Re: [IAEP] users doing python in XOs

2012-12-02 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 10:08:07PM -0600, Yama Ploskonka wrote: If it is defunct, can we use binaries finally to optimize and speed up operation Using binaries is not what needs to be done. Rewriting each activity (that you want to speed up) is what you're saying needs to be done. That's a

[IAEP] Sugarized binaries? was Re: users doing python in XOs

2012-12-02 Thread Yama Ploskonka
Good points you raise. So let me follow up, question, is there someone currently I could follow up off list with experience in sugarizing binaries? It appears Tomeu was the expert... Also, nice Flossmanuals, but a bit beyond my current skills, and apparently still relies on yum

[IAEP] XO alumni become code developers

2012-12-02 Thread Yama Ploskonka
Let me stand up and rejoice that nowadays you need several hands to count XO alumni that went on to write code! Photographic evidence in the link that Flavio shares Flavio Danesse has been one of the game changers in this, mentoring a few at first, and now many more. Kids mostly use

Re: [IAEP] Sugarized binaries? was Re: users doing python in XOs

2012-12-02 Thread Martin Dengler
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 10:57:39AM -0600, Yama Ploskonka wrote: On 12/02/2012 08:13 AM, Martin Dengler wrote: On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 10:08:07PM -0600, Yama Ploskonka wrote: If it is defunct, can we use binaries finally to optimize and speed up operation Using binaries is not what needs to be

Re: [IAEP] Sugarized binaries? was Re: users doing python in XOs

2012-12-02 Thread Yama Ploskonka
Maybe there was a misunderstanding. I have no intention to rewrite Sugar activities. Thank you for your concern. No worry no more. I learned that my relevant target audience for Sugarizing RPMs, kids potential microcontroller developers in Uruguay, no longer are limited by the block Ceibal

Re: [IAEP] XO alumni become code developers

2012-12-02 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Hey Daniel, thanks a lot for the information, I'm really looking forward to hearing/reading about your experiences on this project. :-) Saludos, Christoph On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 9:42 PM, S. Daniel Francis fran...@sugarlabs.orgwrote: Hi, Just something I want to share about that event Flavio

[IAEP] OLPC

2012-12-02 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, The Saint Jacob school has one laptop per child in grades 4, 5, and 6. The teachers in the lower primary (K, grades 1, 2, and 3) want to use them for selected lessons. There needs to be a way for the work of each student who is sharing a laptop to be kept separate. In particular, the

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] OLPC

2012-12-02 Thread Yama Ploskonka
if they are accessing an HTML resource, the kid can have a cookie, or a CGI hidden field that gets passed in the URL as they call the resource. That would work like logging in into any webpage as we are used to do, hopefully done only once, and then kept as a cookie field. That would require

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] OLPC

2012-12-02 Thread James Cameron
That would not seem to control separation well. How easy would it be for another student to submit work on behalf of another, or corrupt existing work by accident? For a truly shared computer, I suggest switching to a login screen before Sugar, such as that provided by the default Fedora (before

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] OLPC

2012-12-02 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 03:53:32PM +1100, James Cameron wrote: For a truly shared computer, I suggest switching to a login screen before Sugar, such as that provided by the default Fedora (before OLPC OS removed it). I tried this just now on an XO-4 with 13.1.0 build 15, and was able to switch

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] OLPC

2012-12-02 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, You are probably right. This proposal, however, addresses the existing XO laptop and rather immediate needs. Specifically, the record of student activity in Sugar is the Journal. I forgot one point. When a different child uses the laptop, they should go to the XO icon where their name

Re: [IAEP] OLPC

2012-12-02 Thread Tony Anderson
Hi, Unfortunately this neat proposal doesn't address the Journal (nor my problem of delivering the correct educational content per the grade level of the user). On balance, the risk of work being done by one user in the name of another is probably not worth the 'screensaver' strategy. In

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] OLPC

2012-12-02 Thread James Cameron
On Mon, Dec 03, 2012 at 08:02:38AM +0200, Tony Anderson wrote: Unfortunately this neat proposal ... I'm confused. Which one? The use of a login screen, or the use of an SD card? doesn't address the Journal (nor my problem of delivering the correct educational content per the grade level of