> For those less informed
I've been called worse
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> ...the problem of bends in an instrument has two aspects
> One is simply air flow, which will respond to straightening
> curves the same way unkinking a hose will
I've heard that applied to horns, but I have to wonder. With the main tubing
b
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> subject: [Hornlist] RE: Missouri All State Audition Pieces
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> William F is preparing to audition in M
Leonard, Cabbage et al,
I would suggest that the person go to the "other" horn list with his
question. Obviously this is important to him, and while I know that there
was no malicious intent by any party nor an intent to be unkind, he was
reaching out and was met with ridicule.
Put yourself in
subject: [Hornlist] RE: Missouri All State Audition Pieces
William F is preparing to audition in Missouri.
Pottag-Hovey p.31 #128
Kopprasch- 60 Selected Studies p. 6 #8 and pgs. 20-21 #30
Preparatory Melodies to p.22 #56
If anyone has any suggestions regarding tempo, phrasing, dynamics, or
anyth
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004, at 05:17 PM, Paul Mansur wrote:
Easter IL U at Charleston, IL
Oops! Sorry. that's Eastern IL U.
P Mansur
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Hi Steve - if you can email a couple of pictures of them I can probably identify them,
especially the Yamaha. Its a quirky ability/fascination with horn design that I have
that has taken the form of my identifying brands/models of horns seen on televised
symphony performances. My parents got
As I understand it, "Geyer style" means the 4th valve (the actual rotor,
not the thumb lever) is down by your left pinky finger when you're holding
the horn in playing position.
"Normal" configuration (also sometimes referred to as "Kruspe style") means
the 4th valve rotor is up by your left th
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004, at 01:51 PM, Leonard & Peggy Brown wrote:
Did he teach near Chicago?
He hosted a couple of IHS workshops at Easter IL U at Charleston, IL
Yes, he was the horn teacher there.
Paul Mansur
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I checked Conn's web site - I have a 6D.
Would anyone care to explain to me, in terms a novice can understand, what
the difference is between a "normal" and a "Geyer" style of horn?
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At 03:01 PM 10/26/04 -0400, Steve Freides wrote:
>Very good! I seem to have Conn 6D
The 6D is radically different from the 8D. Shop online or visit the
manufacturer's website (Conn/Selmer/Steinway/Fender/UMI...). A picture is
worth thousand words.
John Kowalchuk maker of mutes/horns/canoe
"Most of the Conn horns that I've seen have the model number die-stamped
into the outside of the mouthpiece receiver -- e.g., 8D, 6D, 4D, etc." A.C.
That was true enough for Elkhart Conns, but they model numbers were not
die-stamped on Abilene Conns (at least all of the examples that I have
seen.
Here are a couple of websites that will help with identification of a Yamaha
or a Conn. The different Conn models (6d vs 8d) are easily identified
visually. The Yamaha is perhaps slightly less so as there are several Geyer
types and several Kruspe types.
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/Catal
My experience is that Yamaha horns are usually stamped in two places. The
model number is stamped on the leadpipe (mouthpipe)---YHR668, for example,
denotes a Yamaha model 668. The model number and the serial can often be
found stamped on the bottom of the bar that supports the valve
levers---YHR66
Very good! I seem to have Conn 6D (hard to tell if it's a 6 or an 8 but,
from what I read here, I don't think many school districts use the 8). I'll
check out the other horn when my son brings it home later today.
-S-
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Most of the Conn horns that I've seen have the model number die-stamped
into the outside of the mouthpiece receiver -- e.g., 8D, 6D, 4D, etc.
-- Alan Cole, rank amateur
McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
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At 02:37 PM 10/26/2004, you wrote:
We have two horns in the
We have two horns in the house, an old, beaten-up Conn from a local public
school district that's on loan to us and a fairly nice Yamaha. On the bell,
I see the manufacturer but no indication of model number - this goes for
both horns.
How can I tell what I've got? Is there a standard location o
"Just Put Your Lips Together And Blow"
I loved my time at Oberlin - and have since come to the conclusion that
people who go there either love it, or transfer! You won't find many
in-between views. It's a wonderfully liberal place that forces you to
think, and you'll get out of it what ever
Regarding this horn, it was also rumored that the manufacturing boys in Texas got a
little confused...they had heard about the Long Call and thought a Long Horn would be
more suited to this music. Problem is, when playing Wagner on the Texas Long Horn it
always comes out sounding like Ferde Gr
How old is Burt and did he drive a big caddy back in the 70s? I think I met
him once under very strange cirumstances. Did he teach near Chicago?
Regards,
Leonard // Laredo
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Bill B sent us the following message
Oddball ebay horn
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Here's the decoded version of Bill's message
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As an engineer, I appreciate that for acoustic waves turning corners, making
curves 'gentle' is mostly a result of relying on intuition rather than
understanding physics. Is this common knowledge among those who apply
modern technol
William F is preparing to audition in Missouri.
Pottag-Hovey p.31 #128
Kopprasch- 60 Selected Studies p. 6 #8 and pgs. 20-21 #30
Preparatory Melodies to p.22 #56
If anyone has any suggestions regarding tempo, phrasing, dynamics, or
anything at all I would very much appreciate hearing them.
*
>Another stunning contribution from Bill B... (what am
I
>missing??)
Who knows? Bill's post's are gibberish when they show
up in my mailbox, too.
Perhaps Bill is averse to plain text.
--John
=
J Mason
Charlottesville, Virginia
>>New! Democracy of Speed, a Photo Documentary Project:
http:
On Oct 26, 2004, at 11:46 AM, Corenut wrote:
Another stunning contribution from Bill B... (what am I missing??)
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dXJuaW5nIGNvcm5lcnMsIG1ha2luZyBjdXJ2ZXMgJ2dlbnRsZScgaXMgbW9zdGx5IGEgcmV
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It's the sound of a square "French" horn. -AC.
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At 12:46 PM 10/26/2004, you wrote:
Another stunning contribution from Bill B... (what am I missing??)
Paul
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Which is very good news indeed. Thanks for the info,
John. And the address.
--John in C-ville
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J Mason
Charlottesville, Virginia
>>New! Democracy of Speed, a Photo Documentary Project:
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~ds8s/john-m/john-m.html
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Now that these acoustical-physical phenomena are better understood, I
suppose it can only be a matter of time before innovative square "French"
horns show up on eBay along side all those conventional round ones.
-- Alan Cole, rank amateur
McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
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Another stunning contribution from Bill B... (what am I missing??)
Paul
UK
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As an engineer, I appreciate that for acoustic waves turning corners, making curves
'gentle' is mostly a result of relying on intuition rather than understanding physics.
Is this common knowledge among those who apply modern technology to instrument
design? You are the first respectable horn d
In a message dated 10/25/2004 11:54:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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How about Oberlin (has a liberal arts college attached), and
Northwestern?
Caution! The following is a shameless, blatant plug for alma mater:
I have been extremely impressed with the strides made at Nort
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