Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-09 Thread Gibney, Dave
You've gotten good advice so far. It's important to be able to read and understand the books. That's Redbooks and Manuals. Check out Softcopy Librarian. All the z/OS manuals for the current release fit nicely on a typical laptop hard drive. Don't let those current mainframe greybeards get

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
All operating systems are fundamentally different! I disagree! All transactions consume some portion of CPU, occupy memory, and have an I/O, Network an Print component. There are many disciplines that are transferable from one platform to another: Capacity Planning Performance Management

IBM site down?

2006-04-09 Thread Steve Comstock
I've tried to reach about 4 or 5 different pages on the IBM website, and each request is getting the message The page you requested cannot be displayed. Most of these pages I visited only yesterday. I am able to get to the home page, though. The pages I can't seem to find are all related to

Re: ac#cmd

2006-04-09 Thread Chris Mason
Luis, When I saw your post - for the second time - I hadn't a clue. But I asked Google and Google told me the following: quote The Cisco IOS for S/390 command class is AC#CMD. Cisco IOS for S/390 uses the SAF interface for general resource class checking. /quote This was found on a page with

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Ted MacNEIL said: Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 00:00:00 GMT SNA does everything it can to make sure that any data traversing the network is r eceived by the desired recipient. The philosphy is, if you send data, somebody wants to receive it. TCP/IP will drop packets if

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-09 Thread Chris Mason
Paul, As I'm sure you'll recall, SNA is connection-oriented (at least until HPR came along when it got an infusion of very controlled connectionless). A consequence of connection-oriented is that reliability is assigned, in the first instance[1], to the link entity which sits between the adjacent

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Accidents happen. At the IP layer, yes, packets can be dropped. I can re-create a situation, using scripts for a terminal emulator, where packets are always going to be dropped (and not recovered). I can even re-create it manually, if I type fast enough. The same script never causes a problem

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-09 Thread Sebastian Welton
On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:13:43 -0400, Aaron Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am reasonably competent with Perl, and I have looked over some C, although Thats a good start and to really help you in the mainframe arean I would suggest then to learn REXX which with the above noted skills will

Re: ac#cmd

2006-04-09 Thread Roy Hewitt
Chris Mason wrote: Luis, When I saw your post - for the second time - I hadn't a clue. But I asked Google and Google told me the following: quote The Cisco IOS for S/390 command class is AC#CMD. Cisco IOS for S/390 uses the SAF interface for general resource class checking. /quote This was

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 11:43:35 -0500, Sebastian Welton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 09:13:43 -0400, Aaron Peterson [log in to unmask] reasonably competent with Perl, and I have looked over some C, although Thats a good start and to really help you in the mainframe arean I would

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
anguish of JCL. As a mainframe bigot, //FILE DD DSN=X,DISP=SHR still makes more sense than: ls -l | cat | grep uid | wc -c - -teD O-KAY! BLUE! JAYS! Let's PLAY! BALL! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: anguish of JCL. As a mainframe bigot, //FILE DD DSN=X,DISP=SHR still makes more sense than: ls -l | cat | grep uid | wc -c o The cat is superflous; added presumably only to cast the UNIX command structure in an

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Accidents happen. At the IP layer, yes, packets can be dropped. I can re-create a situation, using scripts for a terminal emulator, where packets are always goi ng to be dropped (and not recovered). I can even re-create

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-09 Thread Ed Gould
On Apr 9, 2006, at 3:37 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: --- SNIP--- ... But here's my favorite: cp old.file new.file Versus: //NAME JOB stuff,stuff,more-stuff //STEP EXEC PGM=IEBGENER //SYSPRINT DD

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-09 Thread Ted MacNEIL
cp old.file new.file Comparing JCL to *NIX commands? What about TSO commands: copy old.file new.file That's a fairer comparison. - -teD O-KAY! BLUE! JAYS! Let's PLAY! BALL! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Ted MacNEIL said: Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 00:00:00 GMT cp old.file new.file Comparing JCL to *NIX commands? What about TSO commands: copy old.file new.file That's a fairer comparison. I believe the topic was JCL. (At least those were the two

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-09 Thread Ed Gould
On Apr 10, 2006, at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: cp old.file new.file Comparing JCL to *NIX commands? What about TSO commands: copy old.file new.file That's a fairer comparison. Ted: True but the good old TSO command is not supported anymore (if it ever was). I am not sure you

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-09 Thread Ed Gould
On Apr 9, 2006, at 9:30 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote ---SNIP- //STEP EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,DYNAMNBR=whatever //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=(,) //SYSTSIN DD * copy old.file new.file Agreed, a sight improvement. But I tried it and got:

Re: IBM manuals (was Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS)

2006-04-09 Thread Kent Ramsay
The Binder is described in the z/OS VxRx.x MVS Program Management books, the User's guide and the one on Advanced Facilities. But you're right, the old names were easier to remember. Kent Kent Ramsay Senior System Programmer, SRDC P 425.564.9735 | F 425.564.9701 | C 425.681.2278

Re: MVS Batchpipes Pipe Works

2006-04-09 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Thu, 6 Apr 2006 20:30:34 -0400, Warner Mach wrote: Dear List: . We have a vendor program that produces various records at a fixed blksize. It is necessary to reformat these blocks into smaller recsize/blksize. We do this with a long set of IEBGENER jobs. It would appear that 'MVS

WebSphere task monitor

2006-04-09 Thread Lin C
We are using WebSphere Application Server V 4.0.1 on OS/390 V2R10. Occasionally, the WAS looped and consumed CPU to 100%. So that other application cannot run at the time. This can be solved by cancelling WAS and restart it. I think this is caused by the incorrect application tested in WAS. But

Re: Migrating me from linux/bsd to zOS

2006-04-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Ed Gould said: Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 22:13:44 -0500 On Apr 10, 2006, at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: copy old.file new.file True but the good old TSO command is not supported anymore (if it ever was). I am not sure you can even order it from IBM. Is this the