RE: [Hornlist] scales

2007-03-15 Thread hans
Bravo Daniel, so D# & Eb are not the exactly the same. I have the feeling always, Eb leading down & D# leading up, so I use the rather flat 3rd octave of the Ab horn (Bb-horn 1st valve) for the Eb and the 10th step of the harmonic scale of the E-horn (F-Horn + 2nd valve) for the D# if both pitches

Re: [Hornlist] Scales

2004-09-18 Thread David Goldberg
My understanding of Jim's argument is: = 1) Practice time is scarce, and 2) the solitary goal of practice is to prepare certain passages adequately for public presentation, and 3) practicing scales doesn't help to prepare these passages; 4) Therefore, practicing scal

Re: [Hornlist] Scales and Juggling a Soccer ball and fear

2004-09-17 Thread Weshatch
In a message dated 9/17/2004 5:24:11 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Initially I think you asked the wrong question. The question should be once you have gained proficiency in all major and minor scales and there respective arpeggios do you continue to diligently practice th

Re: [Hornlist] Scales and Juggling a Soccer ball and fear

2004-09-17 Thread Jasoncat
Jim, Initially I think you asked the wrong question. The question should be once you have gained proficiency in all major and minor scales and there respective arpeggios do you continue to diligently practice them? If you do why do you continue down this path. If you don't why not and what do y

Re: [Hornlist] Scales and Juggling a Soccer ball and fear

2004-09-17 Thread Dan Phillips
On Sep 17, 2004, at 5:00 PM, jlmthompson wrote: I imagine there are some of those who will speak 'for' because it's the 'right' thing to say, do and feel especially amongst peers, since their peers feel that way about it, but inwardly they really may be 'against'. I can't speak for any of the o

Re: [Hornlist] Scales and Juggling a Soccer ball

2004-09-16 Thread CORNO911
In a message dated 9/16/04 4:22:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Couldn't our practice time be > better spent on other facets of the endeavor? > It all depends on how you practice scales. If you mindlessly run through them, then playing them is not to a useful purpose. However, since we ar

Re: [Hornlist] Scales and Juggling a Soccer ball

2004-09-16 Thread Greg Campbell
jlmthompson wrote: Here's my analogy. ... So why practice it when time spent juggling a soccer ball could be better spent doing other things with the ball for that time? Your analogy is flawed in my opinion. This one Scales : horn playing :: dribbling the ball around cones : soccer is more like

Re: [Hornlist] Scales and Juggling a Soccer ball

2004-09-16 Thread Chris Tedesco
Juggling and scales are really surprisingly similar, although I'm a lot better at scales than I am at juggling. I remember juggling when my step-mom would yell at me for kicking the ball against the house. Anyway, I think at least with juggling, the touch required to juggle well carries over int

Re: [Hornlist] Scales and Juggling a Soccer ball

2004-09-16 Thread Mark Louttit
Well, I have always followed conventional wisdom with regard to scales, yet in all honesty while I can play an F# major scale three octaves with no problem, I will invariably stumble if given a something to play in F# major. I think people learn things differently, and the ability to transfer p

Re: [Hornlist] Scales and Juggling a Soccer ball

2004-09-16 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
The Trinity exams in England no longer require candiditates to play scales. I think this is crazy (although there have been some interesting developments of late) I usually find that those of my students who opt to play the extra study instead of scales are the ones who most need to work

Re: [Hornlist] Scales and Juggling a Soccer ball

2004-09-16 Thread Shane McLaughlin
OK, I'll attempt this one. A scale will teach you all the notes to "expect" in that key signature/mode. After learning them in thirds, multiple octaves, starting on every degree of the scale, interval studies, Clark exercises, arpeggios, and whatever other patterns you can think of, and being able

Re: [Hornlist] Scales and Juggling a Soccer ball

2004-09-16 Thread Dan Phillips
On Sep 16, 2004, at 4:08 PM, jlmthompson wrote: I hope I don't get the 'tradition' answer to this one like I did to the 'transposing' dialog. When do you use 'scales' or how do you benefit from doing 'scales' when it comes time for a performance? An interesting juxtaposition of topics here :-) IM

Re: [Hornlist] Scales and Juggling a Soccer ball

2004-09-16 Thread BrassArtsUnlim
In a message dated 9/16/2004 5:22:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > When do you use 'scales' or how do > you benefit from doing 'scales' when it comes time for a performance? Do we > practice scales because our teachers did whose teachers did etc? > As the song from Th

RE: [Hornlist] Scales and Juggling a Soccer ball

2004-09-16 Thread McBeth, Amy J
When do you use 'scales' or how do you benefit from doing 'scales' when it comes time for a performance? Well, I think any time you play a Mozart concerto, the overture to La Gazza Ladra, or 4th horn solo from Beethoven's 9th symphony, (to name but a few examples) they come in pretty handy!