I can understand why a teacher may not be interested in this discussion.
Still, the debate is also very relevant. It's about how we're going to
address your aunt's concerns.
The debate is definitely very relevant, and I'm glad we're having it.
Think of it this way: nobody wants to know how
There's a lot going on in this thread, so here is my attempt to
summarize discussions so far. If I've missed or misstated anything, my
apologies - and it's a wiki, so go fix it. ;-)
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Talk:Sugar_on_a_Stick
By my count, there are 4 things we need to decide on and then
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 06:41, Bill Bogstad bogs...@pobox.com wrote:
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
.
So, a possible solution could be calling the product marketed by SLs
Sugar on a Stick and each individual team and product Fedora Sugar
on a
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 06:49, Tabitha Roder tabi...@hrdnz.com wrote:
Anyway, as a muggle or someone with little information (a.k.a. the
public) I actually thought, could say was sure, eve, that Sugarlabs was
pushing SOaS as their flagship product, maybe SugarLive was there around
somewhere,
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 08:30, Mel Chua meta...@gmail.com wrote:
There's a lot going on in this thread, so here is my attempt to
summarize discussions so far. If I've missed or misstated anything, my
apologies - and it's a wiki, so go fix it. ;-)
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 09:56, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote:
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 09:34 +0200, Marten Vijn wrote:
Hi,
I am not a dyslexia expert, maybe a bit more that average.
idea 1
Today I read in a newspaper that it helps people
to let them hear what they (words not the
On Mon, 2009-09-21 at 12:17 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 09:56, Marten Vijn i...@martenvijn.nl wrote:
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 09:34 +0200, Marten Vijn wrote:
Hi,
I am not a dyslexia expert, maybe a bit more that average.
idea 1
Today I read in a newspaper that it
Caroline,
We have.
The teachers are excited. We haven't gotten to play so much with it yet, but
we will.
Gerald
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:13 AM, Caroline Meeks solutiongr...@gmail.comwrote:
I'm listening to the June 2009 podcast asking for a mindmap. Have you found
Labyrinth?
On Sun, Sep
On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 10:59:13PM +0200, Sean DALY wrote:
http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20090918110925298
http://lwn.net/Articles/353419/
http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2009/09/18/windows_seven_sins_ngos/
Also note that from yesterday morning on, the top Google News result
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 02:49:41PM -0500, David Farning wrote:
In some of the other threads we have been seeing an interest in the
Sugar Labs Community improving the Sugar experience on the XO. As
such, I would like to create a XO SIG within Sugar Labs. I have filed
an initial draft
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Martin Dengler
mar...@martindengler.com wrote:
Seems completely redundant with F11-on-XO and SoaS-on-XO (not to
mention debxo and probably others). I don't see how this is going to
do anything but cause fragmentation and confusion.
Maybe it is just a new name
Does anyone know how things get on the Sugar Labs Google Calendar? Are we
still using that?
Please invite anyone you know who might be interested in the Boston area.
Thanks!
-- Forwarded message --
From: Caroline Meeks carol...@solutiongrove.com
Date: Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 9:57 AM
On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
2009/9/21 David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org:
My idea is to start by getting a working version of the current
versions of Sugar and Fedora running on an XO. The SIG might lose
some of the specific hardware benefits and
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:06 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
The goal is to provide a place where the various people working
But there _are_ people working on this already, and they probably have
plans, priorities, etc.
Why don't we just let them do their thing? Are they asking
Marten,
I would like to introduce you to Marilyn Hagle (CCed). She is active
at the intersection of dyslexia and technology based education tools.
She has recently written a grant to set up a pilot for researching and
using sugar as a platform for helping kids overcome or adapt to their
El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 10:14 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso escribió:
Yes, the most obvious path is to be based on the next CentOS major
release, which in turn will be based on Fedora 11 (AFAIK).
Switching to other distros with LTS is of course possible but then it
will be most probably carried out
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 3:37 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 08:30, Mel Chua meta...@gmail.com wrote:
There's a lot going on in this thread, so here is my attempt to
summarize discussions so far. If I've missed or misstated anything, my
apologies - and it's
CCing iaep.
Your questions are good. As participants, we have hashed this over to
death:) But, our external message is still not spread widely enough:(
I will leave the questio open so we, as a community, can both help
answer your specific questions and figure out how to simplify and
amplify
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Caroline Meeks
carol...@solutiongrove.com wrote:
Does anyone know how things get on the Sugar Labs Google Calendar? Are we
still using that?
Some instructions are here,
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Events/Instructions.
(Requires mail.sugarlabs.org
For long-term security and support, we could adopt the Linux model: push
this concern down to the distributors and let them do a profitable
business out of it.
This creates a sustainable market for Sugar. Linux distributors who
have successfully built a reputation for offering good
Hi all,
as you may know, James Simmons has released two activities for
improving the reading experience:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4035
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4194
Maybe the OLPC-NZ team would like to give them a try and give
suggestions on
Gerald,
It is so good to see you!! How is the new year? I hope things are going well!!
Perhaps you can share some of your project ideas with the list (in case you
have not done it). I was thinking about the Cell project you did last year.
It is good to see you!!
Claudia
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009
Hi Marilyn,
What would your feature list be on a small (linux driven) laptop
in addition to mine?
- audiofeedback (hear what you type (per word basis))
- adapted lessons (multilanguage) for tipptrainer
http://freshmeat.net/projects/pingos_tipptrainer/
- may something thats enlarges the cursor
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El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 12:54 -0400, Bill Bogstad escribió:
I agree with your statement about security updates being what is
desired here However, you can have bugs elsewhere
in the stack which can cause problems even if all anyone ever runs
directly
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 19:25, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
[cc += mstone]
[cc -= everyone else]
El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 12:54 -0400, Bill Bogstad escribió:
I agree with your statement about security updates being what is
desired here However, you can have bugs elsewhere
in
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
[cc += mstone]
[cc -= everyone else]
El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 12:54 -0400, Bill Bogstad escribió:
I agree with your statement about security updates being what is
desired here However, you can have bugs elsewhere
Marten,
That is a good list.
Both of my children (ages 8 10) are dyslexic, plus I have about 15 dyslexic
high school students in my classes. Last March we bought an EeePC/Linux for
Hannah and started using it this year. You might have read this in an earlier
message, but Firefox is really
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure something like sugar which is (and should be) fast moving
mixes well with something like CentOS or its parent. At the beginning
of the v6 release cycle begins it will be fine but within 12 months
I'm sure
[trimmed some cc's - they are probably on these lists anyway]
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
Well it wasn't a royal pain if you didn't have to co-ordinate between
about 8 different parties. And most of the the latest releases were
in fact defined
El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 16:33 -0400, Bill Bogstad escribió:
The lack of good dependency reporting and version tracking for
Activities makes this difficult. Something like XO bundles could
work better for for some scenarios though.
If it were on me, I'd just ditch the XO bundle format and
Hi,
If it were on me, I'd just ditch the XO bundle format and use
native packages for each distro. Some are already being
packaged, and the Python distutils are capable of producing rpms
and debs with the same ease of our current setup.py scripts.
But then every child in Uruguay
I notice there has been more traffic about books! The teachers at the GPA
eye's light up when they heard about books and having the computer read
them. I need to figure out how to actually do that.
CAST is a potential source of books and also a potential way for volunteers
to create books. Its a
Hi Peter,
Its called PackageKit :-) See discussions from previously... And
with the good python bindings for it there shouldn't even be too
much work to add support for that into the control panel. And the
other massive advantage that PackageKit has is that it works with
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:37:52PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
Hi,
If it were on me, I'd just ditch the XO bundle format and use
native packages for each distro. Some are already being
packaged, and the Python distutils are capable of producing rpms
and debs with the same
Works great on my test computer at home with SoaS Strawberry. We'll test on
school computers.
How can the Special Ed/ESL teacher take documents she currently has in say
word or pdf and get them loaded into this activity so the kids can have them
read to them?
Thanks,
Caroline
On Mon, Sep 21,
Hi,
TBH I'm not 100% sure on that as I'm not a PackageKit developer
but I believe that is addressed by ConsoleKit and as its in use
on Fedora and I'm pretty sure Ubuntu and others (and I'm pretty
sure its an external dependency of gnome too) I'm sure that issue
has been
El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 17:28 -0400, Chris Ball escribió:
But then every child in Uruguay (plus other deployments that withhold
root from their users) would hate you 'cause they wouldn't be able to
install activities anymore. A solution that results in a significant
percentage of Sugar's
Caroline,
It should be pretty easy to convert documents from Word or PDF to a
format that Read Etexts can use, now that I have added support for
word wrapped text and RTF. In Word, do a Save As... from the File
menu and choose Plain Text. This option in Word 2003 gives you a
preview of what the
El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 17:15 -0500, Yamandu Ploskonka escribió:
Very good point you make. It gets complicated as the users - kids -
have not been shown they get it regarding giving their full name, age
and address and some even phone number, so it is unlikely they will deal
safely with
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 05:15:31PM -0500, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote:
Chris Ball wrote:
Hi,
TBH I'm not 100% sure on that as I'm not a PackageKit developer
but I believe that is addressed by ConsoleKit and as its in use
on Fedora and I'm pretty sure Ubuntu and others (and I'm
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:02:55PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
Hi,
If it were on me, I'd just ditch the XO bundle format and use
native packages for each distro. Some are already being
packaged, and the Python distutils are capable of producing rpms
and debs with the
El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 23:47 +0100, Martin Dengler escribió:
The whole point of Rainbow is that what I think you're talking about
isn't an issue, and it's encouraged that kids share Activities.
Eliminating this sharing ability is one of the problems with the
current rpm / PackageKit
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:54:09PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Martin Dengler
mar...@martindengler.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 05:15:31PM -0500, Yamandu Ploskonka wrote:
Chris Ball wrote:
Hi,
TBH I'm not 100% sure on that as I'm not a
El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 23:53 +0100, Martin Dengler escribió:
Well I meant precisely what I said (sorry to be pedantic). If one
replaces rpms with XO bundles, it's what we have now, and what I
think's being proposed to be replaced with rpm/PackageKit. Different
versions of Write for
Bernie Innocenti wrote:
Why would we care to have concurrent versions of the same activity for
different user accounts? Our computing model is inherently single-user.
LTSP. NFS with shared clients. Our computing model is not just OLPC.
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On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 07:01:13PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 23:47 +0100, Martin Dengler escribió:
The whole point of Rainbow is that what I think you're talking about
isn't an issue, and it's encouraged that kids share Activities.
Eliminating this sharing
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 07:06:44PM -0400, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
El Mon, 21-09-2009 a las 23:53 +0100, Martin Dengler escribió:
Well I meant precisely what I said (sorry to be pedantic). If one
replaces rpms with XO bundles, it's what we have now, and what I
think's being proposed to be
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi David,
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:48 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
For the past several months the OLPC/Sugar Labs ecosystem has been
getting requests to provide releases of more recent versions of
=== Sugar Digest ===
1. It was busy week: Simon, Aleksey, Sascha, and Tomeu have been
working around the clock on putting the finishing touches on the new
0.86 release of Sugar while Gary has been trying to keep pace with
testing and documentation. It is looking great. I kept busy too:
chacing a
Bernie Innocenti wrote:
How does, for instance, Gimp manage to work perfectly on *all* Linux
distributions? And how do all the other 19K packages in my distro
manage to find *exactly* all the dynamic libraries they need when they
are installed?
By having distinct packages built separately
2009/9/21 David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org:
The project is starting with work flow focused goals.
1. Create a team.
2. Create a release cycle.
3. Start cranking out releases each one better than the last.
The missing gap in the current Sugar- distro- XO workflow is that
CJB is working
2009/9/22 David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org:
Because of time restrictions, the F11 on XO effort seems to be
reactive. They take the output from cjb and the fedora packages and
create builds.
Is this a criticism? Are you proposing changing this?
I believe that the XO SIG could help
Ok - then the situation is this, then:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Talk%3ASugar_on_a_Stickdiff=37874oldid=37820
It looks like the SoaS team is unblocked - now all that remains is
for the SoaS team members to identify themselves (I'd suggest just
requesting and joining a separate
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