Re: DFSORT APAR PK34654

2007-03-07 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Frank Yaeger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schreef in bericht news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > ... > > > > > > C.P. Vernooy wrote on 03/07/2007 08:15:35 AM: > > Does anyone (DFSORT team?) have an idea, why the PTF for APAR > > PK34654 takes so long? The problem was reported 4 months ago and no

General question on licensing "obsolete" IBM products

2007-03-07 Thread Bill Klein
I think that 97% compatible is GROSSLY underestimated. Although this may not have always been true, but today, there are ALMOST no cases where the BEHAVIOR is different. I suppose that if you are A) still using ISAM or B) TCAM Or C) other very old software, you might have

Re: SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?

2007-03-07 Thread Ed Gould
On Mar 7, 2007, at 7:52 AM, Veilleux, Jon L wrote: -SNIP--- It would be goodness to be able to do this, but, our experiences with vendor SMP/E expertise leads me to believe that most vendors would be hard pressed to get it right. Perhaps the larger ven

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-07 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: As part of my resource manager shipped in the mid-70s ... I had also shipped page "migration" support (pages that became inactive on "higher speed" devices would be migrated to "lower speed" devices) improving effectiveness of higher speed devices for paging operat

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-07 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote: Not quite; the 370/168 had two type of block multiplexor channel, single byte and 2 byte. The 2 byte channel ran at 3 MB/s. The 3880 only supported the single byte channel, which was less expensive. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007e.html#40 FBA rant about th

Re: General question on licensing "obsolete" IBM products

2007-03-07 Thread Charles Mills
> AND OF COURSE, as far a RUN-TIME goes, if you have z/OS, then you already > have the OS/VS COBOL run-time support. (It's part of LE). Well, now you're getting to the heart of the actual issue. (This is not just an academic question.) LE support for the older COBOLs is 99% compatible -- which is

Re: NFS exported legacy files truncated on unix

2007-03-07 Thread Tony Harminc
Joanne Nicolazzo wrote: > I'm running NFS server on z/OS 1.4, and exporting legacy sequential files to > a redhat linux system. It took me a moment to realize that by legacy file you mean MVS dataset. Searching the APAR database for the word legacy, I see that just about all the references to "le

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-03-07 Thread Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/03/2007 at 12:31 AM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >SVS was MVT with Virtual Storage (a 16Meg Machine). To some extent, but there were some significant changes to exploit paging, e.g., SVS was TACTless. >so there was a limit on the total combine

Re: IEBCOPY question?

2007-03-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/02/2007 at 11:58 AM, George Dranes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I'm curious, normally when I'm putting maintenance on the operating >system and I receive the dreaded D37 abend on a load library where >the library can't be comressed any further, I will allocate a new

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-03-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/01/2007 at 09:09 AM, "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >My recollection is that the original virtual storage announcement for >S/370 already used the term MVS for OS/VS2 R2. C 'MVS' 'AOS' -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: IBM S/360 series operating systems history

2007-03-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/02/2007 at 11:35 PM, "Robert A. Rosenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >DOS/360 started with the name BOS-16k and was renamed as DOS at some >release level. My recollection is that DOS/360 was intended as an interim system until BOS-16K was stable, but that "interi

Re: How to change color for one particular message?

2007-03-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/01/2007 at 07:27 AM, "Wallace, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >That's what I suspected, but I guess the problem was that from my >novice point of view, this part of Netview's functionality seemed a >bit deceiving: It can do all this other stuff to MVS messages (e

Re: How are you handling high SMF record volume?

2007-03-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/01/2007 at 08:47 AM, "Veilleux, Jon L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >We would like to move these records from SMF to GTF Why? Wouldn't that make things worse? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/05/2007 at 10:47 AM, "Andreas F. Geissbuehler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >The venerable IBM 2321 A.K.A "the strip picker", ITYM noodle picker. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-07 Thread Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/03/2007 at 08:27 AM, Shane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >And yep, we'd probably all like FBA support to have been taken up. I asked for it three decades ago. I thought that it was a no brainer, but IBM didn't agree. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOA

Re: FBA rant

2007-03-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/03/2007 at 01:16 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >"speed matching" attempted to retrofit 3880/3380 to 168 and 303x >machines with channel running at 1.5mbyte max Not quite; the 370/168 had two type of block multiplexor channel, single byte and 2

Re: EREP & Logsteam

2007-03-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/05/2007 at 01:19 PM, Mark Pace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >IFB086I LOGREC DATA SET IS SYS1.CPAC.LOGREC >IFB097I LOGREC RECORDING MEDIUM CHANGED FROM DATASET TO LOGSTREAM Did you read the second line? >So I used SYS1.CPAC.LOGREC. I don't seem to be getting all t

General question on licensing "obsolete" IBM products

2007-03-07 Thread Bill Klein
I don't know what IBM would do with a "PRPQ" type request for a NEW order for the OS/VS COBOL compiler, but I don't think it would receive a "warm" welcome. (Do you remember how to install a product with SMP4? OS/VS COBOL was never delivered with SMP/E support) As far as a shop getting a new (la

Re: General question on licensing "obsolete" IBM products

2007-03-07 Thread Ken Porowski
IIRC 'Withdrawn from Marketing' means the product is no longer orderable but may still be supported. 'Withdrawn from Service' means no new service will be created for the product and no APARs will be taken for it. AFAIK if a product has been withdrawn from marketing and service you could still lice

SHARE requirements of POSSIBLE interest

2007-03-07 Thread Bill Klein
to: IBM-MAIN and Assembler List-Servers I just thought that I would post this to IBM-MAIN and ASSEMBLER-LIST indicating that there are currently 4 "LNGC" requirements out for voting (that will close next week). If you are already on the LNGC "requirements distribution list", then you have heard a

Re: Question on Changing Memory Allocations (was RE: Paging and SLOTS (was: Why are they so full ? RE: When Does the New LOCAL Get Used? RE: ILR006E COMMON PAGE DATA SET FULL,...)

2007-03-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I can change the memory allocated to my 2 lpars dynamically (I want to take some from TEST and give it to PROD)? We tried it a few years ago, and found that the hassle wasn't worth the cost of memory. Because the reserved memory comes up offline. We tried to re-allocate in our automation, but p

Re: General question on licensing "obsolete" IBM products

2007-03-07 Thread Bob Shannon
No. IBM won't sell a product that has been withdrawn from marketing. If you copy OS/VS COBOL to another system you are obliged to inform IBM. IBM will charge for the use of the product, but you cannot order another copy from IBM. Bob Shannon (who has tried) ---

Re: SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?

2007-03-07 Thread Shane
> Survey question: What do you do? > > 1. Download directly to z/OS >a. FTP (what client?) >b. Other (specify) a) - almost always (z/OS FTP). > 2. Download to desktop, and then to z/OS: >a. FTP >b. Samba >c. IND$FILE >d. NFS >e. Other (specify) a) - only when 1 a) n

Re: SVCDUMP Issues

2007-03-07 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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General question on licensing "obsolete" IBM products

2007-03-07 Thread Charles Mills
Does anyone have an answer to the question "what does IBM mean by 'withdrawn from marketing'"? Lots of long-withdrawn from marketing products are still in widespread use -- OS/VS COBOL is a great example -- and I am sure IBM is happily cashing the license checks every month. So "withdrawn from mar

Re: NFS exported legacy files truncated on unix

2007-03-07 Thread Joanne Nicolazzo
Thanks! I think OA07298 might be the answer. The files were VB, so it looks like a good bet. We're going to apply it and see if it does the trick. Joanne -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send emai

Re: SVCDUMP Issues

2007-03-07 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/7/2007 3:20:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, Larry.A.Gray @ LOWES.COM writes: >I tried the CD command below. It stopped dumping master, but it is still dumping JES2, JES2AUX and JES2MON. I haven't seen your exact DUMP command, and I assume you are using the operand J

Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command

2007-03-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:34:53 -0600, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Works fine here. Do you have any exits (I'm not if one applies >here without looking at the FM). What about typing "SHOW" from >the DSLIST command line to see what is getting expanded. > (fixed "exits" typo above) One ot

Re: Looking for ideas on remote system

2007-03-07 Thread Andy White
Thank you Sam and others that replied if this works im all set this sounds like what I wanted. This doesn't need VTAM I assume just start it up and is it line commands or a full screen application? Andy Internet: Mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "IBM Mainframe Discussion List" wrote on 03/07/2007 12:

Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command

2007-03-07 Thread Mark Zelden
Works fine here. Do you have any exists (I'm not if one applies here without looking at the FM). What about typing "SHOW" from the DSLIST command line to see what is getting expanded. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance

Re: SVCDUMP Issues

2007-03-07 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command

2007-03-07 Thread Jousma, David
Tom, Nope, same problem happened with a UMOUNT FILESYS(/) command. I went to one of my 1.6 systems - no problems. Dave Dave Jousma Principal Systems Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 616.653.8429 > Dave, I'll bet you have a LISTC exec some

Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command

2007-03-07 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: "Jousma, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:39 PM Subject: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command All, Just playing on my z/OS 1.8 tech lpar, and noticed that commands issued on the dataset line in option

Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command

2007-03-07 Thread Jousma, David
Interesting. I even started with a fresh ISPPROF dataset. Here is the before partial screen shot: Menu Options View Utilities Compilers Help ΒΆΒΆ DSLIST - Data Sets Matching SYS1

Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command

2007-03-07 Thread Dave Salt
From: "Jousma, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just playing on my z/OS 1.8 tech lpar, and noticed that commands issued on the dataset line in option 3.4, and then repeated with the '=' get truncated after 9 characters and fails. For example a LISTC ENT(/) ALL, repeated (after the failure) shows on th

Re: z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command

2007-03-07 Thread Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
We've got 1.8 on our test system, and I tested this out, and I do not see the same problem. It seems to work fine on our 1.8 test LPAR. C. Todd Burrell Senior z/OS Systems Programmer ITSO (404) 498-3299 (404) 723-2017 (cell) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ma

z/OS 1.8 ISPF 3.4 repeat command

2007-03-07 Thread Jousma, David
All, Just playing on my z/OS 1.8 tech lpar, and noticed that commands issued on the dataset line in option 3.4, and then repeated with the '=' get truncated after 9 characters and fails. For example a LISTC ENT(/) ALL, repeated (after the failure) shows on the display as LISTC ENT. Anyone else s

Re: NFS exported legacy files truncated on unix

2007-03-07 Thread Brian Peterson
Perhaps OA07298? (Problem number 7 of 20 listed in the APAR). Brian On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:55:55 -0600, Joanne Nicolazzo wrote: >Hi There, >I'm running NFS server on z/OS 1.4, and exporting legacy sequential files to >a redhat linux system. When I create a file of a specific size (just around >

Re: NFS exported legacy files truncated on unix

2007-03-07 Thread Rugen, Len
Have you actually looked at the files via the NVS mount, sometimes ls lies for NFS. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Joanne Nicolazzo > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 1:56 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: NFS exp

Re: Question on Changing Memory Allocations (was RE: Paging and SLOTS ...

2007-03-07 Thread Robert Pelletier
Thanks Ed. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -Original Message- From: Ed Finnell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on Changing Memory Allocations (was RE:

Re: Question on Changing Memory Allocations (was RE: Paging and SLOTS ...

2007-03-07 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/7/2007 1:42:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks everyone. >> IIRC, the IBM recommendation for CSTOR to ESTOR is 3:1 for that class machine and that level of OS. That's what was used on LSPR numbers for many moons. Until you can get an u

Re: Question on Changing Memory Allocations (was RE: Paging and SLOTS

2007-03-07 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- An earlier post suggested changing the allocations in the HMC and IPLing. I believe you need to also deactivate the LPAR to get it to process the image profile to pick up the changed memory allocations. In Bob's case he might need to deactivate both LPAR

NFS exported legacy files truncated on unix

2007-03-07 Thread Joanne Nicolazzo
Hi There, I'm running NFS server on z/OS 1.4, and exporting legacy sequential files to a redhat linux system. When I create a file of a specific size (just around 4k), the file is truncated when it's looked at on linux. It looks ok on the mainframe, but it's not all there when I look at it on linux

Re: SVCDUMP Issues

2007-03-07 Thread Brian Peterson
CD DEL,SDUMP,TYPE=XMEME Brian On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:57:57 -0500, Gray, Larry - Larry A wrote: > >TYPE=XMEME is on the production lpar. I changed it to that on the >second lpar, but it does not seem to be making a difference. > >If TYPE=XMEME is the problem, how do you turn it off? > >-Orig

Re: IEBCOPY question?

2007-03-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:24:20 -0500, John Eells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Maybe Mark and I can talk about whether COPYMOD is worth it in >San Diego... > Planning on being there and hope to see you there as well. BTW, just to reiterate - I never said "it wasn't worth it", I said I wouldn't use it

Re: SVCDUMP Issues

2007-03-07 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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Re: Looking for ideas on remote system

2007-03-07 Thread Gibney, Dave
It saved my butt earlier this year during a migration to a new DASD array. I IPLed it from the CD Sam distributed at SHARE. Thank again Sam. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Mullins Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:40 AM

Re: Question on Changing Memory Allocations (was RE: Paging and SLOTS (was: Why are they so full ? RE: When Does the New LOCAL Get Used? RE: ILR006E COMMON PAGE DATA SET FULL,...)

2007-03-07 Thread Alan C. Field
An earlier post suggested changing the allocations in the HMC and IPLing. I believe you need to also deactivate the LPAR to get it to process the image profile to pick up the changed memory allocations. In Bob's case he might need to deactivate both LPARs to get the one to give up the storage an

Re: Question on Changing Memory Allocations (was RE: Paging and SLOTS (was: Why are they so full ? RE: When Does the New LOCAL Get Used? RE: ILR006E COMMON PAGE DATA SET FULL,...)

2007-03-07 Thread Robert Pelletier
Thanks everyone. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -Original Message- From: Rick Fochtman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 2:41 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question on Changing Memory Allocations

Re: SVCDUMP Issues

2007-03-07 Thread Brian Peterson
Is TYPE=XMEM set on one LPAR and not on the other? Try D D,O and see if the SDUMP options are the same. Brian On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:21:34 -0500, Gray, Larry - Larry A wrote: > >I am trying to take an SVC dump of one of my address spaces on my >production lpar. It keeps including JES2, JES2AUX,

Re: Question on Changing Memory Allocations (was RE: Paging and SLOTS (was: Why are they so full ? RE: When Does the New LOCAL Get Used? RE: ILR006E COMMON PAGE DATA SET FULL,...)

2007-03-07 Thread Rick Fochtman
On that box, you're limited to using the HMC for storage changes. --- We are OS390 V2R10 with RSU=0. Is the allocation done on the HMC or can it be done through HCD? --- -

Re: Looking for ideas on remote system

2007-03-07 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- I'm looking for some ideas on how to handle the following situation and wanted to know if anyone had an alterative or might be doing the same thing, We plan on putting a system stand alone at a remote site shortly for XRC/GDPS mirroring. We have or

SVCDUMP Issues

2007-03-07 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
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Re: IEBCOPY question?

2007-03-07 Thread John Eells
George Dranes wrote: I'm assuming the Server Pac install (z/os 1.7) used copymod to populate the linklib originally. There has been updates and deletes from maintenance being applied. I did compress the library before my copymod test. Copymod must be cleaning up some things in the process.

Re: IEFSD094 Code

2007-03-07 Thread Rick Fochtman
You'll also find a slightly "improved" version of IEFSD095, the block-letter builder, on the CBT site, under the name EALSD095. It contains some of the special characters that might be needed, like # @ and $. --- There is some information on

Re: SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?

2007-03-07 Thread Little, Dan W (RBC IT)
Survey question: What do you do? 1. Download directly to z/OS a. FTP (what client?) - z/OS FTP for lots and lots of stuff b. Other (specify) 2. Download to desktop, and then to z/OS: yes but only when there is no choice - some vendors force you to download via HTTPS or HTTP and don't gi

Re: Question on Changing Memory Allocations (was RE: Paging and SLOTS (was: Why are they so full ? RE: When Does the New LOCAL Get Used? RE: ILR006E COMMON PAGE DATA SET FULL,...)

2007-03-07 Thread Jousma, David
Bob, Just modify the image profile for your test LPAR reducing it by the amount you want, and find a convenient time to IPL it. Then you can dynamically add the freed storage to your production lpar assuming you have defined some reserved memory. If not, then it will be an IPL of production too.

Re: SHARE Sing Along Book

2007-03-07 Thread John P Kalinich
Wayne Brumback of the Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 03/07/2007 12:19:34 PM: > Tom > > If you're looking for some additional mainframe humor (not quite JCL or > Jes...) > ... then look at the following: > > http://www.hlasm.com/english/humor.htm > > I had bookmarked this quite some time a

Re: SHARE Sing Along Book

2007-03-07 Thread Wayne R. Brumback
Tom If you're looking for some additional mainframe humor (not quite JCL or Jes...) ... then look at the following: http://www.hlasm.com/english/humor.htm I had bookmarked this quite some time ago... Wayne Wayne R. Brumback mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Software Developer IAM Developm

Re: Question on Changing Memory Allocations (was RE: Paging and SLOTS (was: Why are they so full ? RE: When Does the New LOCAL Get Used? RE: ILR006E COMMON PAGE DATA SET FULL,...)

2007-03-07 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
I am fairly positive that with RSU=0, you can not dynamically move memory from one LPAR to the other one. Frankly, it's been so long since I messed with it I don't remember if you have to configure something on the hardware side (either HMC or HCD) to make this work or not. What I do remember is

SMFEWTM BRANCH=YES while unlocked in task mode and IEFU84

2007-03-07 Thread Binyamin Dissen
SMF Record 30 is documented as being written via SMFEWTM BRANCH=YES and IEFU84 is called. Installation exits states: "An FRR is set up by the module that calls IEFU84". Research shows that if the SMFEWTM BRANCH=YES is issued unlocked and in task mode, as is done for some occupancies of type 30, t

Re: SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?

2007-03-07 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
We would be interested in any of our current vendors providing a similar service to RECEIVE ORDER. Currently we pull maintenance from IBM on an almost nightly basis and would love to have the same capability with our other vendors. (Just cos we receive it doesn't mean it needs to be applied !) It

Re: SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?

2007-03-07 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Survey question: What do you do? 1. Download directly to z/OS a. FTP (what client?) Only APARs in very critical situations. b. Other (specify) 2. Download to desktop, and then to z/OS: NO a. FTP b. Samba c. IND$FILE d. NFS e. Other (specify) 3. RECEIVE FROMNETWORK - Yes 4.

Re: DFSORT APAR PK34654

2007-03-07 Thread R. David Boenig II
Hi Kees, PK34654 is related to an IO error, related to the way that DFSORT was building a CCW. This problem is pretty intermittent and so it took a while to determine in exactly what scenarios the CCW was being built incorrectly. As for the status of PK34654. PK34654 has had a ++APAR available f

Re: Looking for ideas on remote system

2007-03-07 Thread Ray Mullins
It's very popular with the Hercules set. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Wednesday March 07 2007 09:17 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Looking for ideas on remote system I believe Jan Jeagar(?) wrote

Re: Looking for ideas on remote system

2007-03-07 Thread Knutson, Sam
http://www.cbttape.org/~jjaeger/ Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (office) 301.986.3574 "Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast..." -Original

Re: DFSORT APAR PK34654

2007-03-07 Thread Frank Yaeger
C.P. Vernooy wrote on 03/07/2007 08:15:35 AM: > Does anyone (DFSORT team?) have an idea, why the PTF for APAR PK34654 > takes so long? The problem was reported 4 months ago and no progress > seems to have been made since. > > I understood from our IBM technicians, the problem was that DFSORT > deci

Re: Question on Changing Memory Allocations (was RE: Paging and SLOTS (was: Why are they so full ? RE: When Does the New LOCAL Get Used? RE: ILR006E COMMON PAGE DATA SET FULL,...)

2007-03-07 Thread Robert Pelletier
We are OS390 V2R10 with RSU=0. Is the allocation done on the HMC or can it be done through HCD? Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -Original Message- From: Pommier, Rex R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:19

Re: SHARE Sing Along Book

2007-03-07 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 3/7/2007 9:58:54 A.M. Central Standard Time, Tom.Harper @ NEONESOFT.COM writes: >I was just looking for a few of the songs that had references to JCL and HASP in them. The sing-along originated in the SHARE HASP project, so the overwhelming majority of songs with rewr

Re: Looking for ideas on remote system

2007-03-07 Thread Roy Hewitt
Andy, Simple answer is yes.. Just think of the OSA-ICC as an internal 2074.. works ok for both MVS console and VTAM access (ie TSO). I would imagine that the code base from a 2074 was used to build the ICC function - if you've used 2074 before then you'll recognise the very similar config pro

Re: Question on Changing Memory Allocations (was RE: Paging and SLOTS (was: Why are they so full ? RE: When Does the New LOCAL Get Used? RE: ILR006E COMMON PAGE DATA SET FULL,...)

2007-03-07 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
What kind of a box do you have? What level of z/OS? Then the big question - in SYS1.PARMLIB member IEASYSxx do you have anything defined in the RSU parameter? IIRC, if you either don't have an RSU parameter defined (which defaults to 0) or have it defined as RSU=0, then no, you can't dynamically

Re: Looking for ideas on remote system

2007-03-07 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
We're not going to that extent, but I see no reason why it wouldn't work. The console attached to the ICC is nothing more than a PC running an emulator. We have 2 ICCs on our z9 running 3 LPARs. Each of the ICC PCs has 6 RUMBA sessions on it, 3 going to the consoles and the other 3 set up for TS

Re: Looking for ideas on remote system

2007-03-07 Thread Staller, Allan
I believe Jan Jeagar(?) wrote a stand alone editor. Should be on the CBT tape... If not try www.planetmvs.com Is anyone doing this? We know there are products out there that for example SEA makes one that allows us to get onto a 'dead' system with a stand alone product but we wanted to come up

Re: SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?

2007-03-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
Setting Reply-to: -- I'll summarize and attribute replies, if any. In a recent note, Kurt Quackenbush said: > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:08:03 -0500 > > The format of the downloadable files is the same for RECEIVE FROMNET and > RECEIVE ORDER. That is, both expect to handle GIMZIP format p

DFSORT APAR PK34654

2007-03-07 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Hello, Does anyone (DFSORT team?) have an idea, why the PTF for APAR PK34654 takes so long? The problem was reported 4 months ago and no progress seems to have been made since. I understood from our IBM technicians, the problem was that DFSORT decided to clean up working space on Dasd, whic

Looking for ideas on remote system

2007-03-07 Thread Andy White
I'm looking for some ideas on how to handle the following situation and wanted to know if anyone had an alterative or might be doing the same thing, We plan on putting a system stand alone at a remote site shortly for XRC/GDPS mirroring. We have ordered an ICC card for it and locally tested with it

Download z/OS software protocols (was SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?)

2007-03-07 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
Utilization and support of FTP are generally waning outside IBM. Really? Why? If not FTP, then what is the desired method for downloading products, PTFs, and HOLDDATA directly to a z/OS system from an Internet server? If there were a suitable HTTP(S) client on z/OS, or if SMP/E extended i

Re: SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?

2007-03-07 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
While the SMP/E RM describes GIMZIP, the utility used to package for RECEIVE FROMNETWORK, I find no similar assistance for packaging for RECEIVE ORDER. Have I simply overlooked it, or has IBM made a business decision not to support ISVs in supplying that format? The format of the downloadable f

Re: SHARE Sing Along Book

2007-03-07 Thread John P Kalinich
Tom Harper of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 03/07/2007 09:46:51 AM: > Does anyone know where I can find the words to some of the songs in the > SHARE sing-along book? I've Googled, but without any success... > File 033 on your CBT dial... FILE 033 is from the SHARE JES2 Committee,

Question on Changing Memory Allocations (was RE: Paging and SLOTS (was: Why are they so full ? RE: When Does the New LOCAL Get Used? RE: ILR006E COMMON PAGE DATA SET FULL,...)

2007-03-07 Thread Robert Pelletier
First of all. Thank you all very much for the help with paging. Would anyone know if I can change the memory allocated to my 2 lpars dynamically (I want to take some from TEST and give it to PROD)? If I can can someone briefly tell me how? Thanks all. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut

Re: Paging and SLOTS

2007-03-07 Thread Steven Conway
Bob, In answer to your question about having 256M real storage, and not to take anything away from the very good answers you've already gotten, I offer this as a comparison. I have two z/OS 1.7 systems with 256M real each. They are running no applications except GDPS. There are no monitors, n

Re: SHARE Sing Along Book

2007-03-07 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/7/2007 9:47:28 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know where I can find the words to some of the songs in the SHARE sing-along book? I've Googled, but without any success... >> ITYM JES2 Song book. It's on file33 of _www.cbttape.org_ (

Re: SHARE Sing Along Book

2007-03-07 Thread Tom Harper
Steve, I was just looking for a few of the songs that had references to JCL and HASP in them. Tom -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SHA

Re: SHARE Sing Along Book

2007-03-07 Thread Steve Comstock
Tom Harper wrote: Does anyone know where I can find the words to some of the songs in the SHARE sing-along book? I've Googled, but without any success... I've got a copy of the book. What do you want? -- -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com

SHARE Sing Along Book

2007-03-07 Thread Tom Harper
Does anyone know where I can find the words to some of the songs in the SHARE sing-along book? I've Googled, but without any success... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: Paging and SLOTS (was: Why are they so full ? RE: When Does the New LOCAL Get Used? RE: ILR006E COMMON PAGE DATA SET FULL,...)

2007-03-07 Thread Gerhard Adam
>Does having only 256meg for the machine result in more >paging? Well, it depends. The issue is saturation, so you need to see what the storage values are. Using SYSVIEW or RMF check the UIC value. In OS/390 the maximum value is 254 which indicates the "oldest" page in the system. High UIC

Re: IEBCOPY question?

2007-03-07 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Shirley you've come across people like Ted before? I'm surrounded by them. >Things are only problems if they perceive them first. Thanks for the ad hominem! All I was trying to say was a single batch process doesn't drive your MIP(s). - Too busy driving to stop for gas! --

Head's Up - OA19950 - Marks OA10632 PE : z/OS 1.8

2007-03-07 Thread Mark Zelden
Anyone who is running z/OS 1.8 in a mixed level environment and who also keep a close eye on PTFs that go PE and restore them, watch out for this one. OA19950 describes a console issue and marks OA10632 PE. However, OA10632 is the coexistance PTF that lets 1.8 IPL into a sysplex with lower leve

APAR OA16372

2007-03-07 Thread Beesley, Paul
Has anybody on this list experienced the symptoms in this apar ? The APAR was raised as a result of a problem experienced by one of our customers whgen upgrading to 1.7, and another customer wants to postpone their upgrade until a permanent fix is available. Our feeling is that the risk is very

Re: Paging and SLOTS (was: Why are they so full ? RE: When Doesthe New LOCAL Get Used? RE: ILR006E COMMON PAGE DATA SET FULL,...)

2007-03-07 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Veilleux, Jon L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>... > Kees said: > > More in general: your aux storage should be able to handle (almost) all > the virtual storage that your ASIDs can accumulate, in case most of real > storage must be emptied e.g. for a large

Re: Paging and SLOTS (was: Why are they so full ? RE: When Does the New LOCAL Get Used? RE: ILR006E COMMON PAGE DATA SET FULL,...)

2007-03-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 08:50:32 -0500, David Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 14:47 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: >> On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:26:49 -0500, David Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >Oh man. I had one user who every few months would ISPF-edit a large >> >sequential

Re: Paging and SLOTS (was: Why are they so full ? RE: When Doesthe New LOCAL Get Used? RE: ILR006E COMMON PAGE DATA SET FULL,...)

2007-03-07 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Kees said: More in general: your aux storage should be able to handle (almost) all the virtual storage that your ASIDs can accumulate, in case most of real storage must be emptied e.g. for a large dump. Kees do you have enough aux to allow for multiple 16exabyte users? There isn't enough DASD fo

Re: FDR question for Bruce Black

2007-03-07 Thread Alan Scott
There is no restriction on the execution of work. However, the backups are taken while the system has no scheduled work. It is very likely that there are some programmers working during this time however. -- For IBM-MAIN subscri

Looking for instructor

2007-03-07 Thread Steve Comstock
CAREFUL: reply-to is set to me; if you want to reply to one of the lists above, please set that first. Well, we're still struggling along. Not much work, but I'm forever the optimist. Anyway, one area where we see some potential for regular assignments, and still stay on the mainframe platform

Re: Paging and SLOTS (was: Why are they so full ? RE: When Does the New LOCAL Get Used? RE: ILR006E COMMON PAGE DATA SET FULL,...)

2007-03-07 Thread Rob Scott
Bob, Have you taken a look at Chapter 2 in the "z/OS Init and Tuning Guide"? It really does a good job of explaining the aux storage manager and the size and usage of local page datasets. If you have a system tool like Sysview (or MXI, RMF, Omegamon, Mainview..etc etc), you can observe the aux

Re: Paging and SLOTS (was: Why are they so full ? RE: When Doesthe New LOCAL Get Used? RE: ILR006E COMMON PAGE DATA SET FULL,...)

2007-03-07 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"David Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... > On Tue, 2007-03-06 at 14:47 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: > > On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:26:49 -0500, David Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Oh man. I had one user who every few months would ISPF-edit a large > > >se

Re: FDR question for Bruce Black

2007-03-07 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Alan, Do you allow batch work to be run or TSO to be accessed while the backups are running? -Original Message- From: Alan Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FDR question for Bruce Black We have been using DUM

Re: SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?

2007-03-07 Thread Alan Schwartz
I would and tried it with a vendor that said they could in their doc but the function had been removed from the website (supposed to be back sometime). For smaller packages such as maintenance the current options are fine but I like FROMNETWORK for products. Alan Schwartz Assurant Shared Busin

Re: IEBCOPY question?

2007-03-07 Thread J R
Surprising comments coming from someone who has spent years in the area of performance. Mark, Shirley you've come across people like Ted before? I'm surrounded by them. Things are only problems if they perceive them first. It's both frustrating and amusing when, a week or so later, they "disc

Re: SMP/E packaging for RECEIVE ORDER?

2007-03-07 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
>From Ralph Robison: Just curious... Have you seen customer interest in the use of RECEIVE FROMNETWORK for ISV software products? When it was first introduced, we expected to eventually see customer requests, but I've not seen any such requests. It would be goodness to be able to do this, but,

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