Z/OS V 1.7 CPU utilization

2006-08-27 Thread Mohamed Juma
Hi, We are now Z/OS V 1.4, we are planning to go to V 1.7, I normally know that there is more CPU overhead from old to new versions. If there is any, What Percentage of CPU usage can come with V 1.7 over 1.4? Thanks, Mohamed Juma __ Do You Yahoo!?

Re: Serializing changes to parmlib/proclib

2006-08-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>recommended coding Rexx using mixed case for legibility (sorry, Ted and Shane) I don't know why you are appologising to me. I always use mixed case in REXX. But, I don't code: If Then Do End When in doubt. PANIC!!

Re: Serializing changes to parmlib/proclib

2006-08-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Ted MacNEIL said: > Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:23:47 + > > >That tipping point happened about TSO/E Rel 2, when Rexx came to MVS. > > ESA/3.1.3oE. > On, or about, 1990. > Feels about right. I stayed with CMS from inertia for many years after that. I seldom look ba

Re: JES2 Symbolic Parameter Passing

2006-08-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:08:31 -0400, Scott Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >There is a solution the basic problem. Consider setting up a REXX-based or some other batch job >that runs at midnight and generates various desired JCL symbolics, for example, today, today-1, >current-week previous-week

Re: Serializing changes to parmlib/proclib

2006-08-27 Thread Don Leahy
- Original Message - From: "Chris Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 1:06 PM Subject: Re: Serializing changes to parmlib/proclib Incidentally, with my large number of course-related libraries - and non-partitioned data sets

Re: JES2 Symbolic Parameter Passing

2006-08-27 Thread Scott Barry
There is a solution the basic problem. Consider setting up a REXX-based or some other batch job that runs at midnight and generates various desired JCL symbolics, for example, today, today-1, current-week previous-week (and in various formats). Then use a JCL INCLUDE statement to access the sy

Re: New airline security measures in Europe

2006-08-27 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Phil Payne wrote: These days the threat's on the network, and the bearded nutter is sitting safe in some cave somewhere. He doesn't necessarily have to get to your system - he can also attack a system that your system trusts. i think there was the vehicle plowing into the lobby of a building

Re: Serializing changes to parmlib/proclib

2006-08-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>That tipping point happened about TSO/E Rel 2, when Rexx came to MVS. ESA/3.1.3oE. On, or about, 1990. I was told by my manager to stick with CLIST because REXX was 'too' expensive. But, as I still believe, productivity is more important. Also, the only LRECL allowed was 80, under EXECIO, back

Re: Serializing changes to parmlib/proclib

2006-08-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:00:26 +, Dave Salt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Copying all members that were modified since a given point in time is > extremely easy to accomplish if SimpList is installed. First, SEE would be > Promo noted. Likely valuable to those who have the product or are cons

New airline security measures in Europe

2006-08-27 Thread Phil Payne
I don't know if they're still there, but in my commuting days there were toilets at Baker Street on the Metropolitan Line platform. And there are plenty of places to get out of sight on the Tube - most emergency staircases don't have CCTV monitoring throughout. Why do you need to get out of sig

Re: SYSSTATE_OSREL

2006-08-27 Thread Ray Mullins
Those are useful only if the code will run on that system. It's useless if you are assembling code and the target is different, such as assembling code on z/OS and the target is z/VSE. Later, Ray -- M. Ray Mullins Roseville, CA, USA http://www.catherdersoftware.com/ http://www.mrmullins.big-b

Re: IBM's "rights" (was Head's Up - zIIP issue OA17458/UA28419)

2006-08-27 Thread Ray Mullins
I'll just say that the changes to the ATTACH macro and setting a TCB dispatchable that were implemented at MVS/ESA 4.3 caused me a lot of grief in this area, especially when just testing the MVS/SP 4 bit was not enough - I was told by IBM to use the FMID field off the CVT to differentiate between M

Re: Serializing changes to parmlib/proclib

2006-08-27 Thread Ed Gould
On Aug 27, 2006, at 10:48 AM, David Alcock wrote: ---SNIP- At my last job, I was the "parmlib nazi". All changes to parmlib went to me (except off hours to fix a problem). IMHO, there should only be one person updating the parmlib. You always w

Re: JES2 Symbolic Parameter Passing

2006-08-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>You can't do it. Complain to IBM. Make out a Requirement. They'll ignore >you, as they have ignored numerous other customers with the same requirement. It's not a matter of ignoring you. IBM made a statement a long time ago regarding Batch and System variables. Could you be ignoring IBM? Wh

Re: Mainframe YouTube flicks

2006-08-27 Thread Tom Marchant
Same thing someone posted Friday... On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 07:42:06 -0500, Aaron Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Apparently there are some mainframe-related YouTube shorts out there: > >http://mainframe.typepad.com/blog/2006/08/mainframe_meets.html > >I watched part of the first one. I think yo

Re: JES2 Symbolic Parameter Passing

2006-08-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Ken Hansen said: > Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:36:29 -0500 > > //STEP EXEC MYPROC,MYDATE=&SYSDATE > > This does not work. If anyone can tell me how to correct this, I would > appreciate your input. > You can't do it. Complain to IBM. Make out a Requirement. They'l

Re: Serializing changes to parmlib/proclib

2006-08-27 Thread Dave Salt
From: Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does ISPF LM have a filter that will select all members modified since a given point in time, for generation of IEBCOPY SELECT statements? Copying all members that were modified since a given point in time is extremely easy to accomplish if SimpList is i

JES2 Symbolic Parameter Passing

2006-08-27 Thread Ken Hansen
Somewhere I remember something like this being done. But my research has note produced a workable answer. I am looking to run an inline proc that will insert the rundate from the System into a data set name in a JES2 environment. Generation data sets will not work for this situation. I am

Re: Serializing changes to parmlib/proclib

2006-08-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Chris Mason said: > Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:06:36 +0200 > > I dare say there are some products out there which address this sort of > problem. I just hope whatever technique they employ isn't too > overcomplicated ... > ISPF/LMF. Keep a "source" copy of each library

Re: Serializing changes to parmlib/proclib

2006-08-27 Thread Chris Mason
Mike, In the days when I managed a number of systems for education purposes, in fact requiring a set of "PARMLIBs" and "PROCLIBs" for each of the courses, I had to come up with a system that reminded me what each of my members was and why it was there. My solution was to create a member named $$

Re: Serializing changes to parmlib/proclib

2006-08-27 Thread David Alcock
> We are beginning to customize our z./OS 1.7 (to > replace 1.4). We have several folks who will be > updating parmib and proclib. There is a possibility > that we might step on each other's changes. Say, > for instance, two people are making changes to COMMNDxx. At my last job, I was the

Re: SYSSTATE_OSREL

2006-08-27 Thread john gilmore
About SYSSTATE_OSREL Paul Gilmartin writes: I glanced at the doc for this. It appears less useful than it might be in that SYSSTATE TEST does not set values for &SYSOSREL and &SYSOSREL_NAME. These facilities anyway duplicate those of the HLASM system variable symbol &SYSTEM_ID, which discrim

Re: Z/os Performance issue: REWRITE a sequential data set

2006-08-27 Thread Steve Comstock
Binyamin Dissen wrote: On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 09:19:44 -0600 Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>One alternative might be to code MACRF=PL in the :>DD statement for the file you are updating in place; :>not sure though; would like to see the FD first. Unless thing have DRASTICALLY changed,

Re: Mainframe YouTube flicks

2006-08-27 Thread Steve Comstock
Aaron Walker wrote: Apparently there are some mainframe-related YouTube shorts out there: http://mainframe.typepad.com/blog/2006/08/mainframe_meets.html I watched part of the first one. I think you'll enjoy it! Here is the Slashdot tip-off: http://slashdot.org/articles/06/08/26/2247204.shtml

Re: IBM's "rights" (was Head's Up - zIIP issue OA17458/UA28419)

2006-08-27 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 09:20:41 -0600 Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>I glanced at the doc for this. It appears less useful than it :>might be in that SYSSTATE TEST does not set values for &SYSOSREL :>and &SYSOSREL_NAME. Yes, it's value is used in macro expansions, such as VSMLOC. It is

Re: Z/os Performance issue: REWRITE a sequential data set

2006-08-27 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 09:19:44 -0600 Steve Comstock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>One alternative might be to code MACRF=PL in the :>DD statement for the file you are updating in place; :>not sure though; would like to see the FD first. Unless thing have DRASTICALLY changed, MACRF does not go on the

Re: IBM's "rights" (was Head's Up - zIIP issue OA17458/UA28419)

2006-08-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, David Cole said: > Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 06:03:32 -0400 > > At 8/26/2006 04:04 PM, PRelson wrote: > >I can only say "I am astonished" that someone would code based on > >the presence of a field name. We have every right to define fields > >in any level of macros that ar

Re: Z/os Performance issue: REWRITE a sequential data set

2006-08-27 Thread Steve Comstock
Johnny Luo wrote: My god...thanks a lot!! I've done a small test: 1, First create a (vb,1024,27998,ps) data set on zos and write many records to it. All records with the same actual length: 8 so the data set is actually small. 2, Then I code a PL/I program to update first 40,000 records.

Re: Z/os Performance issue: REWRITE a sequential data set

2006-08-27 Thread Steve Comstock
Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: At 23:15 +0800 on 08/26/2006, Johnny Luo wrote about Re: Z/os Performance issue: REWRITE a sequential data set: Because the pl/i program is simple, i'll put its main logic here: (It's our customer's production program) DO WHILE (!EOF_FILEA & !EOF_FILEB); DO WHILE

Re: Why is it still there?

2006-08-27 Thread J R
ACF2 also does (or did) this I think (I'm not sure). It may have gone away when it went to the SAF interface as opposed to ZAPing SVCs. This is one of the very few justifiable uses of system abend codes by non-IBM code. If you are replacing SVCs 130-133, it makes perfect sense to use x82, x83

Re: Z/os Performance issue: REWRITE a sequential data set

2006-08-27 Thread Johnny Luo
Bill, all these performance problems are concering Pl/i programs and it's because of our 'buggy' pl/i compiler. On 8/27/06, Bill Klein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I got confused earlier in this thread. I thought the original report was that running the "original PL/I program" on you PC caused

Mainframe YouTube flicks

2006-08-27 Thread Aaron Walker
Apparently there are some mainframe-related YouTube shorts out there: http://mainframe.typepad.com/blog/2006/08/mainframe_meets.html I watched part of the first one. I think you'll enjoy it! Here is the Slashdot tip-off: http://slashdot.org/articles/06/08/26/2247204.shtml Aaron

Re: Z/os Performance issue: REWRITE a sequential data set

2006-08-27 Thread Johnny Luo
I'm so glad to give my feedback on this issue. I use an older version pl/i compiler to recompile the pl/i program and after that my job just finished in two minutes! So the problem lies in compiler. As for qsam and bsam, I don't know how to generate a dump and check it. I'll do some research to

Re: IBM's "rights" (was Head's Up - zIIP issue OA17458/UA28419)

2006-08-27 Thread David Cole
At 8/26/2006 04:04 PM, PRelson wrote: I can only say "I am astonished" that someone would code based on the presence of a field name. We have every right to define fields in any level of macros that are convenient. Peter, Your "astonishment" only shows your own limitations. Just because you

Z/os Performance issue: REWRITE a sequential data set

2006-08-27 Thread Bill Klein
I got confused earlier in this thread. I thought the original report was that running the "original PL/I program" on you PC caused performance problems. I now think the report was that using COBOL caused the problem. If it is COBOL having the problem, then check the following compiler options: