Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Journal prompts (was: Re: FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar)

2011-06-16 Thread Kevin Mark
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 08:16:23PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: > > > > So what we seem to be left with at this point is a system which tries to > > force users to add comments or tags even though there is very little > > incentive or supportive mechanisms to actually do much with that metadata. >

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro

2011-06-16 Thread Valerie Taylor
Don't get me wrong - what is being done is amazing. It is most important to support those who get it and need help as the primary use of time and resources. You only learn what you almost know. It will take valuable limited resources to educate those who are outside the scope of "almost knowing"

Re: [IAEP] Concrete feedback

2011-06-16 Thread Walter Bender
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:56 PM, wrote: >>Walter Bender wrote: >>The eventual transition to GNOME 3.0 and PYGI will make a big difference in >> our ability to support more interoperability as well. > -

Re: [IAEP] Concrete feedback

2011-06-16 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Walter Bender wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:56 PM,   wrote: >>>Walter Bender wrote: >>>The eventual transition to GNOME 3.0 and PYGI will make a big difference in >>> our ability to support more interoperability as well. >>

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Journal prompts (was: Re: FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar)

2011-06-16 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Kevin Mark wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 08:16:23PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: > >> > >> > So what we seem to be left with at this point is a system which tries to >> > force users to add comments or tags even though there is very little >> > incentive or supp

Re: [IAEP] FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar why would YOU want to?

2011-06-16 Thread Valerie Taylor
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:17 PM, wrote: > > Please put that up on the Replacing Textbooks server. Remixing is one of > the points of the program. Will do. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://l

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Journal prompts (was: Re: FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar)

2011-06-16 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 08:17:30AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Kevin Mark wrote: > > > As someone who is not versed in educational theory, I have tried to > > understand > > what intentions where put into Sugar. I have herd mention of > > Constructionism and

Re: [IAEP] Journal prompts (was: Re: [support-gang] FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar)

2011-06-16 Thread Walter Bender
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 10:21 PM, ana.cichero wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Christoph Derndorfer > wrote: >> >> Am 15.06.2011 18:12, schrieb Walter Bender: >> > All of that said, let me repeat an argument I made regarding the Sugar >> > Journal during the EduJam summit last month:

[IAEP] Years of beating doors...

2011-06-16 Thread nanonano
/>Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >.being upset at the existing situation does not help - /// Hi, Mikus: You are write, being upset don't help anybody. I didn't write here on the mails that I am "beating doors" from 2008... Maybe I am too ru

Re: [IAEP] Years of beating doors...

2011-06-16 Thread nanonano
/>Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >...if you learn to do it yourself, as many years as it takes you to learn. If you are waiting for Sugar/OLPC > to change, possibly years without end. ---/ Hi, Mikus: MAybe you don't know that here in Uruguay it i

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Olidata computers in Uruguay

2011-06-16 Thread Esteban Bordón
> > > One of the most noticeable source for incompatibilities seems to be > screen definition, 800x600 in the Olidata, and thus several Activities are > cropped, > Screen definition is 800x480 ... > > Ouch, quite a few Activity toolbars will likely overflow at 800x600 > (overflow widgets land in

Re: [IAEP] Concrete feedback

2011-06-16 Thread Frederick Grose
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:56 PM, wrote: > *{...} > * > ** *Concrete Feedback:* > > The journal is always full of garbage, hundreds of empty entries: *is > there a possibility to "CLEAN" the JOurnal?,* > >From the Journal item's detail view there is an 'Erase' (minus sign) button in the toolba

Re: [IAEP] Concrete feedback

2011-06-16 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Frederick Grose wrote: > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:56 PM, wrote: >> >> {...} >> >> >> >> Concrete Feedback: >> >> The journal is always full of garbage, hundreds of empty entries:  is >> there a possibility to "CLEAN" the JOurnal?, > > From the Journal item's deta

Re: [IAEP] Concrete feedback

2011-06-16 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 16.06.2011, at 12:52, Walter Bender wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Frederick Grose wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:56 PM, wrote: >>> >>> {...} >>> >>> >>> >>> Concrete Feedback: >>> >>> The journal is always full of garbage, hundreds of empty entries: is >>> there a poss

Re: [IAEP] Concrete feedback

2011-06-16 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Am 16.06.2011 21:52, schrieb Walter Bender: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Frederick Grose wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:56 PM, wrote: >>> {...} >>> >>> >>> >>> Concrete Feedback: >>> >>> The journal is always full of garbage, hundreds of empty entries: is >>> there a possibility to "C

Re: [IAEP] Concrete feedback

2011-06-16 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > Am 16.06.2011 21:52, schrieb Walter Bender: >> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Frederick Grose wrote: >>> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:56 PM, wrote: {...} Concrete Feedback: The journal is always full

Re: [IAEP] Concrete feedback

2011-06-16 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Am 16.06.2011 22:22, schrieb Walter Bender: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Christoph Derndorfer > wrote: >> Am 16.06.2011 21:52, schrieb Walter Bender: >>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Frederick Grose wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 2:56 PM, wrote: > {...} > > > >

Re: [IAEP] Concrete feedback

2011-06-16 Thread nanonano
/>Christoph Derndorfer wrote: >since Plan Ceibal is only in the progress of upgrading machines from 0.82 to 0.88 this could > explain why Paolo is still seeing these issues on an ongoing basis. --

Re: [IAEP] Concrete feedback

2011-06-16 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Am 16.06.2011 22:37, schrieb nanon...@mediagala.com: > />Christoph Derndorfer wrote: >>since Plan Ceibal is only in the progress of upgrading machines from > 0.82 to 0.88 this could >> explain why Paolo is still seeing these issues on an ongoing basis. >

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Olidata computers in Uruguay

2011-06-16 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hello Esteban (and all), It would be wonderful if you or someone else could write up some very easy to follow instructions for doing the screen scaling, in Spanish, for the teachers in Uruguay. Don't assume anything. Pretend the teacher is a total beginner (on the Olidata many will be). Make

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Journal prompts (was: Re: FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar)

2011-06-16 Thread mokurai
On Thu, June 16, 2011 8:17 am, Walter Bender wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Kevin Mark > wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 08:16:23PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: >> >>> > >>> > So what we seem to be left with at this point is a system which tries >>> to >>> > force users to add comment

[IAEP] A Fraction A Day

2011-06-16 Thread Steve Thomas
A small group of us are working on an OER for OLPCand have chosen the topic; Fractions Here is where we need your help: - - Identify Models of Fractions and how we can present these different models in concrete forms as a kind of Fraction

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Journal prompts (was: Re: FW: [OLPC Bolivia] No logro aprender Sugar / I cannot learn Sugar)

2011-06-16 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:21:53PM -0400, moku...@earthtreasury.org wrote: > On Thu, June 16, 2011 8:17 am, Walter Bender wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Kevin Mark > > wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 08:16:23PM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: > >> > >>> > > >>> > So what we seem to b