Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-09 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3 Ian Do you think that the solution is to create a new and more narrow list which meets the needs of deployers and teachers or to narrow the scope of IAEP and moderate it to keep it within scope? My understanding

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-09 Thread Bert Freudenberg
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 4:35 AM To: Peter Robinson Cc: Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero; marketing; b...@alum.mit.edu; iaep Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3 On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:43

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi,   Linux has been running well on ARM for a long long time. Yeah.  In specific, today I got Sugar running on the ARM SoC we'll be using for XO-1.75 and XO-3, and it didn't require any porting at all. It would have

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-08 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi,   Linux has been running well on ARM for a long long time. Yeah.  In specific, today I got Sugar running on the ARM SoC we'll be using for

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-08 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi,   Linux has been running well on ARM for a long long time. Yeah.  

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-08 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Sayamindu Dasgupta sayami...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-08 Thread forster
[mailto:iaep-boun...@lists.sugarlabs.org] On Behalf Of Sayamindu Dasgupta Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 4:35 AM To: Peter Robinson Cc: Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero; marketing; b...@alum.mit.edu; iaep Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3 On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 9

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:56 PM, fors...@ozonline.com.au wrote: Do you think that the solution is to create a new and more narrow list No more lists please ;-) ! Move thread to d...@lists.laptop.org where it belongs ;-) Mostly the same crowd, but not quite. m -- martin.langh...@gmail.com

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-08 Thread Ian Thomson
...@ozonline.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:57 AM To: Ian Thomson Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3 Ian Do you think that the solution is to create a new and more narrow list which meets the needs of deployers and teachers or to narrow

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-08 Thread Outofindia
Coordinator SPC Phone +687 26 01 44 -Original Message- From: fors...@ozonline.com.au [mailto:fors...@ozonline.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 9:57 AM To: Ian Thomson Cc: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3 Ian Do

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-04 Thread Kevin Cole
I doubt I'm the first to ask... Any thoughts about accessibility and touch screens? Voice recognition? External keyboard / mouse (perhaps wireless)? Or just offer alternative inexpensive computers, SoaS, etc., recognizing that one size does not fit all? -- Kevin Cole Sugar Labs DC Washington,

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-04 Thread C. Scott Ananian
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Kevin Cole kjc...@dc.sugarlabs.org wrote: I doubt I'm the first to ask... Any thoughts about accessibility and touch screens?  Voice recognition?  External keyboard / mouse (perhaps wireless)? Or just offer alternative inexpensive computers, SoaS, etc.,

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-04 Thread Walter Bender
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:31 PM, C. Scott Ananian csc...@cscott.net wrote: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Kevin Cole kjc...@dc.sugarlabs.org wrote: I doubt I'm the first to ask... Any thoughts about accessibility and touch screens?  Voice recognition?  External keyboard / mouse (perhaps

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 17:52, John Tierney jtis4...@hotmail.com wrote: Thought this article would be of interest to the community. OLPC Rules out Windows for XO-3 http://www.networkworld.com/news/2010/052710-olpc-rules-out-windows-for.html Ed's mentions of Sugar, Sugar Labs and the Sugar

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 17:52, John Tierney jtis4...@hotmail.com wrote: Thought this article would be of interest to the community. OLPC Rules out Windows for XO-3

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 15:16, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 17:52, John Tierney jtis4...@hotmail.com wrote: Thought this article would be of interest to the community. OLPC Rules out

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 15:16, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 17:52, John Tierney jtis4...@hotmail.com wrote:

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:38, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 15:16, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote:

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:38, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 15:16, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 18:38, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Tomeu Vizoso to...@sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread C. Scott Ananian
I strongly encourage the Sugar team to consider rethinking the Sugar UI from the ground up for touch. The simple port is likely to yield a very unsatisfactory experience; fat fingers are just not precise pointing devices, and a lot of gestures which seem intuitive for a mouse don't really work

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
On 06/03/2010 01:45 PM, C. Scott Ananian wrote: My suggestion would be to first convene a ground up rethink of what a touch-based Sugar could be. ... The result should be a *book*, which describes the ideal UI. That will be the long term (think, next decade!) goals for Sugar. That's a

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Tim, As soon as I heard that OLPC was moving to ARM, I winced slightly. This is going to make life much more difficult, because of our longstanding Linux, Python and recent GNOME heritage. What is Sugar Labs' role with the XO-3+? I don't understand -- the XO-3 (and XO-1.5)

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread John Watlington
After spending some time with touch based devices, I have to agree with Scott. Yes, you can bolt on support for single touch to many activities, but doing a good job of supporting multitouch is typically a complete UI redesign. We are trying to get an accelerometer into the design as well as

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Tim McNamara
On 4 June 2010 09:07, Chris Ball c...@laptop.org wrote: Hi Tim, As soon as I heard that OLPC was moving to ARM, I winced slightly. This is going to make life much more difficult, because of our longstanding Linux, Python and recent GNOME heritage. What is Sugar Labs' role with

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Chris Ball
Hi, Linux has been running well on ARM for a long long time. Yeah. In specific, today I got Sugar running on the ARM SoC we'll be using for XO-1.75 and XO-3, and it didn't require any porting at all. It would have happened yesterday, but I had to work out how to get past the Sugar

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows for XO-3

2010-06-03 Thread Caryl Bigenho
Hi All... See comment/question below Caryl From: w...@laptop.org Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 17:27:12 -0400 To: csc...@cscott.net CC: market...@lists.sugarlabs.org; to...@sugarlabs.org; iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org; raf...@sugarlabs.org Subject: Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] OLPC rules out Windows