Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure

Cinnamon contains some tannic acid as also is in the skin of certain fruits (pears, strawberries e.g.) or fruit juices, which has a negative effect upon mucuous membranes. But this effect is of short duration. Some liquids or pastes used by the dentists have a similar effect. But must not think,

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure

This is a question that has interested me for some time, both with respect to the horn and other interests. I used to go to a climbing wall and it fascinated me that some days I could climb fairly hard overhangs, whereas other days even easy routes got the better of me. What really surprised me was

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure

I noticed that cinnamon flavored mouthwash caused all the mucous membranes with which it came into contact to swell up and sensitize. That made for an unreliable and slightly painful embouchure. Not an excuse - just a discovery that took a week or so to figure out, and a few days of abstinenc

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure

I beg to differ Hans. The first time I experienced this issue was about 20 years ago - I was doing some afternoon playing at a convention and walked around the convention floor with a cup of MFG coffee (the brand). Later, when I went to play I literally could not get out any notes above for

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure

Well, all these theories about the influence of food or medication on the embouchure SERVE WELL as a most welcome EXCUSE. The only thing to be avoided would be strong coffee, as it might result in shaking (nerves) but not on the embouchure. ___ post:

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure

I find that foods or medications that cause swelling or shrinking such as decongestants and some blood pressure medications can adversely affect the embouchure. Diuretics are particularly bad for this effect, and coffee is a mild diuretic. If I have some serious horn playing to do, I delay use

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure

a less known transposition. And similar nonsense. -Original Message- Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:38:48 +0100 Subject: [Hornlist] Embouchure From: marksue...@aol.com To: horn@music.memphis.edu This is going to sound strange. But does anyone know if there are any dietetic things that promote

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure

I'm actually curious to know kind if the opposite - are there things folks are aware of that adversely affect the embouchure? For example, certain coffee ruins my chops for days - it makes them sluggish and non-responsive. Also, artificial sweeteners have a similar effect. Does anyone find

[Hornlist] Embouchure

This is going to sound strange. But does anyone know if there are any dietetic things that promote a healthier embouchure - more strength, less fatigue, that kind of thing. Ron **Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now.

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure set-up?

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[Hornlist] Embouchure set-up?

What is this obsession with embouchure? Look at performence results. Can you play a three octave scale from the second fundemental C to the C above the staff and return to the fundemental C without a "break" or "shift" in your embouchure and maintain the characteristic tone of the horn? If you

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CTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 1:43 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Embouchure set up question. Have any of you ever seen a successful horn player set up w/ more bottom lip than top lip in the mpc? Have any of you ever seen a successful horn play

[Hornlist] Embouchure set up question.

Have any of you ever seen a successful horn player set up w/ more bottom lip than top lip in the mpc? Have any of you ever seen a successful horn player with as much as 50% bottom lip in the mpc? Valerie Sweepstakes!!! Enter for y

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure frestrations

I'm sure that Smiley's method works for many and solves high range problems. However, not for all, especially, I think, for those with very thin lips. The harder skin on the edge of the lips doesn't vibrate so well, and you get "no speakies." Herb Foster --- Valerie WELLS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

[Hornlist] Embouchure frestrations

Jeremy, I'd like to recommend you check out Jeff Smiley's book, The Balanced Embouchure, for help with your embouchure frustrations. His simple little exercises lifted me out of the range rut I was stuck in for several years. He's a trumpet teacher whose program [called BE] has helped countl

[Hornlist] Embouchure frustrations

Hey Friends - Please pardon me as I bring up yet another embouchure topic and pardon me further if the e-mail is dreadfully long. For the past 20+ years, I have played with a VERY funky embouchure. This is due mostly to a few significant injuries. The first of which was the destruction of one

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure - lips- green grass

Good mixed metaphor. The point of my remarks was that we all have our issues and that one size does not fit all. What works for you may not work for me and vice versa. I do know that thick lips are not a barrier to success--consider Louis Armstrong. Now who had very thin lips? Herb Foster Herb Fo

[Hornlist] Embouchure - lips- green grass

Herb Foster and Loren Meyhew wrote about the problems of "thin lips". The grass on the other side of the fence, the land of thick lips, isn't a walk in the park either (sorry for mixed metaphors). While thick lips might help with tone, the down side is that thick lips swell such that the embouchu

[Hornlist] Embouchure

1a. It is important in your embouchure set that the fleshy part of your lips do the vibrating. This makes for a full rich-bodied sound with less effort simply because the fleshy parts vibrate easier than the outer skin parts. People with "fat" lips actually have an advantage in playing the horn.

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure

You got it right about thin lips, Loren. Someone I know (me) has less than 1/8 inch (3mm) vertical distance between the red edges of the upper and lower lips. Einsetzen or rolling in are not an option and cause things like "no speakies." I have found that Wendell Rider's "buzzy buzz" exercise on hi

[Hornlist] Embouchure again

I need to make a correction, thanks to Paul Mansur. The word "peddle" should have been "pedal." Loren Mayhew \@() Finke Horns [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mayhews.us/CI/Finke 011 1 (520) 289-0700 ___ post: horn@music.memp

[Hornlist] Embouchure

A couple of other important points I forgot to make in my last append on this subject. 1a. It is important in your embouchure set that the fleshy part of your lips do the vibrating. This makes for a full rich-bodied sound with less effort simply because the fleshy parts vibrate easier than the

RE: [Hornlist] Embouchure change

Let me add a counter-opinion or thought. Sometimes a "defective" embouchure is in response to physical problems. For example, I play with a very similar embouchure to what you said you play with and I've had to struggle to be where I am today (and I have a lot more struggling to do) but I have som

[Hornlist] Embouchure change

Having gone through a couple, I can add a couple brief thoughts to all that has been written: 1. To help go cold turkey, first consider not playing for a couple weeks to let the old muscles atrophy a little. 2. The regular advice of a teacher you trust is invaluable. I have changed with and

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure and other problems of an older player

On the geezers issue. I'm 63 and started playing again five years ago. I exercise everyday, maintain a good weight, get my sleep, practice 2-3 hours a day and the only problem I see is that my lips tighten every now and then and I sometimes have a problem settling in to play after a meal.

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure and other problems of an older player

To all of you Old Geezers, of which I am getting to be one, and young Geezers and whomever else. Remember just one thing. THE PROCESS IS THE SAME. It doesn't matter if you are young and just starting or older and just starting or are starting over. Do the fundamentals!!! I love starting y

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure and other problems of an older player

Can I join your new Geezers Club? I'm 76 and starting my third year back on the horn after a fifty year lay-off. I am having a few problems, and it is difficult for me to determine which are because of my age and which is because of the fact it has been over fifty years since I played the Ho

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure and other problems of an older player

I'm just a couple of years behind you, and I'm waiting for the replies. We could form a Geezers Club. One important thing, as you are probably aware, is physical shape. At our age exercise, especially aerobic exercise, is very important so the body can support the embouchure. Strength exercises for

[Hornlist] Embouchure and other problems of an older player

I have been a contented horn player in local bands and orchestras for about sixty-five years. Luckily, when I was a lot younger, I took lessons with some excellent teachers who knew about embouchure development; proper maintenance and how to cope with serious lip problems as they begin to ar

RE: [Hornlist] Embouchure Dystonia

PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Embouchure Dystonia I only recently found out what the heck was wrong with me. Focal dystonia. More specifically Embouchure Dystonia. Mine came about from trying to learn the bag pipes. The extreme clamping pressure needed to seal the mouthpipe o

[Hornlist] Embouchure Dystonia

I only recently found out what the heck was wrong with me. Focal dystonia. More specifically Embouchure Dystonia. Mine came about from trying to learn the bag pipes. The extreme clamping pressure needed to seal the mouthpipe on the pipes completely obliterated my horn embouchure. I didn't hav

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure

Daniel Canarutto says: > > I don't think I need this, but just out of curiosity I checked the > Merriam-Webster website, which gives also the (American English?) > prononciation of the words. "Hup" is actually there, so even if you > are not American you can follow Mr. Sanner's instructions...

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure

Howard Sanner wrote: Here's a good way to get started. Breathe in through your mouth. Say "hup" in an American English pronunciation I don't think I need this, but just out of curiosity I checked the Merriam-Webster website, which gives also the (American English?) prononciation o

[Hornlist] Embouchure

On Feb 6, 2006, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: message: 5 date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 20:31:43 -0500 from: Howard Sanner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject: Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure How do you keep your corners firm? I never understood that. Another question, How do you keep your corner

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure

How do you keep your corners firm? I never understood that. Another question, How do you keep your corners firm without smiling? Here's a good way to get started. Breathe in through your mouth. Say "hup" in an American English pronunciation. The word "up" with an H in front of it. Continue

re: [Hornlist] Embouchure

Try gripping a small straw (like the straw used to stir coffe) in the center of your lips. Don't squeeze it between the upper and lower lips, but tighten the lips all the way around the straw, while keeping the corners spread at usual playing distance, and keep the chin 'down'. Jay Kosta Endwell

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure

How do you keep your legs firm on the ground without dancing if listening to dance music. Seriously, make a #brass player face#, looking seriously like a Japanese samurai. Understood ? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at ht

[Hornlist] Embouchure

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RE: [Hornlist] Embouchure Change

chords. Loren \@() [EMAIL PROTECTED] (520) 403-6897 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 9:17 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Embouchure Change "Hairy&q

[Hornlist] Embouchure Change

"Hairy" Kerry Thompson wrote: <<<...changing an embouchure is one of the most difficult, riskiest, and frustrating things you can attempt. ... the failure rate on embouchure changes is at least 90%. Probably less if ...a motivated music major, but even then success is far from guaranteed. >

RE: [Hornlist] embouchure strengthening device

I wonder if there are different rim options available... Trey From: "Steven Ovitsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Horn List To: "'The Horn List'" Subject: [Hornlist] embouchure strengthening device Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:42:32 -0600 Here

[Hornlist] embouchure strengthening device

Here's possibly the last embouchure building gadget you'll ever need. eBay item 7344912178 Cheers, Steven Ovitsky ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

[Hornlist] embouchure problems

G'day To those listers who responded to 'embouchure problems' I thank you for your input, some useful suggestions. Tony Crosse South Australia ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn

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[Hornlist] Embouchure problem

>message: 23 >date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:06:42 +0930 >from: "Tony Crosse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >subject: [Hornlist] embouchure problem. > >While I was explaining the horn embouchure to her I noticed the her jaw rec= >eded about 3/8"which causes the m

[Hornlist] Embouchure Problem

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[Hornlist] embouchure problem.

G,day, A young lady (15yrs old) has asked me to give her horn lessons , she has been playing the cornet in the local brass band for the past 7 years where problems with her embouchure have gone un noticed. While I was explaining the horn embouchure to her I noticed the her jaw receded about 3/

RE: [Hornlist] Embouchure Resources

:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 10:02 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject:[Hornlist] Embouchure Resources I'm working on a project this semester trying to locate online information on various aspects of horn playing. Right now, I'm focusing on embouc

Re: [Hornlist] Embouchure Resources

On Feb 1, 2005, at 9:02 PM, Rory McDaniel wrote: Do you have any suggestions for other online resources? http://www.embouchures.com/ Dan Dan Phillips Associate Professor of Horn, University of Memphis site administrator: music.memphis.edu ___

[Hornlist] Embouchure Resources

I'm working on a project this semester trying to locate online information on various aspects of horn playing. Right now, I'm focusing on embouchure. Thus far, I have located articles by Dr. John Ericson, and an article by Dr. Andrew Pelletier on the IHS site. Do you have any suggestions for ot

[Hornlist] Embouchure muscle vectors

Using text format, I attempted to show how my embouchure muscles work. The arrows show the direction of pressure, and the length of the arrows shows the magnitude of pressure. So, the arrow --> has twice the pressure of ->. Hopefully, this is a way that horn players can share with others how thei

[Hornlist] embouchure injury article

I saw this article at the ITA (trombone) site and thought it might be of interest to you. It discusses injury and treatment of the orbicularis oris as it relates to embouchure of brass players. http://www.ita-web.org/journal/2003/jan/wolff01.asp Jay Kosta Endwell NY USA __

RE: [Hornlist] embouchure problem

h 16, 2003 7:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hornlist] embouchure problem I'm pretty sure this is a result of overpracticing, but I'm not sure how to fix it: I'm having trouble articulating anything from about first line E down to an octave below - at least not with a norm

Re: [Hornlist] embouchure problem

In a message dated 3/16/2003 6:50:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > I'm pretty sure this is a result of overpracticing, but I'm not sure how to > > fix it: I'm having trouble articulating anything from about first line E > down to an octave below - at least not with

[Hornlist] embouchure problem

I'm pretty sure this is a result of overpracticing, but I'm not sure how to fix it: I'm having trouble articulating anything from about first line E down to an octave below - at least not with a normal embouchure. I tend to just get air instead of sound. I feel like I can't get my lips to come