[Hornlist] RE: Horns for middle school, but a little OT

2004-03-17 Thread danatwiss
Bob Losin said: I suggested this to a band director friend who thought it was a great idea... but the powers that be informed him that money could only be spent on new instruments, or repairing existing instruments. If the repairs were too much money, then the instrument was scrapped,

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Horns for Middle School

2004-03-16 Thread Timothy A. Johnson
Technologies Northwestern College St. Paul, Minnesota http://tajohnson.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Smith Sent: Monday, 15 March, 2004 8:18 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horns for Middle School As one who

[Hornlist] RE: Horns for middle school

2004-03-16 Thread HornCabbage
Josh C wrote I never said I couldn't play in tune on one. I can play in tune on a garden hose with a funnel jammed in the end. I said they were notoriously difficult to play in tune. Glad you've got my problem all figured out though. Now if I can just figure out which end to put the

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Horns for Middle School

2004-03-16 Thread Richard Smith
Mr. Smith, With all due respect (and I do have enormous respect for hard working, underpaid, often unappreciated middle/high school band directors), I started on the Horn in 4th grade and was neither confused nor frustrated. This year, my 11 year old son has started the Horn (in F) and is neither

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horns for Middle School

2004-03-16 Thread Greg Campbell
Dave Tuttle wrote: ...I don't see what the big Bb deal is. Many times in a middle school situation, your horn players are trumpet converts and the key of the horn makes the transition easier. Obviously, an outstanding player should be transitioned to a double horn anyway, so you're going to have

Re: [Hornlist] RE: Horns for middle school

2004-03-16 Thread Billbamberg
Given the tight school budget situation and all the complaints about new horns, I would suggest taking a look at various sources for used instruments. Vintage horns by Reynolds (Chambers and Pottag), Conn (6D), Holton, Yamaha, and King sell on eBay all the time in the $500-$700 range. The

Re: [Hornlist] RE: Horns for middle school

2004-03-16 Thread Robert Losin
At 17:27 16-03-04, you wrote: Given the tight school budget situation and all the complaints about new horns, I would suggest taking a look at various sources for used instruments. I suggested this to a band director friend who thought it was a great idea... but the powers that be

[Hornlist] Re: Horns for Middle School

2004-03-15 Thread Benno Heinemann
The time has come, I believe, when we can't just say don't buy a chinese Horn. The chinese are starting to build some really quite decent Instruments now, but you wouldn't want to buy one without tried it, since there are still a lot of them that are junk. ( I tried one, it was in F minor!) The

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Horns for middle school

2004-03-15 Thread Pandolfi, Orlando
models available, although the focus right now is a top hand made line. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Horns for middle school In a message

[Hornlist] Re: Horns for Middle School

2004-03-15 Thread Jeremy Hansen
Never, ever, ever buy single Bb horns for your students. If anyone says that the difference in sound and technique doesn't make a difference, then they are missing the point of the instrument. Jeremy Hansen ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horns for Middle School

2004-03-15 Thread Margery Landis
I agree completely.single Bb horns are not a good way to go at all. By the way.Holton horns work very well, particularly for middle schoolers. I would strongly recommend the 177. It has a medium throat and bell, is solidly built and gets along really well with middle school kids.

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horns for Middle School

2004-03-15 Thread Scheimy
In a message dated 03/15/2004 5:59:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: is the Eb horn bad, too? Or is there a magical quality about Horn in F? I doubt that in the early days of natural horns, teachers would have insisted on beginners playing on the F crook only. Plus, you

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horns for Middle School

2004-03-15 Thread Richard Smith
I understand what you're saying, however I don't agree that most of the advantage is for the advanced player on the Bb side. With the partials further apart, it would make it less slippery for a beginning student. The frustration factor is a real one, though I agree that from a pure sense it is