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Subject: [Hornlist] Re: French Besson Trumpets
I heard the following story from a US Army soldier, and trumpet
player, who was
there when the French Besson factory was liberated from the Germans in
World War
II.
He was a close
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do you remove a mandrel that has hills and dips? What you describe
sounds like the result of someone trying to learn mandrel turning. You
can be reasonably assured there was a detail drawing and probably a
template preserving the exact shape.
I was wondering the
: [Hornlist] Re: French Besson Trumpets
How do you remove a mandrel that has hills and dips? What you describe
sounds like the result of someone trying to learn mandrel turning. You
can be reasonably assured there was a detail drawing and probably a
template preserving the exact shape
I heard the following story from a US Army soldier, and trumpet player, who was
there when the French Besson factory was liberated from the Germans in World
War II.
He was a close friend of mine, and played trumpet in the local symphony for
some thirty years. His son plays trumpet in
In a message dated 11/3/2006 9:45:47 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It seems that after the Besson factory was liberated, one of the US
engineers came across the leadpipe mandrels that were used in pre war
instrument
producion. He noticed that the mandrels did not
Wilbert's story may have a bit of truth in it; an interesting story!
However Dave is correct about variations in the internal hills and
valleys being nigh impossible to duplicate internally on a
leadpipe. Reminds me of the Pilciuk Accusonic leadpipes that have
ledges cut into the
Maybe the Besson workers, knowing that they were about to lose their
factory, deformed their mandrel deliberately in order to screw up German
horn manufacture. It gives new meaning to Loose Lips Sink Ships.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 11/3/2006 9:45:47 AM Eastern Standard
I would translate both hills and sips in them as hills and dips along the
taper, that is, the taper never decreasing, but sometimes increasing faster.
Put a straight edge along it, and you'll see hills and dips. I believe your
neighbor, Lawson, has a lead pipe like that for his horns. The story
Pilczuk is another good example of having to fudge the math. When he
developed the horn leadpipe, he figured it out mathematically perfect and made
the mandrel, but bending the leadpipe to shape threw everything off and he had
to completely redo the design. Schilke had a similar story.
In a message dated 11/3/2006 12:44:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I would translate both hills and sips in them as hills and dips along the
taper, that is, the taper never decreasing, but sometimes increasing faster.
Put a straight edge along it, and you'll see hills and
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