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To: kksubbu...@gmail.com
Cc: Cherry Withers ; Tim McNamara
; danielgast...@yahoo.com.ar; Dr. Gerald Ardito
; Steve Thomas ;
iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org
Sent: Tue, September 28, 2010 5:45:39 AM
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Etoys, is it difficult or easy?
Interesting
More on visual
Interesting
More on visual and text programming languages
http://www98.griffith.edu.au/dspace/bitstream/10072/24250/1/52212_1.pdf
Tony
Quoting "K. K. Subramaniam" :
> On Tuesday 28 Sep 2010 2:59:57 am Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote:
>> The 5th graders took pretty well to Etoys. It is the drawing piece
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> *From:* Dr. Gerald Ardito
> *To:* Alan Kay
> *Cc:* Caroline Meeks ; Cherry Withers <
> cwith...@ekindling.org>; danielgast...@yahoo.com.ar; Tim McNamara <
> paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz>; Steve Thomas ; iaep <
> iaep@lists.sugarlabs
On Tuesday 28 Sep 2010 2:59:57 am Dr. Gerald Ardito wrote:
> The 5th graders took pretty well to Etoys. It is the drawing piece that
> hooks them, and then the scripting part that really challenges them. And
> the 7th and 8th graders love Scratch. It is interesting to me because they
> also do plen
: Dr. Gerald Ardito
>To: Alan Kay
>Cc: Caroline Meeks ; Cherry Withers
>; danielgast...@yahoo.com.ar; Tim McNamara
>; Steve Thomas ; iaep
>
>Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 4:31:13 PM
>
>Subject: Re: [IAEP] Etoys, is it difficult or easy?
>
>
>Alan,
>
>Fi
teach all of them in mass.
> >>
> >> So you might be seeing artifacts of pedagogical approach here (and a lot
> >> of "challenged" students result from such artifacts).
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> Alan
> >>
> >> ___
ne Meeks ; Cherry Withers <
> cwith...@ekindling.org>; danielgast...@yahoo.com.ar; Tim McNamara <
> paperl...@timmcnamara.co.nz>; Steve Thomas ; iaep <
> iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org>
> *Sent:* Mon, September 27, 2010 4:31:13 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] Etoys, is it
mass.
>>
>> So you might be seeing artifacts of pedagogical approach here (and a lot
>> of "challenged" students result from such artifacts).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> ____________
>> From: Dr. Gerald Ardito
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From: Caroline Meeks
To: Dr. Gerald Ardito
Cc: Alan Kay ; Cherry Withers ;
danielgast...@yahoo.com.ar; Tim McNamara ; Steve
Thomas ; iaep
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 4:46:45 PM
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Etoys, is it difficult or easy?
First let me say that based on
2010 4:31:13 PM
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Etoys, is it difficult or easy?
Alan,
First, I just want to clarify that I meant "challenged" in a positive way. The
5th graders dove into Etoys first through painting, and then through scripting.
However, I agree with what you say about artifacts of a
to teach all of them in mass.
>>
>> So you might be seeing artifacts of pedagogical approach here (and a lot
>> of "challenged" students result from such artifacts).
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Dr.
; danielgast...@yahoo.com.ar;
> Tim McNamara ; Steve Thomas <
> stevesar...@gmail.com>; iaep
> *Sent:* Mon, September 27, 2010 2:29:57 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [IAEP] Etoys, is it difficult or easy?
>
> Caroline,
>
> You are remembering well. And I agree with your hypothe
and a lot of
"challenged" students result from such artifacts).
Cheers,
Alan
From: Dr. Gerald Ardito
To: Caroline Meeks
Cc: Cherry Withers ; danielgast...@yahoo.com.ar; Tim
McNamara ; Steve Thomas ;
iaep
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 2:29:57
Caroline,
You are remembering well. And I agree with your hypothesis.
The 5th graders took pretty well to Etoys. It is the drawing piece that
hooks them, and then the scripting part that really challenges them. And the
7th and 8th graders love Scratch. It is interesting to me because they also
do
t: Re: [IAEP] Etoys, is it difficult or easy?
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Alan Kay wrote:
> Hi Caroline,
>
> I think this is a good observation. And it's interesting because Etoys and
> Scratch were both done on top of Squeak, and by some of the same people.
> Originally Etoys
regards.
-walter
>
> There is much to be learned from both systems.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> From: Caroline Meeks
> To: Edward Cherlin
> Cc: Cherry Withers ; Tim McNamara
> ; danielgast...@yahoo.com.ar; Gerald
m both systems.
Cheers,
Alan
From: Caroline Meeks
To: Edward Cherlin
Cc: Cherry Withers ; Tim McNamara
; danielgast...@yahoo.com.ar; Gerald Ardito
; Steve Thomas ; iaep
Sent: Mon, September 27, 2010 9:21:16 AM
Subject: Re: [IAEP] Etoys, is it difficult or easy?
Gerald did s
Gerald did some interesting work last year introducing both Scratch and
eToys to 5th and 8th graders.
Gerald please correct me if I am misremembering.
I think the results were the 8th graders took to Scratch more and the 5th
graders took to eToys more.
Our hypothesis is that the first thing you
OK, I'll send it to you separately. Anybody else is still welcome to join in.
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 20:47, Steve Thomas wrote:
> Edward,
> Thanks, please send me the outline and what you think needs to be more
> "easily discoverable" and I will work on it.
> Stephen
>
> On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at
Edward,
Thanks, please send me the outline and what you think needs to be more
"easily discoverable" and I will work on it.
Stephen
On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Edward Cherlin wrote:
> It is true that you can do all of these things in EToys, if you know
> where to start. It is also true th
It is true that you can do all of these things in EToys, if you know
where to start. It is also true that the start screen of EToys could
be improved by providing a path to each of them, and to other
education modules, and Etoys could be improved with a few more
introductory modules.
Since childre
The analogy doesn't quite fit, as it's possible to do complex things in all
of those tools and it's easy to do simple things in EToys. Each Activity can
be used in this learning model, e.g. training wheels to motorbike.
Tim
On 25 September 2010 05:48, Cherry Withers wrote:
> And Scratch? ... do
Just want to share this email from Daniel Gastelu, translated by Carlos
Rabassa. Thank you!
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Just translated a message, from the spanish language forum OLPC-Urug
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