Re: [Hornlist] Lip Trills

2005-04-29 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 7:53 PM -0500 4/29/05, Karl Feinauer wrote: >Any advice on how to get back in the trill scene and maintain them so that >I don't have to build them up again if I don't use them for a month or so? My daily trill exercise is the first line of Kopprasch #5, starting in A basso going up to Bb alt

[Hornlist] Lip Trills

2005-04-29 Thread Karl Feinauer
I had learned how to produce a good lip trill on the horn on from a 1st line E up to an F-G trill on top of the staff, and I guess I didn't maintain it, as I can practically no longer trill at all. Any advice on how to get back in the trill scene and maintain them so that I don't have to build them

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Holton Farkas Models

2005-04-29 Thread Billbamberg
My son has a 500 year old antique hammer. It's had 16 head changes and 20 new handles, and it improves with age. I bought an old Cronlein horn on eBay that showed up with a very recent valve job and the same Lawson pipe. The original Cronlein pipe worked better, so I put the Lawson on my Wife

Re: [Hornlist] Warning Read at Your Own Risk

2005-04-29 Thread LOTP
- Original Message - From: "Bill Gross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Horn List'" Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 5:50 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Warning Read at Your Own Risk > This weekend I'm off to hear my favorite Viennese Opera. I'm sure you're > all familiar with it. It's about a smal

[Hornlist] Warning Read at Your Own Risk

2005-04-29 Thread Bill Gross
This weekend I'm off to hear my favorite Viennese Opera. I'm sure you're all familiar with it. It's about a small rodent that roams the city biting pneumatic tires on cars and bicycles. It's call DEFLATOR MOUSE. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu uns

[Hornlist] Mystery Solved.

2005-04-29 Thread matthew scheffelman
Thanks KlausThat is great news!!! Matthew Scheffelman Horn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu uns

Re: [Hornlist] RE: Kruspe/Holton (was Holton's German Design Team)

2005-04-29 Thread Paul Mansur
On Friday, April 29, 2005, at 02:52 PM, "" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: message: 3 date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:07:20 -0600 from: "Steven Ovitsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject: RE: [Hornlist] Kruspe/Holton (was Holton's German Design team) Jay Sewell wrote: As best as I can measure with

[Hornlist] Re: slow air

2005-04-29 Thread MUMFORDHornworks
My point was, that it's not the air traveling through the horn that makes the sound, rather setting up a resonance of the air column within the horn. Excessive air speed can actually interfere with that resonance, the sound wave has to travel forth AND back. It is actually possible to play

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Holton Farkas Models

2005-04-29 Thread p_mansur1
Phil had gone to Indiana and ended his tenure with the CSO when the Farkas line of horns began coming forth. I saw Phil at a large number of the IHS symposia and on a number of other occasions over a period of about 20 years. He always was carrying one or two of the Holton horns with him and p

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Holton Farkas Models

2005-04-29 Thread Robert Osmun
Hi Bill, I used to own an H178 and, with a valve rebuild, Lawson .020 nickel silver flare, and FB210.125 mouthpipe, it was one of the most satisfying horns I ever owned. Lovely sound, good pitch, and capable of as much noise as I ever needed to make. Naturally, I decided to change it to a wide bel

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Kruspe/Holton - Bingo!

2005-04-29 Thread Richard V. West
Steve: BINGO! The DRGM number engraved on my horn is 1027194! Thanks for the information and confirmation. Richard in Seattle - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:48 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Kruspe/Holton

[Hornlist] RE: Kruspe/Holton (was Holton's German Design Team)

2005-04-29 Thread
> message: 3 > date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:07:20 -0600 > from: "Steven Ovitsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > subject: RE: [Hornlist] Kruspe/Holton (was Holton's German Design > team) > > Jay Sewell wrote: > As best as I can measure with my calipers, it has a > .472" bore (i.e. "large" bore,

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Holton Farkas Models

2005-04-29 Thread Billbamberg
Over the years, my experience with Holton has never been as an owner, but I have played a lot of them. The first I remember playing was the original brass model 77, and It compared favorably with Kruspes and Alexanders prevalent in Boston at the time. Since then, there have been a string a Far

Re: [Hornlist] Mystery Mouthpiece?

2005-04-29 Thread Klaus Bjerre
> From: matthew scheffelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I have a mouthpiece with only few markings and was > wondering if anyone would know the maker/history. It > may be quite a Mystery. > > The markings are; PT-04G > > Not to lead one on the wrong brain train, it looks > JUST a little like a Mira

[Hornlist] Re: Kruspe/Holton

2005-04-29 Thread MUMFORDHornworks
Thanks to Jay Sewell for the great pics of his New Symphony model Kruspe. The horn I saw was listed in that 1930 catalog: http://www.geocities.co.jp/MusicHall-Horn/2569/kruspe/krusp.html as the "Modell Horner, Philadelphia" The one pictured is different from some of the other Horner models t

[Hornlist] Mystery Mouthpiece?

2005-04-29 Thread matthew scheffelman
Whats up everyone I have a mouthpiece with only few markings and was wondering if anyone would know the maker/history. It may be quite a Mystery. The markings are; PT-04G Not to lead one on the wrong brain train, it looks JUST a little like a Mirafone Decker model on the OUTSIDE (as you m

RE: [Hornlist] Holton's German Design team

2005-04-29 Thread Bill Gross
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Ray Crenshaw Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:02 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Holton's German Design team [. . .] Anywhoo, I know why the tubing is oval in the bends, but I wonder

[Hornlist] Holton's German Design team

2005-04-29 Thread James Ray Crenshaw
> As best as I can measure with my calipers, it > has a .472" bore (i.e. "large" bore, a la 8D) AFAI can measure, both the Conn 8D and Holton H179 "Farkas" have .468" in the straight tubing section. Your .472 measurement is so close to 12mm that I'd guess that was what was intended. Aren't Alexand

[Hornlist] Re: Holton Farkas Models

2005-04-29 Thread KendallBetts
Phil Farkas told me that the first design at Holton on which he collaborated was to copy his Geyer. They then decided to go with the then more popular Kruspe/Conn 8D wrap and did so with the tapers taken from the Geyer and the wrap taken from the "Berv" Kruspe wrap (postwar horns with shortene

RE: [Hornlist] Re: slow air

2005-04-29 Thread hans
But not blowing more air through the horn !!! Just releasing more air or less air. If forte is requested, get the air a bit precompressed inside the body, so it escapes with more tension & speed. -Or

[Hornlist] Kruspe/Holton

2005-04-29 Thread Leonard Brown
Jay writes >>Leonard, I'm not at all familiar with the Holton horn in question, but I can shed a bit of light concerning the Kruspe "New Symphony" model. I bought this one as a basket case and had it restored. See link below. It is definitely made of yellow brass, and somewhat resembles the Con

RE: [Hornlist] Kruspe/Holton (was Holton's German Design team)

2005-04-29 Thread Steven Ovitsky
Jay Sewell wrote: As best as I can measure with my calipers, it has a .472" bore (i.e. "large" bore, a la 8D).. - The 8D has always had a bore of .468" (11.89mm). Cheers, Steven Ovitsky ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscri

RE: [Hornlist] Re: slow air

2005-04-29 Thread Bill Gross
It might be instructive to hear from those who understand the science of music and the horn to explain the difference between the volume of air moved through the horn and the velocity, how they are related and what each contributes to the music a horn produces. ___

Re: [Hornlist] Re: slow air

2005-04-29 Thread Alan Cole
It's not just the speed of the bow but how lightly or heavily the bow presses against the string as the horsehair rubs the catgut. As my old horn teacher used to say, "The motion of the air into the horn is like the movement of the violinist's bow across the strings. More air!" His short versi

[Hornlist] Re: slow air

2005-04-29 Thread Daniel Canarutto
Steve Mumford: Don't forget, we put air into the horn at what? maybe 30 miles an hour let's say, but the sound goes through the horn at something like 700 miles an hour. It's not the air that's making the sound. With a little practice, you can play by sucking in instead of blowing out (who needs

Re: [Hornlist] Kruspe/Holton

2005-04-29 Thread Richard V. West
Jay: Thanks for the interesting information. I, too, have a Kruspe "New Symphony" model, identical in layout to yours, but in nickel-silver. It was purchased in 1961 in Stuttgart from a retiring hornplayer through the good offices of Otto Stoesser. The bore is large, as you stated, but I always