[HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-24 Thread Daniel Specht
Lots of projects are mapped quickly, but validated slowly. This could be because (A) beginners don't feel qualified to pass judgement (B) people don't like to pass judgement (C) doing original work is more fun than reviewing someone else's work. I have a couple suggestions for encouraging valida

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-24 Thread Denis Carriere
Very good points you brought up Dan. I feel very strongly about the #2 point about adding a statistic for validators, it does take effort to browse the tiles properly. I sometimes end up adding a few missing buildings or landuse areas if they are only a few minor missing features. Hopefully those

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread Pierre GIRAUD
Hi Daniel, This makes much sense. Do you have a github account? If so, please create an issue and copy paste your message there. Pierre On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 2:51 AM, Daniel Specht wrote: > Lots of projects are mapped quickly, but validated slowly. This could be > because > (A) beginners don

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread Pierre Béland
: Mercredi 25 mars 2015 0h55 Objet : Re: [HOT] validating tiles Very good points you brought up Dan.I feel very strongly about the #2 point about adding a statistic for validators, it does take effort to browse the tiles properly. I sometimes end up adding a few missing buildings or landuse

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread john whelan
Tasking manager. See the recent discussion. > https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/545 > > > > Pierre > > -- > *De :* Denis Carriere > *À :* Daniel Specht > *Cc :* hot@openstreetmap.org > *Envoyé le :* Mercre

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread john whelan
propositions a few times on the Github >> isssues service for the Tasking manager. See the recent discussion. >> https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/545 >> >> >> >> Pierre >> >> ---------- >> *De :* Denis Carriere

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread Blake Girardot
This is kind of a very subtle point, but I have written about it before: I find it difficult to validate tiles because they so often need more work and are not really "done". That leaves me with these choices: 1. Do the mapping myself, which I usually do, but then I have less time for vali

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread James Conkling
'incomplete' instead of 'invalid'? I'll be honest, I've never validated a task b/c I thought you needed a certain level of 'certification' (even informally). On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Blake Girardot wrote: > > > This is kind of a very subtle point, but I have written about it before: >

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread john whelan
"Needs another look?" maybe, both incomplete and invalid are slightly negative. I like the idea of sending someone a more positive message when their tiles have been validated, could it include the comment by the validator? Cheerio John On 25 March 2015 at 11:27, James Conkling wrote: > 'incom

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread Pete Masters
It's an interesting discussion and one that we have fairly frequently. At the mapathons we run in London, whoever is doing the training is careful to make clear that volunteers should mark squares as done once they think they are done. They are reassured that when a validator goes over their mappi

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread Cristiano Giovando
I wonder if this has been discussed before - and I apologized if it has - would it be a viable idea to add a slider or a percentage drop down menu for the mapper to select the amount of work that still needs to be done for each task? This can be a subjective and rough estimate from the person worki

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread john whelan
And just to go off at a tangent has anyone thought about tapping into old people's homes? Some residents are mentally alert and it might help keep them amused. Not a full scale mapathon and you might even have to explain what a mouse is. Many will not have wifi, but JOSM can work off line and I

Re: [HOT] validating tiles

2015-03-25 Thread Charlotte Wolter
Hello, Cheers to Blake and Dan for articulating all I have been feeling about doing validations. I do think that new terminology is needed ("invalidated" -- ugh!). Why not just change it to "needs more mapping"? We don't need a single word. Also, it would be good to have a