastic.
Thanks,
Hoss
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