Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-25 Thread Weshatch
In a message dated 11/25/2002 2:08:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > As I said, factory quality. No wonder about the rotor > problems .. cylindrical too .. > This is true, but Holton valves and spindles are tapered.

Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-24 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
If you check my message, you find that I wrote (Yamaha) in brackets to remind the readers about your assumption, that it was Yamahas philosophy (perhaps). ... . "J. Kosta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Just to clarify... the email I sent to Hans Pizka was

Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-24 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
As I said, factory quality. No wonder about the rotor problems .. cylindrical too .. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > In a message dated 11/24/2002 2:56:36 PM Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PRO

Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-24 Thread J. Kosta
Just to clarify... the email I sent to Hans Pizka was marked as a PRIVATE EMAIL, and was not posted to the list. Also, I DID NOT write the quoted section below - I certainly believe that reliable and high quality parts CAN be made in the USA. My comment to Hans was that perhaps the Yamaha quality

Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-24 Thread Weshatch
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] In a message dated 11/24/2002 2:56:36 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I know how much I pay for the valve section without the slides True, I pay over $1000 for a Meinlschmidt valve section. But if one checks the price list

Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-24 Thread Weshatch
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] In a message dated 11/24/2002 2:56:36 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > But tell me, how Holton can produce a double horn for $ 1.000.- ? The operation sheets at Holton allow for a Farkas horn to be built in 24 man hours from

Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-24 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
You said some things, which are absolutely true except in details. You should show me a cutting tool, which holds for 600 valve sets. No way. The good old masters, who work here in Germany, use very good machines, but do not make mass production. So they have time to re-adjust the tools, to re-s

Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-24 Thread Weshatch
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] In a message dated 11/24/2002 9:49:18 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > And, who is making most of the money ? The producer or the dealer ? The same > as in the CD market. > Sorry for the incomplete quote, but my answer o

Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-24 Thread Weshatch
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] In a message dated 11/24/2002 2:23:35 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Do you still think, Japanese factories of quality products produce junk > parts ? Their failure factor is the same as everywhere in the > industrialized

Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-24 Thread Dave Tuttle
g and/or sustaining arguments that don't exist, makes me wonder where you're coming from... - Original Message - From: "Prof.Hans Pizka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamah

Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-24 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
What are high quality parts & what are low quality parts ? What is the difference in the making process ? Are they produced or processed differently ? Please explain that regarding the single parts for brass instruments. Is there a difference in machining ? What are the prefabricated parts ? Be

Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-24 Thread BrassArtsUnlim
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] In a message dated 11/24/2002 3:23:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Do you still think, Japanese factories of quality products produce junk > parts ? Their failure factor is the same as everywhere in the > industrialized

Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-24 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
Do you still think, Japanese factories of quality products produce junk parts ? Their failure factor is the same as everywhere in the industrialized world, if not less. Do not make the mistake, thinking about other nations products as if they had not improved things during the last 30 or 40 yea

Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-23 Thread Weshatch
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] In a message dated 11/23/2002 4:00:33 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Tax advantage &cheaper labour costs ! > Also, control of the quality and consistancy of the parts going to make the instruments in Grand Rapids. Wes ___

Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-23 Thread Klaus Bjerre
And maybe a circumvention of more or less secret trade quotas. The Brass Bulletin had a feature series on US brass makers a decade or so ago. Back then the US Yamaha factory told, that its contribution made up about 70% of the combined value of the instruments sold. Klaus on 23.11.02 22:00, Prof

Re: [Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-23 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
Tax advantage & cheaper labour costs ! . "Leonard & Peggy Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Bob Osmun writes: > << have > an "A" as the last digit of the serial number. All Yamaha double horns are > now, and always have been, made in Japan. > > Bob

[Hornlist] Berlin Yamaha's (Osmun)

2002-11-23 Thread Leonard & Peggy Brown
Bob Osmun writes: <