[Hornlist] Bayreuth Horn players 1930/31

2008-10-28 Thread phirsch
I'm now looking at a couple of booklet/handbooks (way too hefty to be simply called programs) from the Bayreuth Festival seasons of 1930 and 1931. Each has a quadruple fold-out list of the cast and orchestra (conductors - Furtwaengler, Muck, Toscanini, Elmendorff, S. Wagner). With 2 complete Rings

[Hornlist] How to Practice

2008-10-28 Thread William Melton
Can anyone suggest a reading list of books that deal specifically with 'how= ' to approach practicing the horn, not 'what' to practice? Michael Hoeltzel devotes a chapter to "The Art of Practicing" in his "Mastery of the French Horn." He not only discusses effective practice methods, but

Re: [Hornlist] Beethoven #1, Horn in C - Alto or Basso?

2008-10-28 Thread Hans Pizka
Hello Steve, Kjellruns tumb rules are valid with the exception of C-alto, which is not explicitely noted such. This special transposition is found in certain Haydn ouvertures, in Mozarts Idomeneo etc. but rarely i the music of the 19th cent. You have well noted, that the horn parts would be far t

RE: [Hornlist] Beethoven #1, Horn in C - Alto or Basso?

2008-10-28 Thread Steve Freides
Thank you and thanks to Kjellrun for your replies. -S- > -Original Message- > From: Paul Mansur [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 12:51 PM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Beethoven #1, Horn in C - Alto or Basso? > > Beethoven 1 is Horn in C bass

Re: [Hornlist] Beethoven #1, Horn in C - Alto or Basso?

2008-10-28 Thread Paul Mansur
Beethoven 1 is Horn in C basso, down a P4 for playing a horn in F. Paul Mansur On Oct 28, 2008, at 12:36 PM, Steve Freides wrote: I was looking at a score of Beethoven Symphony #1 and saw a pair of horns in C - does one assume this to be concert pitch (up a fifth) or C basso (down a fourth

Re: [Hornlist] Beethoven #1, Horn in C - Alto or Basso?

2008-10-28 Thread Kjellrun Hestekin
Basso. As a rough rule of thumb, take Bb as a point of demarcation. Transpositions between F and Bb above (F#, G, A, Bb alto) transpose UP. Those between F and Bb below (E, Eb, D, C, B/H, Bb Basso), transpose DOWN. ALL horn transpositions sound lower than concert pitch. There are some exc

[Hornlist] Beethoven #1, Horn in C - Alto or Basso?

2008-10-28 Thread Steve Freides
I was looking at a score of Beethoven Symphony #1 and saw a pair of horns in C - does one assume this to be concert pitch (up a fifth) or C basso (down a fourth and therefore 1 octave below concert pitch) from the usual Horn in F? Just from the looks of the part, I am guessing it's C-basso. I don'

Re: [Hornlist] Konzertst ΓΌ ck & Problem, Part 2

2008-10-28 Thread Hans Pizka
The Schumann Konzertstueck thread: Yes, there is a 4-horns-only-score, also a piano reduction & a conductor score, published earlier by KaWeAmsterdam, which is part of my publishing, since I acquired this company after the death of Klaas Weelink 1983. This piece has not been written for the aver

[Hornlist] RE: on the streets (was 2 horns and strings)

2008-10-28 Thread bangs
Original Message Subject: on the streets (was 2 horns and strings) From: "Leonard & Peggy Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, October 24, 2008 8:35 am To: "horn list memphis" Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carl Bangs writes: A movement from an early Haydn symphony might

[Hornlist] RE: on the streets (was 2 horns and strings)

2008-10-28 Thread bangs
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