[Hornlist] Common Intonation woes, Atonal......Overtone series.

2007-05-19 Thread matthew scheffelman
Most common intonational woes are NOT caused by the poor musicianship of horn players performing atonal music. To suggest such is absurd. Nice excuse. HA I would say horrible listening skills ( see below!!!), lack of attention to pitch, and the lack of quality in many "wind ensembles" playing

RE: [Hornlist] RE: cornets

2007-05-19 Thread hans
Do you refer to AltenburgĀ“s "heroic art of trumpet playing" ? Yes, the trumpeters would not play the horns then & horn players were not allowed to "treat" the trumpets. Trumpet players had to be born within a matrimonial couple & possess a clean criminal record, as they were used as parlamentarians

Re: [Hornlist] Young Artist Competition

2007-05-19 Thread Valkhorn
I always try competition winners. These are tough pieces in tough keys - but you have to be careful and play them accurately. I won a competition the other year with the Won Weber in E, and I also won another competition with the Rosetti Concerto No. 5 in E. There's something about the ke

Re: [Hornlist] Young Artist Competition

2007-05-19 Thread Debbie Schmidt
I don't think you will win a competition playing the second and third movement of Mozart 2 if this is a high school / college age group especially if it is open to all instrumentalists'. Kalmus has a lrge selection of parts at affordable prices take a look at what they have to get an idea of what i

[Hornlist] RE: cornets

2007-05-19 Thread MUMFORDHornworks
I read in one source that originally cornets were, as the name would suggest, "small cornos", meant to be played by horn players. Trumpet players would not lower themselves to play such an instrument and kept to their natural long trumpets. They (literally)had their own union and there was

RE: [Hornlist] Dukas Villanelle

2007-05-19 Thread David B. Thompson
Steve Freides wrote: >I heard the Dukas Villanelle for the first time last night, >French Horn soloist with a concert band. Does anyone know if >the concert band arrangment of this is in the same key as the >orchestral version? It is indeed. The Dukas is one of our publications, and all of the t

Re: [Hornlist] Dukas Villanelle

2007-05-19 Thread Jay Anderson
Yeah, the version that's up was before I added in a lot of the markings. I have most of the problems corrected now, but I haven't resubmitted it yet. I should get on that I guess. -Jay On 5/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Someone here posted a website where the music was

Re: [Hornlist] Dukas Villanelle

2007-05-19 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Someone here posted a website where the music was available for free - I can't remember the address. I looked at it and there were a few things which needed correcting (muted and stopped indications missing for example) but basically the notes were right. Found it - it's on the mutopia sit

RE: [Hornlist] Dukas Villanelle

2007-05-19 Thread Steve Freides
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 5:04 PM > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Dukas Villanelle > > > > In a message dated 19/05/2007 21:44:34 GMT Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >

Re: [Hornlist] Dukas Villanelle

2007-05-19 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 19/05/2007 21:44:34 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >The version I heard had numerous G's (top of the treble clef, concert C above >middle C), one A that I noticed, and nothing higher, So you missed the top c at the end then? Cheers, Lawrence lawre

[Hornlist] Dukas Villanelle

2007-05-19 Thread Steve Freides
I heard the Dukas Villanelle for the first time last night, French Horn soloist with a concert band. Does anyone know if the concert band arrangment of this is in the same key as the orchestral version? The version I heard had numerous G's (top of the treble clef, concert C above middle C), one A

RE: [Hornlist] Young Artist Competition

2007-05-19 Thread Steve Freides
> From: michael reeedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >I would like to participate and hopefully win the 3 > 2007-2008 season young artist competitions in my area, but I > am not sure as to what solo I should do. Please keep in mind > that the piece needs to be easy to find for the orchestra

RE: [Hornlist] Translation Please

2007-05-19 Thread hans
It translates "with free performance (or recitation)" - somew kind of a recitativo, not just slow down. StraussĀ“ handwriting says the same (exactly the same wording). Yes, it may start with dotted quarter = quarter. The upbeat to the stretta should be in exact the same tempo as the stretta, so agai

[Hornlist] Re: pitch, temperament and intonation

2007-05-19 Thread Wendell Rider
On May 19, 2007, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: message: 2 date: Sat, 19 May 2007 01:33:20 -0400 from: "Steve Burian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject: [Hornlist] pitch, temperament and intonation I think that to say F# is not the same as Gb (or pick your own favorite black key on the key

[Hornlist] C#--Db ?

2007-05-19 Thread wkling
Dear Horn Geeks, There is a difference acoustically between C# and Db, but in the practical world if you just play with the most beautiful round, warm, enveloping sound you can and imagine everything in tempered pitch, don't things usually work out? An interesting article on Acoustics in the In

[Hornlist] Young Artist Competition

2007-05-19 Thread michael reeedy
Hello, I would like to participate and hopefully win the 3 2007-2008 season young artist competitions in my area, but I am not sure as to what solo I should do. Please keep in mind that the piece needs to be easy to find for the orchestra parts because one is a community symphony. I was thin

[Hornlist] Translation Please

2007-05-19 Thread Wendell Rider
Hi, Hey Hans, I'm sitting here with the original piano reduction to the Strauss one and at the 4/4 section in the last movement in the International Edition it says "Mit freiem Vortrag" but the original handwriting is a bit unclear and I was wondering what your take on this was. I guess it

Re: [Hornlist] Used horns in NYC

2007-05-19 Thread Herbert Foster
There's Dillon Music, http://www.dillonmusic.com/, in Woodbridge, NJ, not far from NYC. They know brass and horns, and I send students and section mates there. Herb Foster --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > (not joke-related) > > I have a niece who lives in NYC and would like to return > to horn pla

RE: [Hornlist] OT: Cornetto WAS Cimbasso

2007-05-19 Thread hans
The life span was perhaps like you said, but for instruments played every day. Some very good instruments were made for rich people who did not play them but got them played occasionally only. But they got them preserved very well. I know many players, who have to get valve jobs made on their horn

RE: [Hornlist] OT: Cornetto WAS Cimbasso

2007-05-19 Thread Dennis Herrick
> I have an > old one, some 300+ years, wood & leather on the outside, with > key holes like a recorder. On the subject of old wooden wind instruments, a few years ago I was talking to a musician playing a baroque flute and dressed in period costume at some castle or something in London. I a

RE: [Hornlist] OT: Cornetto WAS Cimbasso

2007-05-19 Thread Dennis Herrick
> In a message dated 19/05/2007 02:48:53 GMT Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > writes: > > >Were the Brandenburg 1 and/or 2 "horn/trumpet" > >parts written for the cornetto? Yet one more thing I know a little about, having played it 3 or 4 times It wasn't written for cornetto and

RE: [Hornlist] OT: Cornetto WAS Cimbasso

2007-05-19 Thread hans
I said it before, but it got lost: The no.1 was written for these "lieblich pompoese Waldhoerner in F" - the lovely pompous Waldhorns in F. (Mayer) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL P

RE: [Hornlist] pitch, temperament and intonation

2007-05-19 Thread hans
This is all perfect, but far too confusing most people, who struggle from note to note, cracking more notes than written or splitting every note ever second time (a bit exaggerated but true !) or worse splitting three notes out of two written notes. The more important thing is it, to give the e.g