Found this in my notes, that might be helpful. Probably got this from
IBM-MAIN at some time in the past...
Changing SC/MC/SG of an existing dataset at rename – This can be a
problem, in that rename can result in a dataset having the "wrong"
SC/MC/SG, eg a dataset that is now Production that wa
On Jun 7, 2006, at 4:11 PM, McKown, John wrote:
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SNIP--
Ed,
z/OS 1.6 does redrive management class ACS routines on a RENAME. But
none of the others. I know because I just tested it with a WRITE
statement in each ACS routine with t
On Jun 7, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Chase, John wrote:
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In a few years of doing this kind of stuff, I think the only
absolute I could think of is: 'There are absolutely no
absolutes'. ;-)
On second thought, per
Richard
Thanks for the "heads-up".
This is a new OSA microcode/CS SNA(VTAM)/CS IP function introduced as
microcode updates (I guess) and APARs in the z/OS V1R6 timeframe. Hence it
is mentioned in the z/OS V1R7.0 Communications Server New Function Summary
manual. It is described in section 2.2.6.2
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at 07:29 AM, Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>If they are renamed with ALTER ... NEWNAME, they will stay in the
>same catalog. TSO or ISPF rename will recatalog them in the correct
>catalog.
Isn't TSO RENAME an ALTER RENAME under the covers? I beli
why not go to z2 mode?
that's been available for quite awhile now
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we are installing z/OS V1 R7 and we want to run the JES
>
> That's why I don't subscribe to the notion that "development"
> data is less important than production data. Especially in a D/R
> environment. When stuff breaks and you have to go to D/R, which
> production systems will need to be fixed?
We have procedures in place to allow logon to Prod LP
>BTW, Wikipedia thinks there are only 6.5 billion folks, but that is neither
>here nor there.
Wikipedia is not necessarilly the best source.
I think we topped 7B, late last year.
PS: 90% of all statistics are made up on the spot!
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Not only is it a good idea
Chris Mason wrote:
> Richard,
>
> What you are suggesting the OSA does would, I think, require too much
> information needing to be passed to the OSA. The OSA manuals already make a
> fuss over ARP offloading - which is, in any case, necessary for the "ARP
> takeover" trick. I'd expect a similar f
It doesn't make practical sense to expect a rename to move a dataset
from one volume or pool to another. Think of the response time for small
datasets and the huge time for that multi-volume database container file
that you decide to rename for some insane purpose.
Letting the ACS routine change
All Adam's and all Noah's children. Adds up to a lot.
But, back to MIPS.
It's a plural of an acronym: Misleading Indicator of Performance
\jc
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>Well, my note was sloppy. I'm sure I've heard the 1/3 statistic but I
d
Well, my note was sloppy. I'm sure I've heard the 1/3 statistic but I don't
have a source. What's your source for the 70 billion?
BTW, Wikipedia thinks there are only 6.5 billion folks, but that is neither
here nor there.
Charles
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>
> On Jun 7, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Perryman, Brian wrote:
>
> > Hi folks
> >
> > So
Jeffrey D. Smith wrote:
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One-third of all people who ever lived hav
Chris Mason wrote:
The key point from your NETSTAT GATE output is that any packet which is sent
to any destination on your LAN (EZZ2638I 192.168.0.0
OSD1 4070 ) uses an MTU of 4070, any packet which is sent to a
destination which is *not* on your LAN (EZZ2638I Defaultnet
192.168.0.224
On Jun 7, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Perryman, Brian wrote:
Hi folks
Some people in our apps support department create test files under
their own TSO userid HLQ, which get SMS-placed onto the 'user'
storage pool, but then later they manually rename these files to
have a production dataset prefix,
Richard,
What you are suggesting the OSA does would, I think, require too much
information needing to be passed to the OSA. The OSA manuals already make a
fuss over ARP offloading - which is, in any case, necessary for the "ARP
takeover" trick. I'd expect a similar fuss over any other "offloading"
CA just announced password support for passwords of up to 128 charactors for
both ACF2 and Top Secret.
http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid80_gci1192663,00.html?track=NL-576&ad=554057
Eric Bielefeld
414-475-7434
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One-third of all people who ever lived have not died.
Charles
=
Edward,
CS IP is not the only platform which describes routes you didn't know you
had. My Windows NT system does it. I expect 192.168.0.180 is the address of
your interface on the 192.168.0.0 subnet. This appears to be one of those
"internal" routes that has no significance in the outside world.
Chris Mason wrote:
[snip]
TCP/IP uses the MTU to determine the largest size frame to send. The MTU in
effect for a given outbound send depends on several factors:
interface_MTU
[snip]
configured_route_MTU
[snip]
actual_route_MTU
[snip]
path_MTU
[snip]
OK. I get it. The inter
Edward Jaffe wrote:
>
>
> Now to my z/OS-based question. We have an OSA-Express on our z800. We
> share the QDIO port across multiple LPARs. I set the MTU for the QDIO
> port on my z/OS 1.7 LPARs to 4070 using the GATEWAY statement (still
> IPv4 here folks) in my TCPIP profile. But, when I issue t
Edward,
The manual section you need to be reading is 1.2.19, "Maximum Transmission
Unit (MTU) considerations" in the CS IP Configuration Guide. It's not too
big so I may as well insert it here:
1.2.19 Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU) considerations
TCP/IP uses the MTU to determine the largest s
I doubt it. All the major players in the webmail market have expanded their
storage to match Gmail's. And Yahoo just blew the doors off nearly everyone
with their new beta web client. It looks like Outlook webmail, but it's better
and faster. The best web app I've ever used, and I"ve hated p
The $ACTIVATE level matters only to JES2, not to z/OS. If you run a
down-level JES2 (such as 1.6) under z/OS 1.7, then you can join a MAS at
the 'R4' level.
My question is, why not $ACTIVATE to the 'z/OS 1.2' level now? It's very
clean these days. You get some new features and extended capabil
One-third of all people who ever lived have not died.
Charles
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Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 8:48 AM
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>
Hi
I need more information about RLS, if anybody have experience in this
area, please send me in my e-mail.
Thanks for all
Jorge Arueira Campos
CAIXA ECONOMICA FEDERAL - OSASCO - SP
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Well, ACS are redriven on RECALL so you could use MIGRATE/RECALL to
move to the "correct" pool.
Dave Gibney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
System Programmer(509) 335-7359
Information Technology
Washington State University
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> -Or
Edward Jaffe wrote:
[Reposting this small part to fix the bad link]
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/f1a1c240/3.3.2.10
defines ACTMTU as "The largest MTU supported by an active link or
interface. If the link or interface is inactive, then this field
displays as 'Unknow
Our LAN is primarily 100mb Token-Ring with some 100mb Ethernet bridging
to access some internal systems and the Internet. Recently we started
looking into optimizing network performance by adjusting MTU sizes. What
we found is that Token-Ring's max-supported MTU is around 17K, but
Ethernet's ma
Don't forget Elvis.
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>
> Rule: Everybody dies.
>
> Exception:
Edward Jaffe wrote:
Perryman, Brian wrote:
Hi folks
Some people in our apps support department create test files under
their own TSO userid HLQ, which get SMS-placed onto the 'user' storage
pool, but then later they manually rename these files to have a
production dataset prefix, I have n
Google is entering many more information service businesses than just their
popular Internet search engine. Many of those other businesses do require
consistency in results. Also, as Internet search matures, I think people
will expect more consistency and currency.
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Timothy F. Sipples
Mark Post writes:
>
One other thing for people to consider: even on machines that have
standard
>CPs running at sub-capacity, IFL processors _always_ run at full-rated
>speed, without increasing your IBM or ISV software charges for the
workload
>running on the standard CPs. (See the first link lis
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Perryman, Brian wrote:
Hi folks
Some people in our apps support department create test files under their own TSO userid HLQ, which get SMS-placed onto the 'user' storage pool, but then later they manually rename these files to have a production dataset prefix, I have no idea why - so they can t
>> Rule: Everybody dies.
>>
>> Exception: ?
>Enoch? Genesis 5:24, "Enoch walked with God; then he was no more,
>because God took him away."
>Elijah? 2 Kings 2:11, "As they were walking along and talking together,
>suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the
>tw
>
> Rule: Everybody dies.
>
> Exception: ?
I see John McKown beat me to the draw as I was writing
this. Oh well. I'll post anyway, to give another
verse about Enoch:
"By faith Enoch was taken from this life,
so that he did not experience death; he
could not be found, because God ha
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> > -Original Message-
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> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hal Merritt
>
> In a few years of doing this kind of stuff, I think the only
> absolute I could think of is: 'There are absolutely no absolutes'. ;-)
>
>
> On second thought, perhaps one absolute: "The only rule tha
I believe it can be done by creating a file with the port statements portion
of the profile. Just make sure that the port 515 is set up the way
InfoPrint Server wants it. Then use the OBEY command to reload the TCPIP
PORT definitions.
You can change almost everything on TCPIP dynamically using t
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
I'm curious as to your software levels. I tried a rename here (zOS1.7) and the
re-named dataset was re-cataloged correctly to the new catalog.
You have to perform unnatural acts to get behavior other than that.
Yes ...and no.
BOTH gentlemen are right!
Both could issue
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>People are more expensive than hardware.
>
I agree. That's why I don't subscribe to the notion that "development"
data is less important than production data. Especially in a D/R
environment. When stuff breaks and you ha
CICS/TS now has the ability to use multiple TCBs - a QR TCB for normal
stuff, SSL TCB's , and Thread-safe program TCBs (L8 TCB)
So CICS can use multiple CP's..
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>The last time I checked, an individual CICS region was limited by the engine
>size.
That was a longgg time ago.
There are now multiple TCB's in a CICS address space.
And, for example, each DB2 thread is a TCB.
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Not only is it a good idea!
It's the LA
> also have a fixed limit on the number of disks in the user pool and I don't
> migrate anything from it. When the blighters fill it up, they have to delete
> stuff.
That is draconian!
People are more expensive than hardware.
I see no problem with limiting the size online.
But, some so-called
Lynn,
I just want to thank you for your *extremely* enlightening posts. I have
been around this industry for almost 30 years and I am constantly amazed
when a knowledge gap from the past is closed after reading one of your
posts.
Keep posting, PLEASE! :-)
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I will be interested in seeing whether Google can reproduce their search-engine
success with gmail. When your selling point is that people can retain and
search gigabytes of email, you can't get away with some of the things you can
as a simple search-engine.
As a new gmail user, I am so far
I like the look of that acsenvir test - I'll play with that and see what the
options are. It wouldn't, as has already been pointed out, be particularly
useful for testing to see if the target or source HLQ is one in a production
list, but it would be useful if it could be used to see if the HLQ
The last time I checked, an individual CICS region was limited by the
engine size. This means that, even if you had work that a 2 x 50 MIPS could
handle according to raw MIPS, if you had a CICS region which required 75 MIPS
to deliver acceptable response times, you were hosed on such a
assuming that your users are 'just trying to get their job done', an
option would be to periodically do a dss sweep of your test pool for your
production mclass and move them to your prod pool.
i really want to tx Greg Shirey for mentioning the rename environ for acs.
i've been doing sms for a
In a few years of doing this kind of stuff, I think the only absolute I
could think of is: 'There are absolutely no absolutes'. ;-)
On second thought, perhaps one absolute: "The only rule that has no
exception is: there is an exception to every rule". :-))
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we are installing z/OS V1 R7 and we want to run the JES2 from our z/OS V1
R6. We run this JES2 in R4 mode. Now I know that the JES2 which comes with
z/OS V1 R7 will only run in the z2 mode.
So my question is can we run our JES2 V1 R6 in R4 mode under z/OS V1 R7?
Thanks in advance
--
We've sort of made progress with my situation. Part of this application
(and others) is a proprietary product called GTAM which is OCO. The
vendor supplied the applications with a 31-bit capable version of GTAM
which they are using for their testing.
We sent the vendor the source code for th
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 6:39 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: 'Rogue' HLQs
>
>
> Hi folks
>
> Some people in our apps support department create test file
Another potential issue is that if you use DFDSS to copy a load library PDS and
do not specify ALLDATA(*) the new file will have only the amount of space
currently in use. If it is defined with no secondary extent space, you will
not be able to add any new members to it.
I always use ALLDATA.
Brian,
You should be able to prevent renaming in the ACS STORCLAS routine, by
testing the &ACSENVIR variable. If you had a FILTLIST with all the SYSPROG
ID's specified, you could code something like:
WHEN (&ACSENVIR = 'RENAME' AND &USER <> &SYSPROG) THEN DO
WRITE 'RENAMING DATA SETS IS NOT AL
Good one, Gilbert. Thanks for a good laugh!
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 08:42:26 -0400, Gilbert Saint-Flour
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wednesday 07 June 2006 07:52, Tom Marchant wrote:
>
>> There is no such thing as "MIP"
>
>Of course, there is !!!
>
>one MIP, two MIPS
>
>and similarly,
>
>one CIC,
ALTER with NEWNAME on a NON-VSAM dataset will put the renamed dataset in the
proper catalog for the renamed HLQ.
ALTER with NEWNAME on a VSAM dataset will rename the dataset and leave it in
the original catalog.
IIRC, SMS routines only get driven on new dataset allocation.
Yes, RACF should be u
Cheekie little blighters!
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/7/2006 9:17:57 AM >>>
Thanks all, for the answers and suggestions.
I've checked back on the datasets now and it appears I misled you all (and
myself) about the catalog issue. I'm sure when I looked at it, that they had
stayed in the wrong catalo
Thanks all, for the answers and suggestions.
I've checked back on the datasets now and it appears I misled you all (and
myself) about the catalog issue. I'm sure when I looked at it, that they had
stayed in the wrong catalog.. I must have misread something somewhere.
We split production, test a
If they are renamed with ALTER ... NEWNAME, they will stay in the
same catalog. TSO or ISPF rename will recatalog them in the correct
catalog. Otherwise normal catalog search would not find them.
Now my curiosity is really aroused as I tried an ALTER ... NEWNAME and the
new dsn still ended
On Wednesday 07 June 2006 07:52, Tom Marchant wrote:
> There is no such thing as "MIP"
Of course, there is !!!
one MIP, two MIPS
and similarly,
one CIC, two CICS
one IM, two IMS
and so on . . . :=)
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On Wed, 2006-06-07 at 07:29 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:
> I suggest giving serious consideration to looking at your SMS design.
> IMHO, you should not be using different pools for production/test/user
> or for different applications. What benefit do you think you gain by
> doing so? I suggest tha
>I'm curious as to your software levels. I tried a rename here (zOS1.7) and
>the re-named dataset was re-cataloged correctly to the new catalog.
You have to perform unnatural acts to get behavior other than that.
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Not only is it a good idea!
It's the LAW!!!
FYI starting to look for people willing to write short articles
about the impacts of religious patriarchies on human solidarity,
ecological sustainability, social justice, the use/misuse of information
technology, etc, etc, including a critical review of this work?
Anyone interested?
Take
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:38:53 +0100, Perryman, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hi folks
>
>Some people in our apps support department create test files under
>their own TSO userid HLQ, which get SMS-placed onto the 'user' storage
>pool, but then later they manually rename these files to have a p
Perhaps a lot of the enmity (especially in this community) toward Google is
their success and public perception (and possible IT perception) that they
provide the ideal IT environment - they "prove" that the cheap, distributed
server setup is viable, even though all they really provide is rather
because the files were renamed, they're staying in the original
catalog
I'm curious as to your software levels. I tried a rename here (zOS1.7)
and the re-named dataset was re-cataloged correctly to the new catalog.
ddkeller
On 07/06/06, Perryman, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Some people in our apps support department create test files under their own
TSO userid HLQ, which get SMS-placed onto the 'user' storage pool, but then
later they manually rename these files to have a production dataset prefix, I
have no
I put this PTF on my test system yesterday and the original problem is
corrected. I used IPCS VSMDATA to look for DFE storage with a size of
x'430' bytes to verify the problem is corrected.
Prior to the PTF, HZSPROC was growing by about 250 frames per day. With a
large system with lots o
>Anyway, these production HLQs would normally go in their own catalog and SMS
>storage pool but, because the files were renamed, they're staying in the
>original catalog and storage pool.
No. They are not staying in the original catalogue.
When a dataset gets renamed, it is moved to the catalogu
There is no such thing as "MIP"
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One of the few RoT to stand the test of time:
"you'd have to have rocks in your head to run a UP".
Take it or leave it, but I advise customers against single engine
environments.
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I'm not disagreeing, just emphasizing your point: Other-platform folk happily proceed with projects whose problems they can't anticipate and (maybe) solve the problems later. Mainframers are better at seeing problems with proposed projects. And it's the mainframers who need their attitudes adjusted
Hi folks
Some people in our apps support department create test files under their own
TSO userid HLQ, which get SMS-placed onto the 'user' storage pool, but then
later they manually rename these files to have a production dataset prefix, I
have no idea why - so they can test some production jo
maybe V TCPIP,,CMD=DROP,CONN=0004C0F7
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Phil Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Simple test - do a search on Google. Any search. Let it default to 10 hits
>per page, and
>collect all the pages.
>Then repeat the search, asking for 100 hits per page.
>Compare the results. They will be different. What they don't tell you is
>that ea
Thanks to all for your advice. I will listen to your suggestions and code the
parm.
Thanks
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Hello Brian,
Some questions:
- Did your research took into account the common storage overhead? other
synchronization overhead?
- I know that CPU speed of the 50 Mips proc. is equal to the 100 Mips
proc. The difference is in total capacity. But its like the supermarket.
You can have 2 cashiers
Fortunately SMP has little relevence today.
This is a subject that I lecture on over (and over and over again) about
vertical vs horizontal capacity with each new client we get, and it never
seems that people are "completely" satisfied with the answers until they can
see it laid out in "living col
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