What good is a curtain with holes in it?
Eric Bielefeld
Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer
Milwaukee Wisconsin
414-475-7434
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Arthur,
I used to read IBM-Main almost exclusively through the newsgroup. At work,
the newsgroup often fell behind by 2 or 3 days. When it worked normally,
most of the time, it was about a half hour behind, but sometimes it went for
a week with no postings. I finally set up this account
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
[...]
And what ever was the rationale for this counterintuitve mickeymouse,
as opposed to the relatively intuitive alternative:
[...]
Paul,
You're experienced person. You should know this is the rul #1 in
mainframe environmnet. To keep things complicated. User
In a recent note, Charles Mills said:
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 21:00:12 -0700
And what ever was the rationale for this counterintuitive Mickey mouse
Not having to tear into code that no one wanted to touch.
So, in consequence of a few craven MVS developers, customers need
to
In a recent note, John R. Grout said:
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:00:59 -0400
Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
xterm is available from:
ftp://invisible-island.net/xterm/xterm.tar.gz
Note that a sysprog must install this because
xterm must be setuid root to use USS
The freeware MXI is still supported to a some degree - however I can
only fix the code in my spare time and I do not have much of that at the
moment!
My primary focus is MXI G2 and I am currently writing a CICS plug-in
(the DB2 plug-in goes GA very soon and the MQ plug-in is going into beta
test
I downloaded quite a lot of manuals last night and only noticed this
morning that due to a definition error in the PC repository the files
have all been saved to D:\books.pdf rather than
D:\books\.pdf. Can I just move them all to the correct place,
change the repository definition
z/VM however is much better alternative for running multiple Linux than
LPARs.
If you think you may need more than a couple Linux instances in the near
to medium term -- a safe bet for most -- and you'd like efficient use of
system resources (particularly memory), then z/VM is a very good idea,
I am a developer working on some integration projects for my company.
We have created a scraping tool which utilizes the OCX provided by the
PCOM setup to scrape values off of the screen and populate them into
our software. This helps out our clients a lot as they do not have to
reenter
On 30/06/06, Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jim Mulder wrote:
O(n) - searching a list of n elements
O(n ** 2) - bubble sort of n elements
O(n * log(n)) - heap sort of n elements
there are many cases of searching list of n elements ... which can
result in non-linear
Dear list,
thanks to all who replied to my query. I agree about z/VM as supervisor,
especially in a shop like ours where 40-50 Linux/Unix could be moved to the big
iron. As ROT I knew that from 15-20 server on, z/VM is much better in terms of
TOC and administration.
I'll try to convince our
OK, I was the progenitor of Curiosity and it has really blossomed. If
this group could all meet at SCIDS, I'm sure the conversations would go on
for hours.
This has been an interesting journey through many subtopics.
Daniel McLaughlin
ZOS Systems Programmer
Crawford Company
PH: 770 621
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/29/2006
at 11:40 AM, Bruce Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
For example, SMS is an acronym used in VTAM or SNA, and its use long
precedes System Managed Storage. In the early days of DF/SMS I
used to search for APARs documenting SMS problems, but I got a lot
of hits
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 06/29/2006
at 12:28 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Question: You state that CRLF is traditional. I was under the
impression that CRLF originated with CP/M-80 from Digital Research.
The use of CRLF goes back to torn paper tape. It was also used in TSO
and on
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/29/2006
at 02:45 PM, Patrick Lyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
No, it fixed the problem.
What fixed the problem; sending the unlock WCC or changing the
terminal definition?
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Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
ISO position; see
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/29/2006
at 10:38 PM, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
No hardware or software (or both) generates random numbers.
Nonsense. A device that monitors the decay of a radioactive isotope
can be truly random. There are other techniques as well.
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Shmuel (Seymour J.)
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 06/29/2006
at 04:49 PM, Bruce Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Is anyone running X windows applications off a z/OS USS host?
I doubt it, but someone is almost certainly running an X-client[1] on
z/OS Unix.
to at the very least execute an xterm
Isn't there an xterm
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/29/2006
at 08:03 AM, Steve Samson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Did you really do that and remain conscious through the whole book?
I enjoyed reading logic manuals. Those were considerably denser than
initialization and tuna. So I don't find Bob's message at all
The mainframe is counter intuitive?? What about using the '-' to add
parameters in UNIX. Now THAT's counter intuitive!
Jon L. Veilleux
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If IBM really wanted to get new programmers interested in z/OS they
would make it Open Source. Most of the really good system programmers
that I know learned by resolving MVS problems by reading the source on
microfiche. The Open Source community is filled with new folks who love
to rip the source
Ditto. I attended Manchester Community College and received a Computer
Science Associates degree after learning COBOL, JCL, etc. It got me an
application programming job that eventually lead to System Programming.
The Community College system is a great place to get started. A little
pressuer from
On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 18:50 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/29/2006
at 10:38 PM, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
No hardware or software (or both) generates random numbers.
Nonsense. A device that monitors the decay of a radioactive isotope
can be truly
Random number generation is too important to be left up to chance. -
Unknown
Daniel McLaughlin
ZOS Systems Programmer
Crawford Company
PH: 770 621 3256
*
One seventh of your life is spent on Monday. - Unknown
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Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
No hardware or software (or both) generates random numbers. The numbers are
always pseudo- random. However the level (intensity) of pseuso is
different. Sometimes good enough. Some-
times even not known.
This is true a fortiori for computer software. For
100,000 foot view of GFS
GFS is not the future. But it shows us what the future can be.
http://storagemojo.com/?page_id=152
http://storagemojo.com/?page_id=153
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On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 17:09:46 -0500, Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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Lately, there seems to be a very high traffic.
A couple months ago, I don't think the average day got more than 100
messages total! I have noticed several postings from people I don't
recognize lately.
snip
It goes
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:23:21 -0500, Joel C. Ewing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course what makes the AVGREC parameter non intuitive is that it
performs two functions, neither of which is to supply the average record
length: It
(1)changes interpretation of the SPACE
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:03:40 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
Lately, there seems to be a very high traffic.
A couple months ago, I don't think the average day got more than 100
messages total! I have noticed several postings from people I don't
recognize lately.
snip
It goes in
Is there a way to order only the hiper fixes up to, for example, June 15, 2006.
We haven't prepared a CSI profile
Ale
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Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just
radically better.
It could be due to the *may-tag* repairman syndrome. The m/f just keeps
on chugging and doesn't need as much help anymore. I subscribed to this
listserver several years ago, but I also subscribed to the CICS and MQ
listservers as well. I got inundated with the postings and dropped out of
MVCDK/MVCSK/MVCK are slow. MVC is fast. MVCL can be fast.
That basically means that if your source is not fetch protected, you might
be best off simply switching to the target key and doing MVC then switching
back to your key. If your source is fetch protected then you must use one
of the key'd
Mark
... my name was on the list of frequent posters that someone sited a while
back ...
I guess you mean cited. You see it's just that sort of thing that keeps
the count up. g
Chris Mason
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On 29 Jun 2006 14:45:50 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/29/2006
04:56:51 PM:
I'll hire a kid with a fresh CS degree any day, whether he's got MVS
experience or not. There's some COBOL coder-beavers around here with
Hello All,
I am getting the following SB37-04. How do I preallocate the temp datasets
for IEBCOPY.
This is the message and below is my JCL and Cntl.
IEC030I
B37-04,IFG0554A,ALEX1,XMIT,SYS6,0A82,OS39M1,0427041D,SYS06181.T06410
IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT 292
SYSTEM COMPLETION CODE=B37
Ed, the error is coming from the XMIT command, not IEBCOPY. Use the
OUTDDNAME parameter instead of OUTDSN and supply a DD card with whatever
space parameters you like.
Jim McAlpine
On 6/30/06, Ed. Benoit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All,
I am getting the following SB37-04. How do I
You might want to change your FULLTHRESHOLD to something like 88-90%. since
XCF only cares about the # of Entries while Logger cares about the # of
Elements. We were seeing IXC585E until we updated our CFRM policy.
Doing that way you will avoid IXC585E while you wait until LOGR offloads
the
Ed,
unless your input PDS is extremely large, this should work OK ...
are you sure that the disk used for temporary files (OS39M1) has enough
freespace? XMIT and IEBCOPY are usually pretty well-behaved when it comes to
allocating sufficient space for workfiles.
Check for additional messages from
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:00:31 -0500, Freddy Guevara
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You might want to change your FULLTHRESHOLD to something like 88-90%. since
XCF only cares about the # of Entries while Logger cares about the # of
Elements. We were seeing IXC585E until we updated our CFRM policy.
Doing
Try running with a large REGION value.
Regards,
John Kalinich
CSC
Ed. Benoit
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
OK, if it is IEBCOPY work files, add SYSUT3 and SYSUT4 DD statements with
temp space definitions.
Jim McAlpine
On 6/30/06, Ulrich Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ed,
unless your input PDS is extremely large, this should work OK ...
are you sure that the disk used for temporary files
Seriously, what I have found that really helps is I filter all the IBM-MAIN
postings into their own Outlook folder, which I set up as View by
conversation topic. This view sorts say 100 new e-mails into perhaps a
dozen topics (subject lines). I then just delete unread with one keystroke
any
Google mail does it also.
Jim McAlpine
On 6/30/06, Bruce Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seriously, what I have found that really helps is I filter all the
IBM-MAIN
postings into their own Outlook folder, which I set up as View by
conversation topic. This view sorts say 100 new e-mails
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:14:40 -0400, Bruce Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
BTW, for those who don't know, millicode consists of the silicon
instructions from the normal zSeries instruction set, plus some
'millicode-only silicon instructions, so executing a millicoded
instruction is more or less
In a message dated 6/30/2006 10:16:18 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
are you sure that the disk used for temporary files (OS39M1) has enough
freespace? XMIT and IEBCOPY are usually pretty well-behaved when it comes to
allocating sufficient space for workfiles.
Check
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:24:17 -0500, Doug Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
See Bob Rogers Share Session 2836 from Seattle titled Even More of what
you do when you're a CPU
Thanks for the reference. I went to the session in Boston, but I had
forgotten about that.
Tom Marchant
with the advent of Google Checkout, a heavy-duty TP application, the
company must have one.
What architecture is Google using to provide high-performance, large-scale
transaction processing?
http://storagemojo.com/?p=177
I tend to retain my effusive moments for things that work.
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum30/34984.htm
The latest of many Google Datacenter threads. I don't care about Google's
stock-supporting
p/r spin and the amount of mutual back-slapping they go in for - their system
just doesn't
Same here regarding access. I have PersistTimeout in the HTTP server at 5
seconds, with MaxPersistRequest at 10. I'll have to dig and see if I can
see the documentation that I used to come up with those numbers. I use
persistent connections mostly to reduce the work used for SSL handshakes.
This command
COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(HLS.SMF.WEEKLY.G0142V00)) -
OUTDYNAM((HLS009)) DELETE CATALOG
Produces this output
ADR383W (001)-DDDS (01), DATA SET HLS.SMF.WEEKLY.G0142V00 NOT
SELECTED
ADR455W (001)-DDDS (03), THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE NOT
SUCCESSFULLY PROCESSED
Never mind.
Bloody thing isn't cataloged. Lord knows why, but that's the answer.
- David
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Thanks, Larry, Aaron.
It's a fairly complex, at least to this simple mind, application.Desktop
- Citrix - possible calls to one, two or all) AS/400, SQL Server, z/OS.
We have at least 3 different locations where the Users come in from. We're
currently running WAS V4 (3.5 lightweight mode)
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Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 6:15 AM
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Subject: Re: avgrec/avgblk history ?
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:23:21 -0500, Joel C. Ewing
Tom Marchant wrote:
The Amdahl 580 series had the same sort of thing, but they called it
macrocode. It made it easy to implement new instructions. An
interrupt would cause a switch to System state and macrocode would
decide what to do with it. Macrocode, combined with increased
addressability
Today was supposed to be the day the enabling PTFs become available.
Anyone hear anything?
Bob Richards
VP, Enterprise Technologist
Suntrust Banks, Inc
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Not exactly the right forum, but I'll ask the question and then
forgiveness.
How well does the current release of Oracle's RDMS run on z/OS 1.6? In
two main areas. First, how reliable / robust is it? Second, it is
reasonably efficient?
From what I understand, we have a site license which allows
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:06:17 -0600, Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Tom Marchant wrote:
The Amdahl 580 series had the same sort of thing, but they called it
macrocode. It made it easy to implement new instructions. An
interrupt would cause a switch to System state and macrocode
This being a long post, except for those passionately interested in the
background to this topic, I can imagine that eyes might glaze over at an
early stage. Thus I have picked out a sentence from deep within what follows
because it may have practical relevance:
It so happens that (according to
Here's a link to the WebSphere listserv and forums. Mostly not zOS
specific, some of it is frustratingly low-traffic, but what the hey.
http://www.websphere.org/websphere/jsp/community.jsp
We are running some WASv4 in 3.5 mode as well, so what I said about my
connections stands. All of the
Shmuel,
As I understand it, the opportunity to use the Unformatted System Services
tables with CS IP need not be taken, So it's not have to although I guess
it's recommended - except perhaps when you want all TN3270 clients to go
straight to one application, possibly one of those fancy network
Two of the DB2-specific PTFs are available, however we've found that prereq
PTFs are marked PE (I don't have the details).
Other DB2-specific PTFs are almost there.
Later,
Ray
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As others have noted, the problem is most likely with the XMIT command
itself, not with IEBCOPY. For sure the problem is not with the named
output dataset.
When XMIT goes to NJE, a temporary sequential dataset is created to hold
the *output* from IEBCOPY. That sequential dataset is then sent
PE train, ALL ABOARD!
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Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 4:13 PM
Subject: UA90255 now available to ENABLE NJE OVER TCP/IP IN JES2 Z/OS 1.7
APAR Identifier .. OA12364 Last Changed
ShopzSeries does not support ordering fixes up to an arbitrary cutoff
point. (SUF did, but SUF is history). Here's an example of getting just
the really important stuff, such as HIPER and PE. You can selectively
APPLY fixes with SOURCEIDs that contain only certain dates, but you can't
prevent
Charles and Gil,
I don't see it as counterintuitive at all. My recollection is that AVGBLK as
value for SPACE was around well before the AVGREC parm became available.
SPACE=(27998,(1000,100)) where 27998 is AVGBLK
A requirement to specify space based on number of records of a given
At 22:33 -0500 on 06/29/2006, Eric Bielefeld wrote about Re: Number
of Postings on IBM-Main:
I've also used sorting by threads, but Outlook Express doesn't work
very well for me when you have 20 or 30 emails that you want to save
for a while in my in basket. I haven't figured out how to get
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