Re: [HOT] Meeting of the Togo Support Team - July 2, 2013

2013-07-02 Thread Emir Hartato
Hello, Do you have any screenshot that shows the error during installation? Maybe we can help. Cheers. On Jul 3, 2013 6:50 AM, "Andrew Buck" wrote: > We have had our second meeting of the experimental support team assisting > the ground team in Togo. We plan to continue meeting once per day >

[HOT] Fwd: Life After Warfare: How a Digital Map Could Help Revive Mogadishu

2013-07-02 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
This looks of potential interest to the HOT community: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/06/fa_mogadishu/ Today the Somali capital is at peace, but decades of war destroyed its informational soul—the systems that keep data on tax collection, property ownership, road repair, and so on that let

[HOT] Meeting of the Togo Support Team - July 2, 2013

2013-07-02 Thread Andrew Buck
We have had our second meeting of the experimental support team assisting the ground team in Togo. We plan to continue meeting once per day continuing forward to keep the community informed of the situation on the ground. Even though the email about the first meeting yesterday was late in getting

Re: [HOT] Central African Republic import of WRI data

2013-07-02 Thread Pierre Béland
Ben I also forgot that for this specific case in CAR, we will use Bing and the Task Manager. I agree that this is a good approach to validate WRI imports against Bing. This is the best way to do it and try to reconcile the OSM and the WRI databases. This will also help to evaluate the quality o

Re: [HOT] Central African Republic import of WRI data

2013-07-02 Thread Andrew Buck
Oh, I forgot that the tasking manager was being used in this import. Since that allows us to track the progress of the import and easily keep track of what is not yet imported then I withdraw my previous objection to a partial import. My concern was mainly that we would "lose" some of the data si

[HOT] Meeting results from the Togo Support Team

2013-07-02 Thread Andrew Buck
Last night the Support team had our first meeting with the HOT ground team in Lomé, the capital city of Togo. Please see the “Announcing the Support Team Experiment” email thread for details of how this team will function. This email will be our first ‘report’ back to the community from meeting w

[HOT] Announcing the Support Team Experiment

2013-07-02 Thread Andrew Buck
This e-mail is to announce the creation of an experimental support team to work out better ways of communicating with, and assisting, our ground teams in developing countries. Currently HOT has ground teams training mappers and organizing mapping parties in developing countries all over the world,

Re: [HOT] Central African Republic import of WRI data

2013-07-02 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Hi, Many of these things have been discussed and considered. This is why we suggested this new way of using the tasking manager, the wri data and bing together and extract the useful data. The step of manually reviewing the wri data against the imagery and using it as a guide instead of a blind

[HOT] Possibly HOT relevant discussion of "operational_status" on tagging list

2013-07-02 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
There is a discussion on the "operational_status" tag on the tagging list, which is of relevance to the HOT efforts. Attached is a copy of one of the messages. I'm attempting to formalize use of an operational_status tag for domestic uses for pay phones, toilets and drinking water. But the HOT tea

Re: [HOT] Central African Republic import of WRI data

2013-07-02 Thread Pierre Béland
To my point of view, you should never import blankly. If its just a problem of accuracy, I agree that with a 200 meters error in a desertic area, it may still be helpful to import. But other then that, if we are not sure about the quality of the data, if the roads exist really, we should not imp

Re: [HOT] Central African Republic import of WRI data

2013-07-02 Thread Andrew Buck
I understand the 'bad data worse than no data argument' but I think that only goes so far. Having a road on the map that isn't terribly accurate is unlikely to cause major problems for people. Having a hospital where none exists could be a major problem, but for roads I think this is less of an i

Re: [HOT] Central African Republic import of WRI data

2013-07-02 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Andrew, Actually I agree, but I discussed this before with some other OSM/HOT people (It's been so long I don't remember when or who) and it was said that using inaccurate data might be worse than nothing. For the CAR specifically I think using the data might be better than not using it. There is

Re: [HOT] Central African Republic import of WRI data

2013-07-02 Thread Andrew Buck
Regarding areas with no imagery. I would still say to import the roads. A couple hundred meters off is a lot, but it is better to have the 'connectivity' mapped (i.e. what town connects to what other town) than to have nothing at all. Someone following the road in a car does not mind that their

Re: [HOT] Central African Republic import of WRI data

2013-07-02 Thread Ben Abelshausen
Hi, I'm also prepared to contribute to finish this task and improve the CAR-map. The WRI road-dataset isn't that big but it's not an easy task and still a lot of work. I'm not sure a few mappers will be enough but it would be nice to at least be able to start some work. I was just waiting on the

[HOT] Tech Chat Report Back

2013-07-02 Thread Mikel Maron
Hey everybody Had a good chat yesterday on #hot, focused on HOT tech. We did a go round with everyone sharing what they've been working on. Some good connections were made in the conversation, including sharing that UNHCR has forked and is using our work on humanitarian mapping styles (https://

[HOT] UN uses OSM as background map

2013-07-02 Thread Bob Kerr
Not sure if anyone else has seen this but I thought I would post. UN uses OSM(Mapquestopen) as background for Global Risk Data Platform http://preview.grid.unep.ch/index.php?preview=map&lang=eng___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.ope