Re: [IAEP] deployment feedback (was Re: [Sugar-devel] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11))

2009-08-16 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Tomeu Vizoso schrieb: > On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 03:39, Raul Gutierrez Segales > wrote: >> On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 15:06 -0400, Walter Bender wrote: >>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:17 PM, David Van Assche >>> wrote: >>> [snip] Or are you saying the feedback is getting through and I'm just not see

[IAEP] 2 new "full Installs"(.img and VMPlayer) available for Download

2009-08-16 Thread Thomas C Gilliard
Today I uploaded 2 compressed file and accompanying readme.txt's Both still require a 4GB USB Stick. They are both cleared of /.sugar ready to use on first boot. They are made with F11net install CD with ONLY Sugar-Desktop selected. This is all possible as sdziallas recently modified the Sugar-D

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

2009-08-16 Thread Paul Schulz
FYI.. (on topic?) See current related topic on slashdot. http://science.slashdot.org/story/09/08/16/189257/Simple-Portable-Physics-Simulations http://users.softlab.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/games.html Available under GPLv2, which isn't obvious from the website. On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Alan Kay wr

[IAEP] Weekly 4PM EDT Sun Support Mtg: Community Book Sprint - Mini Deployment Guide (Sept 6-11 in DC)

2009-08-16 Thread Holt
Tons of progress with over 30 very different people participating now-- nevermind the evening social events Mike Lee & all are organizing almost every night. This week's Call Conclusions / Forward Challenges: (A) People not familiar with Book Sprints should read why on earth we're each paying

Re: [IAEP] GPA ain't the world

2009-08-16 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Sean's point is important reminding us that when we talk of the Sugar user experience similar findings can be found on small deployments everywhere or in large deployments everywhere.. the differences are related to resources of hardware, electricity, networking and in general scalability of this r

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

2009-08-16 Thread K. K. Subramaniam
On Sunday 16 Aug 2009 9:42:39 am Bill Kerr wrote: > Is there are real danger of students getting the wrong idea about science > from using the physics program? I'm not really sure - some will, some won't > - but I think my students see it as a game type program rather than a > reality show. Their s

Re: [IAEP] Computer ClubHouse at the Boston Museum of Science

2009-08-16 Thread Mike Lee
One of these Computer Clubhouses is in Arlington, VA, not far from Sugar Labs DC. Maybe the Boston flagship can do an intro for us? Mike Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Sean DALY wrote: > This seems like a perfect fit! > > Sean > > > On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Carolin

Re: [IAEP] Computer ClubHouse at the Boston Museum of Science

2009-08-16 Thread Sean DALY
This seems like a perfect fit! Sean On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Caroline Meeks wrote: > http://www.computerclubhouse.org/ > The Computer Clubhouse is > an international network of computer centers for youth.  Their "flagship" clubhouse is housed in the Museum of Science in Boston > and they

Re: [IAEP] Physics Activity - Should we change the name

2009-08-16 Thread Alan Kay
Hi Caroline, And adults and children just love "being creative" and "expressing themselves". And, this is especially the case around the world when computers are introduced with applications that allow people to make things. So far so good. To continue one of the themes of this thread, let's l

[IAEP] Physics Activity - Should we change the name

2009-08-16 Thread Caroline Meeks
Sugar is blessed with a number of powerful activities that are platforms for open ended creativity. - Turtle Art - eToys - Tam Tam Suite - Scratch - FlipSticks I notice they all have names that under promise and don't set up rigid expectations. I think Physics could follow this na

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

2009-08-16 Thread Alan Kay
Bill and Tony, I simply ask that you ponder much more deeply on this issue. It's very important, and it also is part of the "helping people learn certain modern subjects" problem. Many of the people who have embraced the OLPC and XO and Sugar are using it for other means (contact with and use

Re: [IAEP] Reality is a crutch (was Re: Physics - Lesson plans ideas?)

2009-08-16 Thread Maria Droujkova
None of the numbers are "real world" - they are human-made representations of either something in the real world, or something else in some culture. Bridges between cultures and real world are built both ways. Imaginary numbers used to be purely cultural for a while, until bridges Cherlin mentions

[IAEP] Reality is a crutch (was Re: Physics - Lesson plans ideas?)

2009-08-16 Thread Edward Cherlin
On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 12:25 AM, wrote: > Alan > > We study complex numbers and transfinite numbers even though they aren't real > world. Root(-1) isn't real world but its a useful abstraction to study. This turns out not to be the case. Complex numbers are required in classical electricity and

Re: [IAEP] GPA ain't the world

2009-08-16 Thread Sean DALY
Just to clarify, when I spoke of studying a small deployment closely, I was thinking of both the GPA pilot and any other closely studied small deployment, which could be anywhere, including Nepal. Similar findings (e.g. first-time difficulty of quitting Activities?) in disparate conditions will be

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

2009-08-16 Thread forster
Alan You ask whether Bill's Physics Activity suggestions have anything to do with real science. You rightly point out that the Physics Activity is an imperfect simulation of the real world and just as mysterious. Certainly playing with the Physics Activity is not the best way to discover how th