RE: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom und drang

2008-12-07 Thread Steve Burian
I have a book at school The Schubert Song Companion or some similar title. Each of his 600 plus songs gets about 1-2 pages of background and some analysis. One of the appendixes (appendages?) categorizes by key. I will try to remember to bring the book home and share a few of its insights.

Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom und drang

2008-12-07 Thread Eww02
...and what of changes in the pitch of the basic tuning A in different times and places? In a message dated 12/7/2008 1:21:20 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a book at school The Schubert Song Companion or some similar title. Each of his 600 plus songs

Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom und drang

2008-12-07 Thread Kit Wolf
I was under the impression that the moods associated with different keys were lost when we adopted equal-temperament tuning? If this is so, then neither absolute pitch nor perfect pitch would have much to do with it. Kit ...and what of changes in the pitch of the basic tuning A in different

[Hornlist] Auf dem strom und drang

2008-12-06 Thread HornCabbage
Hans P wrote: That´s the reason, why I published Auf dem Strom in E, Eb, D C Then Dan H wrote: That's good, Hans, I should have ordered it from you.  Do you think Schubert would mind all these different keys?  Why did he pick E?  There are supposed to be certain moods associated with certain

[Hornlist] Auf dem Strom

2008-12-04 Thread Daniel B. Hrdy
I recently played (for fun) the wonderful Auf dem Strom. The pianist spontaneously said,Why don't we play it in Eb instead of E? The singer was happier, I was happier, and the pianist had no problems. I don't know what Schubert would have thought, but if your pianist can handle it, I

Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem Strom

2008-12-04 Thread bakercor
I've played it in both keys, just going with what the singer has worked up.? But I have to say that it is much easier in E flat! Sherry Baker -Original Message- From: Daniel B. Hrdy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:49 pm Subject: [Hornlist] Auf dem

Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem Strom

2008-12-04 Thread Richard V. West
I've played it in E, Eb, and D, depending on the singer's range. It works well in all those keys. Most lieder can be transposed to fit the singer's range...probably the composers expected that. The biggest transposing challenge is for the pianist. Richard in Seattle Daniel B. Hrdy wrote: I

Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem Strom

2008-12-04 Thread Dan Phillips
Richard V. West wrote: I've played it in E, Eb, and D, depending on the singer's range. It works well in all those keys. Most lieder can be transposed to fit the singer's range...probably the composers expected that. The biggest transposing challenge is for the pianist. Exactly. It works

Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem Strom

2008-12-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
That´s the reason, why I published Auf dem Strom in E, Eb, D C Greetings Hans == -Original Message- Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:25:54 +0100 Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem Strom From: Dan Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List

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2008-01-02 Thread James Maddrey
. Notes also include a short biography of Tomboeck. Happy New year! Young Jim From: Daniel Canarutto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: December 31, 2007 2:44:16 PM EST To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom Reply-To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Happy new

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2008-01-01 Thread hans
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard V. West Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 6:01 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom DalleyHN wrote: That reminds me, based on the text it seems natural that the voice should be a tenor. Good

Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2008-01-01 Thread Richard V. West
hans wrote: And, Richard, playing the piece in E on the F-horn does not create fingering problems, while playing it on the Bb-horn creates fingering problems. Hans: You're correct. When I wrote that, I really was referring to playing it on the F/Bb double (nominally treated as F horn), so

Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2008-01-01 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 2:31 AM -0800 1/1/08, Richard V. West wrote: Although I've never played the piece with a horn crooked in E, from the part it looks like the fingering on a (valve) horn in E would be rather straightforward. That's right. I've done it on a horn crooked in E/A and the fingering was easy.

[Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread Alon reuven
Happy new year everybody !! Does anyone know of a good recording of Auf dem strom in Eb? Alon Reuven ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

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2007-12-31 Thread Daniel Canarutto
Happy new year everybody !! Does anyone know of a good recording of Auf dem strom in Eb? Alon Reuven Yes, the recording of Wolgang Tomboeck on the CD The Art of Vienna Horn. You can also get it from iTunes. Greetings, Daniel ___ post:

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2007-12-31 Thread Luke Zyla
. My sons got me an I-Pod for Christmas. I think I am going to OD on I-tunes. Luke Zyla - Original Message - From: Alon reuven [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 2:03 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom Happy new year everybody !! Does anyone

RE: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread Hunt,Thomas
In Eb? It is in E!! Tom in iowa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Canarutto Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:44 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom Happy new year everybody !! Does anyone know of a good

Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread David Goldberg
Hunt,Thomas wrote: In Eb? It is in E!! Tom in iowa That depends on what the meaning of is is. David Goldberg ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

RE: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread Hunt,Thomas
touche -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Goldberg Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 3:14 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom Hunt,Thomas wrote: In Eb? It is in E!! Tom in iowa That depends on what

Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread DalleyHN
Alas, Yes. The original Auf dem Strom calls for horn in E. However there are versions with the work transcribed down a half step to E Flat, and down a whole step to the key of D. And I have heard of an arrangement in the Key of C, to accomodate a low voice. Thus I would not be surprised if a

Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread Luke Zyla
: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom Alas, Yes. The original Auf dem Strom calls for horn in E. However there are versions with the work transcribed down a half step to E Flat, and down a whole step to the key of D. And I have heard of an arrangement in the Key of C, to accomodate a low voice. Thus I would

Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread Richard V. West
DalleyHN wrote: That reminds me, based on the text it seems natural that the voice should be a tenor. Good call! Auf dem Strom was originally written for a tenor, specifically Ludwig Tietze, who sang it at its premier on March 26, 1828 with Schubert himself at the piano and J.R. Lewy

[Hornlist] Auf dem Strom

2006-07-08 Thread Eldon Matlick
While not specified in the score, Schubert premiered this piece with tenor voice, with JR Lewy on horn and with the composer on piano. It occurred within months of the composer's death. While I've done this work many times with soprano, I find the colors are much more rich with a tenor. When I

RE: [Hornlist] Auf dem Strom

2006-07-08 Thread Hans.Pizka
] Auf dem Strom While not specified in the score, Schubert premiered this piece with tenor voice, with JR Lewy on horn and with the composer on piano. It occurred within months of the composer's death. While I've done this work many times with soprano, I find the colors are much more rich