Re: [Hornlist] Re: Signs of leaky che ckbook? 

2006-01-08 Thread CORNO911
In a message dated 1/9/06 12:20:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I have saved many clients the necessity of having their valves replated > using > this method and it (again, if done correctly), works very well. > > I would like to add to this post that this process is not one of just shri

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Signs of leaky che ckbook? 

2006-01-08 Thread CORNO911
In a message dated 1/8/06 6:20:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Several posters to this list have claimed that you can improve the air seal > of a horn by removing the end play, causing the valve to seat lower in the > casing. Because the valves are tapered, seating the rotor lower will cause

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Signs of leaky checkbook?

2006-01-08 Thread Weshatch
Just before I began working at Holton , an experiment was done with Louis Stout. Louis Stout was as respected as Phil Farkas by Holton. Horns were air tested in the testing room on a manometer. If the air test was below a certain level, the rotors were taken out and plated and refit.Managem

Re: [Hornlist] Why do valves leak?

2006-01-08 Thread Weshatch
In a message dated 1/8/2006 9:40:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I try to convince my students NOT to buy Al Cass oil as I read the comments by Wes Hatch that Al Cass will gum up Holton Valves. I`m not sure that that is what I meant. Oil formulated for piston valv

Re: [Hornlist] Why do valves leak?

2006-01-08 Thread Walter E. Lewis
I have to say, this has been one very interesting thread to read! Steve, any recommendations on brands of Valve oil? I try to convince my students NOT to buy Al Cass oil as I read the comments by Wes Hatch that Al Cass will gum up Holton Valves. Since I am one of the people on this list that (

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Signs of leaky checkbook?

2006-01-08 Thread BrassArtsUnlim
List, Just for the record, my previous comments about removing bearing play from valves was in no way intended to imply that one should substitute this fix for a plate and fit valve job. Apparently some felt that I was also implying that a valve job is somehow a scam. Nothing can be further

[Hornlist] Why do valves leak?

2006-01-08 Thread MUMFORDHornworks
I guess there are three people that can make good valves go bad. The manufacturer, the player and the repair tech. I still see many brand new horns that have all kinds of manufacturing grit left inside the valves and the rest of the horn. Our local school system just bought a bunch o

[Hornlist] spamming from hornplayer.net

2006-01-08 Thread Mark Syslo
I've been off the list for about two weeks while on vacation. During that time, I've gotten two messages requesting lessons; must have got info on me from hornplayer.net. One from a someone wanting to pay by "cheque", and another with a yahoo.co.uk email address. Tis the season? MJS __

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Signs of leaky checkbook?

2006-01-08 Thread Robert Osmun
Several posters to this list have claimed that you can improve the air seal of a horn by removing the end play, causing the valve to seat lower in the casing. Because the valves are tapered, seating the rotor lower will cause the side wall to move closer to the casing. That's the theory. I measure

RE: [Hornlist] Signs of leaky valves?

2006-01-08 Thread Robert Osmun
Hi Paul, As usual, your points are good ones. At the risk of ignoring Mark Twains dictum: "Never miss achance to keep your mouth shut." I have a couple of futher comments to add- > Hi Bob, > Thanks for your comments to my post. > > I wanted to respond to your additional comments to my post. >

[Hornlist] Re: signs of leaky valves

2006-01-08 Thread Tom Fisher
This thread has been very interesting - I am full of appreciation for the detailed insights provided by real experts. It leads me to conclude that leaky valves come about from a combination of corrosion and mechanical wear. Corrosion from acidic stuff spat into the horn presumably affects the rot

[Hornlist] Teachers on hornplayer.net please read!!!

2006-01-08 Thread Joshua Cheuvront
Hi all, Just wanted everyone to know that the scammers are active again, using hornplayer.net to get teachers' email addresses. I've received three emails in the past week from different addresses asking me if I would teach them or their children french horn lessons for a few weeks. They all

RE: [Hornlist] Reicha Trios

2006-01-08 Thread David B. Thompson
Carl Brower wrote: >I am looking for a complete set of the 24 trios by Antonin Reicha >op. 82, and have not had much luck in my internet search. Can >anyone point me in the right direction? That is an Ostermeyer edition, and we would be happy to supply that for you if you like. Please feel free

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Han Hoyer 5802K

2006-01-08 Thread Pandolfi, Orlando
That would be the single Bb model already in production. You do however have to FORCE the high notes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kjellrun Hestekin Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 3:50 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re: H

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Han Hoyer 5802K

2006-01-08 Thread Kjellrun Hestekin
And would their top model be the "Han Solo"?? (Sorry, it's been a long weekend in recording sessions!!) Kjellrun If the Chinese instrument makers decide to copy this horn (and no doubt they will!) Han Hoyer would be a very good pseudonym to use. And perhaps the Chinese horn could be endorsed

Re: [Hornlist] Reicha Trios

2006-01-08 Thread Michiel van der Linden
Here they are, all 24 of them, http://icking-music-archive.org/ByComposer/Reicha.html Michiel van der Linden, Bruges, Belgium Carl Brower schreef: Hello all, I am looking for a complete set of the 24 trios by Antonin Reicha op. 82, and have not had much luck in my internet search. Can an

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Han Hoyer 5802K

2006-01-08 Thread Pandolfi, Orlando
If the Chinese instrument makers decide to copy this horn (and no doubt they will!) Han Hoyer would be a very good pseudonym to use. And perhaps the Chinese horn could be endorsed by Han Pizka...what do you think, Prof.? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

[Hornlist] Reicha Trios

2006-01-08 Thread Carl Brower
Hello all, I am looking for a complete set of the 24 trios by Antonin Reicha op. 82, and have not had much luck in my internet search. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks so much for your help, Carl in TX ___ post: horn@music.mem

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Han Hoyer 5802K

2006-01-08 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
Sorry, Dr.Schaffer, the name is "Hans Hoyer" and not "Han Hoyer", which would imply a chinese origin perhaps .. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EM

[Hornlist] Re: Han Hoyer 5802K

2006-01-08 Thread William Schaffer
Orlando Pandolfi wrote: <5802 CK is not available yet, but VERY soon Do you know if these newer models are going to be at any of the upcoming workshops? I'd always liked the older Hoyer horns as an affordable alternative for students when they were available and 'd love to play a few of these new

RE: [Hornlist] Han Hoyer 5802K

2006-01-08 Thread Pandolfi, Orlando
BTW, The "2" in the number refers to string. 5801 is metal linkage. There are now a couple of new 5802's. One is the 5802 PM which is a small bell Kruspe wrap, and the 5802 CK is the Geyer wrap. 5802 CK is not available yet, but VERY soon. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [m

RE: [Hornlist] Hans Hoyer 5802K (addition to my original post)

2006-01-08 Thread Pandolfi, Orlando
Hi Mike, The 5802K has undergone some changes, and is now more of a true Geyer wrap. This model is being released in a couple of months. The difference in appearance is that the branches entering and leaving the valve cluster are straight instead of curved "Knopf" style. I'm a bit biased, as I ha

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Signs of leaky checkbook?

2006-01-08 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
But, Dave, there is a very cheap solution: Dont let the valve rotors & casings corrode. How ? Keep your mouth clean before & during playing. Sometimes, teethbrushes seem to be unknown. Avoid acidic intake before playing & during intermissions. Keep the horn clean. Dont expose it to aggressive envi

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Signs of leaky checkbook?

2006-01-08 Thread BrassArtsUnlim
In a message dated 1/7/2006 10:22:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Then too, it can creep up on you as Paul mentioned. A good horn may get minutely leakier month by month but it happens so slowly, you don't notice it and you use more and more muscle to make it keep worki