Re: [IAEP] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)

2009-08-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 20:17, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying... all I said was we need more data from the field Well, I also understood that you said that it wasn't obvious enough. Which surprised me after all the noise lately

Re: [IAEP] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)

2009-08-14 Thread David Van Assche
Ok, I think what's happening here is a breakdown in communication. When I used the term obvious, I was talking about Christoph's email... I was stating that perhaps the message, as I understood it, was that we need more data from the field... and that _the message_ was not obvious enough in the

Re: [IAEP] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)

2009-08-14 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 17:12, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I think what's happening here is a breakdown in communication. When I used the term obvious, I was talking about Christoph's email... I was stating that perhaps the message, as I understood it, was that we need more

[IAEP] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)

2009-08-13 Thread Christoph Derndorfer
Sean DALY schrieb: IMHO, close study of small deployments makes them incredibly useful to all teachers and Learners. The observations and take-aways need to be triaged of course, starting with what can/should be done by Sugar Labs, but I am convinced many learnings will benefit large

Re: [IAEP] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)

2009-08-13 Thread Walter Bender
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Christoph Derndorfere0425...@student.tuwien.ac.at wrote: Sean DALY schrieb: IMHO, close study of small deployments makes them incredibly useful to all teachers and Learners. The observations and take-aways need to be triaged of course, starting with what

Re: [IAEP] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)

2009-08-13 Thread David Van Assche
H... I have to agree with Christoph here. I didn't really see it as being dramatic at all, but quite factual in fact. The western small deployments really don't give us any useful stats on what is happening on a larger scale in the third world. And its important to acknowledge the differences

Re: [IAEP] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)

2009-08-13 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 15:51, David Van Asschedvanass...@gmail.com wrote: H... I have to agree with Christoph here. I didn't really see it as being dramatic at all, but quite factual in fact. The western small deployments really don't give us any useful stats on what is happening on a

Re: [IAEP] GPA ain't the world (was: [Sugar-news] Sugar Digest 2009-08-11)

2009-08-13 Thread David Van Assche
I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying... all I said was we need more data from the field I am in no way blaming anyone for not getting feedback, on the contrary, I am frustrated that the calls for feediback are not being heard enoguh, and I am well aware of people's efforts to try and