Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

2016-02-16 Thread Russell Deffner
: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:35 PM To: Russell Deffner Cc: Daniel Specht; hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process I think the classic that Daniel identified is map all roads. Does it mean highway=unclassified and above, everything

Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

2016-02-16 Thread john whelan
n – just trying to direct some action – it is on > the Activation WG Trello to ‘further utilize’ the tm mailing list, > training, etc. > > > > =Russ > > > > *From:* john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2016 7:19 AM >

Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

2016-02-16 Thread Russell Deffner
– it is on the Activation WG Trello to ‘further utilize’ the tm mailing list, training, etc. =Russ From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 7:19 AM To: Daniel Specht Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with

Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

2016-02-16 Thread john whelan
So to clarify what you're saying is the project instructions should be much more precise. The project managers should ask for precisely what is needed rather than we'd like everything since when we are imprecise different mappers and validators interpret the instructions differently. Also asking

Re: [HOT] How newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

2016-02-14 Thread john whelan
Working Group can > probably tell you more about that. > > > > In either case, I think there is plenty of room for improvement. > > > > Cheers, > > =Russ > > > > *From:* Nick Allen [mailto:nick.allen...@gmail.com > ] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 11,

Re: [HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

2016-02-12 Thread john whelan
I can't think of a case where a validator would need any special instructions for a project that aren't the same as supplied to a mapper. I feel there is a requirement for guidelines for validators but these are more general, and I've sent you a copy as a separate email since they haven't been tra

[HOT] how newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

2016-02-12 Thread Daniel Specht
> On 11 Feb 2016 15:49, "john whelan" > wrote: > > In there somewhere in a wiki or some such where we can document > validation, what works and why and what to look for? Perhaps put down > some sort of service level agreement ie after validation we are only > looking

Re: [HOT] How newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

2016-02-11 Thread Nick Allen
gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 9:19 AM *To:* john whelan *Cc:* HOT@openstreetmap.org *Subject:* Re: [HOT] How newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process There is a wiki article at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data It needs u

Re: [HOT] How newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

2016-02-11 Thread Russell Deffner
room for improvement. Cheers, =Russ From: Nick Allen [mailto:nick.allen...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 9:19 AM To: john whelan Cc: HOT@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [HOT] How newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process There is a wiki article at http

Re: [HOT] How newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

2016-02-11 Thread Nick Allen
There is a wiki article at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Tasking_Manager/Validating_data It needs updating. Nick (OSM=Tallguy) my phone is responsible for any spelling mistakes! On 11 Feb 2016 15:49, "john whelan" wrote: > In there somewhere in a wiki or some such where we can document

Re: [HOT] How newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

2016-02-11 Thread john whelan
In there somewhere in a wiki or some such where we can document validation, what works and why and what to look for? Perhaps put down some sort of service level agreement ie after validation we are only looking for what is requested in the instructions and for a JOSM validotian to be run. We expe

Re: [HOT] How newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

2016-02-11 Thread Jo
If such a volunteer becomes more confident after a while, they shouldn't hesitate to actually validate the task, if all was mapped well and they didn't have to add/change much. When I look at finished tiles, I start with the intention to validate it. If I have to do too much work on it, I will som

Re: [HOT] How newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

2016-02-11 Thread Blake Girardot
That is a good point John, if anyone does a second look to map in missing buildings in a "completed" task square you should leave a comment on the task square that says you looked over the completed task square and filled in all the missing buildings you could find. For sure it is not a wast

Re: [HOT] How newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

2016-02-11 Thread john whelan
I'm not sure this is the best use of our very limited number of mappers. Just scanning a tile takes time, so the optimum use of mapper time is to have them scan once when they map and have a validator scan once. For a productivity point of view its better to have new mappers split the tiles twice

[HOT] How newer mappers can help a lot with the validation process

2016-02-10 Thread Blake Girardot
Hi all, I just want to mention, that new mappers can really help with the validation process by doing what they typically do: Map in roads and buildings but into "Completed" task squares. You do not need to mark a task square "Validated", but just reviewing the completed squares and filling