RE: [Hornlist] Wagner's anti-Semitism

2004-07-04 Thread Paul Kampen
Message text written by The Horn List >Protestants beat catholics in Ireland,< Dear Prof and List This was a particularly fascinating and informative posting - the reason why I enjoy some of the Non horn related messages most of all. However, this comment must be treated with caution. In the ea

Re: [Hornlist] Wagner's anti-Semitism

2004-06-29 Thread Paul Mansur
On Tuesday, June 29, 2004, at 08:40 AM, Hans Pizka wrote: As a human being, Wagner was a disgusting man. But what an artist. There lies the main issue. It seems to me that various points follow on from this. One of my favorite readings is a short chapter on Wagner found in Of Men and Music, a ser

RE: [Hornlist] Wagner's anti-Semitism

2004-06-29 Thread Hans Pizka
human being. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan West Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:13 AM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Wagner's anti-Semitism > As a human being, Wag

RE: [Hornlist] Wagner's anti-Semitism

2004-06-29 Thread Jonathan West
> As a human being, Wagner was a disgusting man. But what an artist. There lies the main issue. It seems to me that various points follow on from this. 1. It is possible to be a great artist and at the same time to be a complete shit. It is even surprisingly common! 2. It is a valid field of st

RE: [Hornlist] Wagner's anti-Semitism

2004-06-29 Thread Hans
MAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Dickow Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 6:44 AM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Wagner's anti-Semitism Hans, I understand how you feel this way, being as I am myself a true 'Wagnerite', one who can sin

Re: [Hornlist] Wagner's anti-Semitism

2004-06-28 Thread Robert Dickow
Hans, I understand how you feel this way, being as I am myself a true 'Wagnerite', one who can sing passages by heart (male roles mostly ;-) and have read many books (mainly concerning The Ring), and played the Ring operas in the pit and as back stage horn-caller. For years I spent most of my spare

RE: [Hornlist] Wagner's anti-Semitism

2004-06-28 Thread Hans Pizka
If you are that bigot, you have to turn yourself away from most arts & artists, who frequented brothels, drank excessively, used drug (Mozart did both), committed adultery frequently (Mozart is one of the best examples), betrayed friends voluntarily or out from their incapability handling money (Wa