Re: [HOT] New Job for Tracing in the Congo

2013-03-24 Thread Rafael Avila Coya
Has anyone get any consensus on how to tag the national and provincial roads in RDC? There is a wiki [1] with very nice info about the roads, with their references and routes, but it doesn't say how to tag each of them: trunk, primary, secondary, tertiary and unclassified. Any clue? Cheers, Raf

[HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo

2013-03-24 Thread Rafael Avila Coya
Oups! I forgot the wiki URL: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Congo-Kinshasa/Routes Original Message Subject: Re: [HOT] New Job for Tracing in the Congo Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:29:44 +0100 From: Rafael Avila Coya To: hot@openstreetmap.org Has anyone get any co

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo

2013-03-24 Thread Pierre Béland
Rafael When mapping in african countries, we do not have access to documentation that classify roads. I proposed a classification for Mali roads which I think is pertinent for african countries in general.  This road classification is based on the observation of town sizes. The primary and seco

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo

2013-03-24 Thread Rafael Avila Coya
Hi, Pierre: Looking for documentation, I found some official documents that classify the major roads of the RDC [1]. The document 4.1 [2] classifies the roads in 3 different types: routes nationales, routes provinciales prioritaires and routes provinciales secondaires. Wouldn't it be better for

[HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the rebels

2013-03-24 Thread Séverin MENARD
Hi all, Bangui, the capital city of Central African Republic, has been taken over today by the Seleka rebels, three months after their coming from the northern part of the country. When they arrived close to Bangui in late December, we started a preparation, connecting with the humanitarian stakeh

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo

2013-03-24 Thread Pierre Béland
Rafael, We can see from this pdf that there is good information about road classification in DR Congo. But this map is not detailed enough and there is no shape file provided for road classification in the rgc.cd site. I will check with Claire Halleux if such file is available.   Pierre >

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo

2013-03-24 Thread Rafael Avila Coya
Pierre, This one is a bit more detailed for the area of Kitchanga: http://www.rgc.cd/site/index.php?option=com_phocadownload&view=category&download=79:etarrignki&id=12:autres-documents&Itemid=66 As an example, you can see the RS1031 secondary road. In the general map for the whole RDC you can't s

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo

2013-03-24 Thread Eric SIBERT
In Madagascar, there is also a governmental road classification. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:WikiProject_Madagascar#Hi.C3.A9rarchisation http://www.lalana.org/documents/reglementations/routes/decret_99_976%20RN.pdf National Roads are divided in three groups: - primary : joining provin

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo

2013-03-24 Thread Eric SIBERT
I proposed a classification for Mali roads [...] see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mali_Highway_tag For "Road condition", in Madagascar, I try to add : - smoothness - surface - seasonal And also, when a road is crossing a river: - bridge/ flood_prone / ford http://wiki.openstreetmap.or

Re: [HOT] New Job for Tracing in the Congo

2013-03-24 Thread Claire Halleux
Hello, As mentioned by JGC's links and Pierre: >From the end of February to the 5th of March, violent fightings between a rebel groups and the national army took place inside Ktichanga city. That event resulted in the destruction of more than 500 buildings, 80 deads, hundreds of wounded and thousa

[HOT] Announcing Heather Lesson's appointment to the Board

2013-03-24 Thread Joseph Reeves
Dear all, On behalf of the HOT Board I'm pleased to announce that Heather Lesson has been appointed to the position vacated by John Crowley. Heather was the only nomination, so she can take the position without the need for a vote. Of course we're all looking forward to working together for yours

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo

2013-03-24 Thread Pierre Béland
Eric, As I just told Severin I have revised the page for Mali to make it more generic for african countries. I agree with your propositions to describe road conditions and river crossings. Feel free to revise the wiki page to describe these. This way, we will have one page that apply to the v

Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the rebels

2013-03-24 Thread Pierre Béland
Séverin, I have revised the text in both french and english. Instead of talking only of Mali, I have modified to talk of african countries in general.   Pierre > > De : Séverin MENARD >À : hot@openstreetmap.org >Envoyé le : Dimanche 24 mars 2013 16h13 >Obje

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo

2013-03-24 Thread Pierre Béland
Eric These discussions show us that it is not an easy job to classify roads. The governments classify roads for administrative purposes and this do not necessarily show a clear hierarchy of roads. We may use partly this classification, but we have to adapt it to show a clear hierarchy of road

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo

2013-03-24 Thread Andrew Buck
Although we don't have population estimates, town area is a pretty decent proxy for this. We have discussed this a bit in Mali. I think using a numbers based approach like this is the wrong way to go however. If someone wants to know how many people a given road "connects" they can just derive t

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo

2013-03-24 Thread Claire Halleux
Regarding the road classification in DRC, the RGC follows (or at least tries to follow) the official directives and classifications established by the 3 road authorities*. Those ones are however not always very accurate for now, mainly because of the missing georeferenced data on road networks. Num

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo

2013-03-24 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Hi all, Just wanted to add a comment to the highway classification discussion, which I'm happy to see is finally picking up scope of developing countries more generally. I've been mapping in Haiti for nearly 3 years now and have struggled often with all of the higher road classes as practicabi

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Re: New Job for Tracing in the Congo

2013-03-24 Thread Tom Taylor
My experience in Mali (only a few weeks' worth) has all been with unpaved roads. Most of them disappear into the merest traces at some point due either to drifting sand or flood deposits. I look for two ruts rather than one to confirm that the way is not just a footway. Under such circumstances

Re: [HOT] Announcing Heather Lesson's appointment to the Board

2013-03-24 Thread Schuyler Erle
On Mar 24, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Joseph Reeves wrote: > > On behalf of the HOT Board I'm pleased to announce that Heather Lesson has > been appointed to the position vacated by John Crowley. Heather was the only > nomination, so she can take the position without the need for a vote. > > Of course

Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the rebels

2013-03-24 Thread Claire Halleux
Since this Sunday morning, increasing numbers of CAR residents have been crossing the border to get more secured on the other side of the Ubangi river. Many of them arrived directly in Zongo, the neighbouring town on DRC side. Its mapping is far less detailed than Bangui's, maybe we could set a tas

Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the rebels

2013-03-24 Thread Banick, Robert
Zongo would definitely be helpful to humanitarian organizations. When last I heard the IFRC was operating in part out of Zongo (this was weeks ago and may have changed). We recently sent some folks out with poster sized OSM printouts of Bangui / Zongo and were frustrated by the relative lack of

Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the rebels

2013-03-24 Thread Pierre Béland
Bing Imagery is available for this area. To be able to start mapping immediately,  I have created a Task Manager job for Zongo. We will have the opportunity to create other jobs later if necessary. See http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/218 Please map in detail.   Pierre >___

Re: [HOT] Announcing Heather Lesson's appointment to the Board

2013-03-24 Thread Kate Chapman
Congratulations Heather! I look forward to working with you in this different way! Best, -Kate On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Schuyler Erle wrote: > > On Mar 24, 2013, at 2:20 PM, Joseph Reeves wrote: >> >> On behalf of the HOT Board I'm pleased to announce that Heather Lesson has >> been a

Re: [HOT] Central African Republic: Bangui taken over today by the rebels

2013-03-24 Thread Séverin MENARD
Thanks, I updated the Wiki page Would be good is possible to make a French version of the job. I created a French page for the WIki project and the crisis, and informed the OSM-FR community, which is one of the most active. Severin On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:12 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: > Bing Im