Re: MVCIN instruction

2005-10-22 Thread Leonard Woren
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 08:40:53PM -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > The last couple of funky spec manuals in which I saw instruction > timings were absolutely laden with special cases. Were IBM to publish > one for the z9, it would make strong men weep. I'm not surpris

Re: DSNAME Standards

2005-10-22 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Gerhard Postpischil wrote: At my installations we handled vendor products by: [snip] There seems to be some confusion about what's been proposed in this thread. Paul Gilmarten's comments -- inspired by my observation that, unlike ISPF, TSO EDIT does not require a "slew" of data sets allocat

Re: MVCIN instruction

2005-10-22 Thread Leonard Woren
On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 12:23:39AM -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > When I was a programmer working on the Intercomm Teleprocessing > Monitor product, I wrote the routine that allowed the Archive to be > read backwards not only from Tape but DASD. It was fun to wrote the > code to allow the D

Re: DSNAME Standards

2005-10-22 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Thomas Berg wrote: And how do You solve the situation when the vendor have their own macros they want to have in maclib (and doesn't supply their own lib) that overwrites previously existing macors (if we would choose to install as instrucyed) ? Or when you have several different version that Y

DISP=MOD UNIT=CART/TAPE

2005-10-22 Thread Glenn Miller
Has anyone encountered either of the following two situations recently ( say the last 6 months or so )? IEC023I 237-08,IFG0553F IEC140I ddname ,vv END OF DATA SET NOT ON VOLUME IEFTMS50 1XX- 08 jobname,stepname ,ddname ,ccuu,vv IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=1EB R

Re: Alternate home for zOS FTP Client ...?

2005-10-22 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Sort of. If you are using static VIPA and have SOURCEVIPA specified, then the outbound source address will be the last VIPA address specified before a real interface. Example: OSA1 10.1.1.1 OSA2 10.1.2.1 VIPA1 10.100.1.1 OSA3 10.1.3.1 OSA4 10.1.4.1 VIAP2 10.200.1.1 OSA5 10.1.5.1 OSA6

Re: Leased Line IBMLink Going Away?

2005-10-22 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Yep, that exactly what it mean. Depends on what your companies other leased line applciation are. But in the long run most likely. AT&T is migrating everything off of the old SNA network on to their MPLS network, Internet, or Frame Relay. Unless of course you build your own and just lease th

Re: DSNAME Standards (was: Re: TSO EDIT command)

2005-10-22 Thread Ed Gould
On Oct 22, 2005, at 4:32 PM, ibm-main wrote: Another of gils lunatic flights of fancy. Allow the ISVs to insist on dataset naming standards . And SMPE zone structure next no doubt ???. Like hell. Shane, Its being done already (and for quite a few years). An Hospital company (that suppli

Re: WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Ed Gould
On Oct 22, 2005, at 2:09 PM, Ed Finnell wrote: In a message dated 10/22/2005 1:17:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An alternative explanation, for those who believe in such things, is that we have some sort of "psychic connection". ;-) Probably need a new numb

Re: DSNAME Standards (was: Re: TSO EDIT command)

2005-10-22 Thread ibm-main
Another of gils lunatic flights of fancy. Allow the ISVs to insist on dataset naming standards . And SMPE zone structure next no doubt ???. Like hell. Pull your head in Paul - get the documentation generic enough to be useful. Let us manange our sites so we can get real work done. Programmers

Re: Leased Line IBMLink Going Away?

2005-10-22 Thread Andy White
Im also wondering how would I RSF if I need to with IBM? Andy S White Internet: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Brian Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "IBM Mainframe Discussion List" 10/22/2005 04:02 PM Please respond to "IBM Mainframe Discussion List" To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.ED

Re: Leased Line IBMLink Going Away?

2005-10-22 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Brian Peterson wrote: Does anyone out there know about this? This announcement appears on the IBMLink Main Menu when you press PF2 to display NEWS: _ | NEWSScrolling is active. Press CANCEL to exit. | ATTENTION: IBMLink Customers |

Max. number of CFs

2005-10-22 Thread R.S.
What is maximum number of Coupling Facilities used by one sysplex ? I know it's rather theoretical limit, but I'd like to know it. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructio

Leased Line IBMLink Going Away?

2005-10-22 Thread Brian Peterson
Does anyone out there know about this? This announcement appears on the IBMLink Main Menu when you press PF2 to display NEWS: _ | NEWSScrolling is active. Press CANCEL to exit. | ATTENTION: IBMLink Customers |

Re: WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 10/22/2005 1:17:38 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An alternative explanation, for those who believe in such things, is that we have some sort of "psychic connection". ;-) >> Probably need a new number for psychic friends Help Desk. 'I've got a

Re: DSNAME Standards

2005-10-22 Thread Thomas Berg
I don't quite understand You: == Paul Gilmartin == wrote2005-10-22 17:28: In a recent note, Edward E. Jaffe said: Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:56:06 -0700 Sounds like I'm in the minority here, but I like the approach of using EDIT for basic editing in the environment you'

Re: WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Dave Salt
From: "Edward E. Jaffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An alternative explanation, for those who believe in such things, is that we have some sort of "psychic connection". ;-) Is that in any way similar to a workstation connection, or are they 2 different things? :-) Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - The

Re: WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Dave Salt wrote: Ed, I can't believe it. I wrote my response about the WSA (and even renamed the subject to 'WSA versus ISPGUI') before reading your response. Our comments about the WSA being confused with ISPGUI were almost identical! That's what generally happens when you state obvious

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Dave Salt
From: Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Still wondering: is WSA the same as ISPGUI? No, they're 2 completely different things. ISPGUI requires the WSA, just like WordPad requires Windows. But that doesn't make them the same. Dave Salt SimpList(tm) - The easiest, most powerful way to surf a m

Re: WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Dave Salt
From: "Edward E. Jaffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Your idea of passing 327x streams to a socket is weak compared to what WSA already does. You're making the classic mistake of confusing the WSA (Workstation Agent) with the ISPF GUI. The ISPF GUI is just one component of the WSA. Other capabilities o

WSA versus ISPGUI (was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Dave Salt
From: Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2. Bring WSA back from the dead and fix it. > Is this the dreaded ISPGUI? The ISPGUI window was just plain ugly. Gil, In my opinion, the ISPF WorkStation Agent (WSA) is brilliant, but I agree with you that ISPGUI leaves much to be desired. Unfortuna

Re: ISPF WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Edward E. Jaffe said: > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:19:29 -0700 > > In a fairly recent conversation on this subject, the ISPF development > team in OZ suggested that if I had specific requirements for WSA, they > would be interested to hear what they were. > Still wonderi

WSA (Was: TN3270 Emulator)

2005-10-22 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Paul Gilmartin wrote: In a recent note, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" said: 2. Bring WSA back from the dead and fix it. Is this the dreaded ISPGUI? I'd favor an approach which writes classic 327x data streams to a socket, and instructions for modifying an open-source x3270 client to fun

Re: TN3270 Emulator

2005-10-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" said: > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:00:40 -0300 > > >Kludgey, but how about: > > Bletch! There are cleaner ways to handle it: > See above. > 1. Use explicit partitions > Would this support concurrent sessions with different active TIOTs? >

DSNAME Standards (was: Re: TSO EDIT command)

2005-10-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Edward E. Jaffe said: > Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 09:56:06 -0700 > > Sounds like I'm in the minority here, but I like the approach of using > EDIT for basic editing in the environment you've described. EDIT is > simple, doesn't require a slew of pre-allocated data sets [who