Re: [HOT] Houses or buildings with no roof in W Africa mapping

2014-09-13 Thread Nick Allen
Blake, They could be both. When I asked the question a few months ago concerning similar structures elsewhere in Africa I was told that it can take a while for something to be built finished, but it can also be a case of something has become disused the roof removed. In either case, it

Re: [HOT] Houses or buildings with no roof in W Africa mapping

2014-09-13 Thread Courtland Yockey
When I trace something like this, I use the key-value landuse=construction. I also am in the habit of annotating traced objects with imagery date on the object, which is more useful for something like this than, for instance, doing so for travelways. --Courtland - Original Message -

Re: [HOT] Houses or buildings with no roof in W Africa mapping

2014-09-13 Thread Andrew Buck
For these I use building=constructuion. I think landuse=construction is for larger areas like a construction site where a large building or parking lot or something is being built. Adding the date is not a bad idea but probably not essential; doesn't hurt to add it though. -AndrewBuck On Sat,

Re: [HOT] Houses or buildings with no roof in W Africa mapping

2014-09-13 Thread Pierre BĂ©land
I am not sure that this construction tag helps us about the status of these houses. The imagery can be a few years old. Also from my experience in Haiti, people build rapidly the first floor and then start to mount walls for the second floor. But this can stay unchanged for years. UAV Imagery

Re: [HOT] Houses or buildings with no roof in W Africa mapping

2014-09-13 Thread AYTOUN RALPH
I have been putting these buildings in as building=construction but they can also be simply building=no_roof or barrier=wall to indicate that there is a structure there to help the people on the ground identify where they are and indicate that there is something there. It is not possible for

Re: [HOT] Houses or buildings with no roof in W Africa mapping

2014-09-13 Thread Blake Girardot
I agree with the idea of organizing some tagging conventions is important so our W. Africa mapping is consistent. And that conventions will vary by region. There really are not that many tags we use for 80-90% of what we map so we should be able to get them pretty consistent. I also agree

Re: [HOT] Houses or buildings with no roof in W Africa mapping

2014-09-13 Thread Blake Girardot
On 9/13/2014 12:59 PM, Charlotte Wolter wrote: Hi, Blake, I thought some of them were walled areas around buildings (common in urban areas). At any rate I did not trace them as buildings. However, it would be a good idea to have some examples in the wiki. Yes, they are hard to tease out,

Re: [HOT] Houses or buildings with no roof in W Africa mapping

2014-09-13 Thread Tom Taylor
My personal practice is to tag all such buildings as abandoned:building=yes. My reasoning is that uncovered walls will soon deteriorate, so the odds that this is a building under construction are low. Tom Taylor On 13/09/2014 12:44 AM, Blake Girardot wrote: Hi, New user supersonic3974 asked

Re: [HOT] Houses or buildings with no roof in W Africa mapping

2014-09-13 Thread Andrew Buck
We used to tag them like that however our thinking has evolved. I have seen at least one that is uncovered in old bing imagery but had a roof in newer imagery. Also Pierre has mentioned that in Haiti and elsewhere he has seen such buildings under construction for long periods of time. They may

Re: [HOT] Houses or buildings with no roof in W Africa mapping

2014-09-13 Thread Tom Taylor
Building=no_roof is certainly descriptive, with building=construction as my second choice. Preference? Tom Taylor On 13/09/2014 4:11 PM, Andrew Buck wrote: We used to tag them like that however our thinking has evolved. I have seen at least one that is uncovered in old bing imagery but had a

Re: [HOT] Houses or buildings with no roof in W Africa mapping

2014-09-13 Thread Yves
Tom, it's mostly building=yes if you don't know what kind of building it is. For the roof, we can maybe extend http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Simple_3D_Buildings ? On 13 septembre 2014 23:09:58 UTC+02:00, Tom Taylor tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com wrote: Building=no_roof is certainly

Re: [HOT] Houses or buildings with no roof in W Africa mapping

2014-09-13 Thread Andrew Buck
I really don't know, no roof is more descriptive but is not in the db. There is a roof=no tag that could be added as a second one but I think that implies something more permanent. I guess I would lean toward building=construction but I am not leaning very strongly. -AndrewBuck Sent from my

[HOT] Houses or buildings with no roof in W Africa mapping

2014-09-12 Thread Blake Girardot
Hi, New user supersonic3974 asked this question in irc last night but didn't get a reply: [22:45] supersonic3974 Hey, quick question. What are these things that look like buildings under construction? They seem to be everywhere. Here's an example: http://imgur.com/ccS03xv I have that

Re: [HOT] Houses or buildings with no roof in W Africa mapping

2014-09-12 Thread Alexander W. Janssen
Well, the documentation says that we have landuse=construction [1] and there's also an abandoned key [2]; however, I don't know what to do if one isn't sure if it's still under construction or already abandoned. I, for myself, didn't draw an outline for these buildings for the same reason as you