RE: [Hornlist] Water key

2005-10-16 Thread Hans
Alon, on which 3rd slide ? On the 3rd slide for the Bb or for the F Horn do you want the water key ? These tube are cylindrical and also is the lead pipe at the point where the water key will be applied. There is nothing special designed there. The tubes are provided industry material anyway. If

[Hornlist] Looking for recording or performance dates

2005-10-16 Thread Peter Hirsch
I am currently doing a bit of rummaging around for recording dates of a motley assortment of horn recordings that I have which are part of a (not so) little project that I have been putting together for some time now. Most of them have release dates on them and I will be doing my own discograph

[Hornlist] CSO: Mahler 5 Concert

2005-10-16 Thread Tokidoleg
The Chicago Symphony Orchestra performed Mahler 5 all this weekend. I was able to attend the concert on Saturday and it was the best concert I have witnessed. The orchestra used 7 horns and Dale Clevenger's wife played assistant. The entire orchestra was incredible. Everything lined up cor

[Hornlist] Re: What the heck is it? / Buescher Horns

2005-10-16 Thread Jay Kosta
I don't think the "Conn-Queror" (as shown @ http://www.cornetconnection.com/connqueror.htm ) really has compensation. If you look closely you'll see that there aren't any air passage-ways directly between the valve casings to allow a direct 'no valve' flow of air. The external loop from 1st to 3r

Re: [Hornlist] Water key

2005-10-16 Thread Alan Cole
The accumulation, while playing, of undrained water at the low spots in the tubing generates turbulence that's arguably worse than whatever turbulence-causing effects there might be from installing a water key. So if you're hankering for a water key on your horn, go for it. -- Alan Cole, rank

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Buescher horns

2005-10-16 Thread Weshatch
In a message dated 10/16/2005 3:14:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think only King actually made their own rotary valves up until Conn also started making their own in the 30s. I`m not sure who the first US manufacturer was to make their own valves, but I thi

Re: [Hornlist] Youth Orchestra horn sectional ideas

2005-10-16 Thread Shane McLaughlin
One of my teachers in college had a really useful exercise. You sit the 4 players all facing toward each other in a square so no one can see anyone else's music. The teacher makes a score of 4 part chords, all whole notes. The parts are numbered 1-4, but 1 is not always the highest and 4 is not

[Hornlist] Re: what the heck is it?

2005-10-16 Thread Hurricane Chinooks
I've never seen a Buescher model like this, but I do own a Conn Conn-Queror that also has added tubing between the first and third valves. On the Conn, the tube you see going from the first valve to the third valve acts as a compensator. I don't know for sure, but I would assume that they are bui

[Hornlist] Water key

2005-10-16 Thread Alon reuven
Dear all I have been thinking of installing a water key in my mouth pipe and my 3rd finger slide . The thing is - each and every horn maker describes endlessly how every tube is carefully designed in a way it won't make any turbulence . On the other hand ,water keys do appear in horn design .How co

[Hornlist] Re: Buescher horns

2005-10-16 Thread MUMFORDHornworks
In a message dated 10/16/05 1:00:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Bill writes: > Buescher double horns are very interesting, but little known. I believe > the early ones were stencils made by Alexander They actually only used valves from Germany, not quite identical ones to the early 103s. E

Re: [Hornlist] What The Heck Is It ?

2005-10-16 Thread Herbert Foster
How is this so? The extra length of tube is always in the air path and won't afftect the pitch more than having a longer 3rd valve slide would. 3 valve compensating instruments have extra loops on the 1st & 2nd valves. Herb Foster --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ... > I'm guessing this was an > e