[IAEP] OLPC Australia press release

2009-05-27 Thread Sean DALY
http://www.olpc.org.au/news/27May09.shtml See quote about school attendance. Here's an example where Sugar can bridge the gap between the disadvantaged indigenous communities of Australia and the more well-off children there; XOs with Sugar for the former (goal of 400,000), SoaS for the latter.

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] idea for consolidated Sugar feedback + a newname for our users

2009-05-27 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 06:15:03PM -0700, Kathy Pusztavari wrote: Bigs and Littles? -Kathy _ From: iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org [mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Caroline Meeks Another thought is Kid and

Re: [IAEP] OLPC Australia press release

2009-05-27 Thread Sean DALY
Here's a report that does mention Sugar: http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/304648/olpc_boosts_outback_education_laptop_deployment?fp=4fpid=1968336438 This one doesn't, but again, check the quote about school attendance:

[IAEP] Fwd: journal criticism (was Re: Re: Re: [RELEASE] TurtleArt-51)

2009-05-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
[forgot to add IAEP and sugar-devel] -- Forwarded message -- From: Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org Date: Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:11 Subject: journal criticism (was Re: Re: Re: [IAEP] [RELEASE] TurtleArt-51) To: fors...@ozonline.com.au Cc: Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] idea for consolidated Sugar feedback + a newname for our users

2009-05-27 Thread Martin Dengler
[age-related replacements for users] -1 Why limit ourselves? [Learner as a replacement for users] +0 I can't see any developer using this term easily[1]. Call the people who use a Sugar activity to learn/do/communicate either: People[a] who use[b] a Sugar activity to

Re: [IAEP] OLPC Australia press release

2009-05-27 Thread Martin Sevior
Congratulations everyone! I'm very proud be a part of this. It's wonderful to see disadvantaged children in my own Country benefit from our work. Martin Sevior On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 7:41 PM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a report that does mention Sugar:

[IAEP] Fwd: [SoaS] Important Schedule Changes - Please Read!

2009-05-27 Thread David Farning
Sorry, This thread fell off the public mailing list. My fingers are a little too big for the keyboard on my new lenovo s10. I keep hitting enter instead of shift:( david -- Forwarded message -- From: David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org Date: Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:43 AM

[IAEP] Fwd: [SoaS] Important Schedule Changes - Please Read!

2009-05-27 Thread David Farning
Sorry, This thread fell off the public mailing list. My fingers are a little too big for the keyboard on my new lenovo s10. I keep hitting enter instead of shift:( david -- Forwarded message -- From: David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org Date: Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:43 AM

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: [SoaS] Important Schedule Changes - Please Read!

2009-05-27 Thread Caroline Meeks
Hi, I think one possible place where we are having a miss communication is about what is Sugar on a Stick or SoaS. I think to Sean and I it is a solution that can be used in schools. It includes the code for the stick, a core set of activities that are known to work, stick backup, restore and

[IAEP] Help wanted remixing the Help Activity

2009-05-27 Thread Caroline Meeks
Hi, We'd like to update the Help Activity and have the ability to have different versions for OLPC-XOs and Sugar on a Stick, etc. Why is this important? - Shipping SoaS with the Sugar Manual included will help the user experience - Having a ? icon in the ring will help people want

Re: [IAEP] journal criticism (was Re: Re: Re: [RELEASE] TurtleArt-51)

2009-05-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 16:09, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: [snip] File turtle_art-51.xo from http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/downloads/file/26052/turtle_art-51.xo.; As soon as I

[IAEP] adding or updating an Activity: two typical teacher scenarios, let's lower barrier to installation

2009-05-27 Thread Sean DALY
Scenario 1: Let's say I'm a teacher reading about Sugar in a magazine. I consider myself comfortable with computers, visit the web every day, but have never used the command line. I've succeeded in downloading SoaS, loading it onto a stick with the Fedora LiveUSB Creator and booting my PC with

Re: [IAEP] adding or updating an Activity: two typical teacherscenarios, let's lower barrier to installation

2009-05-27 Thread Kathy Pusztavari
Sadly I've done number 1 when I first got my XO. It didn't take long for someone to tell me that you had to browse and download using the machine RUNNING sugar and that you had to go to Journal and run the install program. Once I figured that out it was relatively easy. Also seemed to work for

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] adding or updating an Activity: two typical teacher scenarios, let's lower barrier to installation

2009-05-27 Thread Walter Bender
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: Scenario 1: Let's say I'm a teacher reading about Sugar in a magazine. I consider myself comfortable with computers, visit the web every day, but have never used the command line. I've succeeded in downloading SoaS,

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] adding or updating an Activity: two typical teacher scenarios, let's lower barrier to installation

2009-05-27 Thread Sean DALY
Indeed that worked with SoaS on a netbook, the Activity arrived at the top of the favorites ring. I'll try with VirtualBox tomorrow (travelling). Who can update activities.sugarlabs.org with concise installation instructions? I can provide copy if that's helpful. thanks Sean On Wed, May

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC Australia press release

2009-05-27 Thread David Farning
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Sean DALY sdaly...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.olpc.org.au/news/27May09.shtml See quote about school attendance. Here's an example where Sugar can bridge the gap between the disadvantaged indigenous communities of Australia and the more well-off children

Re: [IAEP] adding or updating an Activity: two typical teacher scenarios, let's lower barrier to installation

2009-05-27 Thread Gary C Martin
On 27 May 2009, at 15:35, Sean DALY wrote: Scenario 1: Let's say I'm a teacher reading about Sugar in a magazine. I consider myself comfortable with computers, visit the web every day, but have never used the command line. I've succeeded in downloading SoaS, loading it onto a stick with the

[IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-27 Thread James Simmons
Tomeu, I've said this before, but maybe I can repeat it once more: 1). I like the idea of the Journal. I would not want to change the Journal proper to support putting items in hierarchies. 2). Having said that, I don't always like the Journal Activity. The biggest problem I have with it

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 19:34, James Simmons jim.simm...@walgreens.com wrote: Tomeu, I've said this before, but maybe I can repeat it once more: 1).  I like the idea of the Journal.  I would not want to change the Journal proper to support putting items in hierarchies. 2).  Having said

[IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-05-27

2009-05-27 Thread Walter Bender
===Sugar Digest === 1. Between yesterday's announcement of a major new deployment in Australia (Sugar running on the OLPC XO-1) to a flurry of smaller-scale, grassroots Sugar on a Stick deployments to the pick-up of Sugar by most of the upstream Linux distributions to the growing volume of

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-27 Thread Lucian Branescu
I'm new to Sugar, so I may be horribly wrong. But to me, the Journal seems more of an annoyance than anything else. A lot of the work I see done is towards bringing back some of the properties that regular filesystems have What advantage does it have as opposed to a regular filesystem with

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 20:20, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: I'm new to Sugar, so I may be horribly wrong. But to me, the Journal seems more of an annoyance than anything else. A lot of the work I see done is towards bringing back some of the properties that regular

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-27 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 20:39, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 20:20, Lucian Branescu lucian.brane...@gmail.com wrote: I'm new to Sugar, so I may be horribly wrong. But to me, the Journal seems more of an annoyance than anything else. A lot of the work I see

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-27 Thread Lucian Branescu
Right, that does make it a bit more clear. I feel however that there should be a way to mount the Journal as a regular filesystem without losing too much information (put stuff in folders according to labels, put activities in their own folder, etc.) 2009/5/27 Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org:

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-27 Thread James Simmons
Tomeu Vizoso wrote: 4). For the Journal proper, I agree that a temporal view has value. However, in addition to that I'd like to sort by the Title meta tag. This would be a natural for etexts, because you could look for a book more easily if they were all in alphabetical order. If you had a

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-27 Thread James Simmons
Lucian, Other than the criticisms I mentioned in my email, I like the Journal. Even after years of working with PCs I still find myself occasionally saving something to the hard drive, then wondering where I saved it. My parents probably won't ever really master working with hierarchical

Re: [IAEP] adding or updating an Activity: two typical teacher scenarios, let's lower barrier to installation

2009-05-27 Thread Martin Dengler
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 04:35:10PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote: Scenario 1: [soas] Scenario 2: [soas in virtualbox] [...] The Marketing Team can help write installation tips copy if necessary. I think it's obvious to most here but perhaps not to our audience: these scenarios are cases of the