Re: Point-and-shoot (was: Cursor on IPCS sysout stream)

2009-03-27 Thread Dave Salt
Todd, It would be true to say that "Red cars can be used for traveling". However, it would be misleading to say that because the color of the car has nothing to do with it. In the same way, it is true to say "When you use the Dialog Tag Language, you can define a field as point and shoot". B

Re: Data erase on stacked backend tapes.

2009-03-27 Thread Stephen Mednick
> -Original Message- > We have the need to erase any residual data on some stacked > backend vsm tapes. I've heard you can do this with > FATS/FATAR but wondered if there is any other method to do > this? Everything else I have seen seems to require the tapes > be added to your tape m

Re: Point-and-shoot (was: Cursor on IPCS sysout stream)

2009-03-27 Thread Todd Burch
Dave said "FYI: Point-and-shoot has nothing to do with Dialog Tag Language." Nothing, of course, other than being an exact term and concept used by IBM for describing a facility of the ISPF Dialog Tag Language? http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r10/topic/com.ibm.zos.r10.f54 dt00/hp

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 15:21 -0500 on 03/27/2009, Tom Marchant wrote about Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize: If there is a block size coded in the DCB macro (or FD), that is the block size that will be used. JCL will not override it. Neither will the label or the DSCB. True. OTOH, the Tape Label or DSCB Block Size h

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 15:36 -0500 on 03/27/2009, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize: "How to Lie with Statitics" topic="mode". Huff's 50 year book still lives and is still in print. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / arch

Point-and-shoot (was: Cursor on IPCS sysout stream)

2009-03-27 Thread Dave Salt
> From: pro...@burchwoodusa.com > For "Point and Shoot", that is an ISPF term. In an ISPF panel definition, > when you use the Dialog Tag Language, you can define a field as "point and > shoot". Placing your cursor on the field and pressing enter allows you to > act upon that field to do some other

Re: Cursor on IPCS sysout stream

2009-03-27 Thread Dave Salt
> From: pro...@burchwoodusa.com > For "Point and Shoot", that is an ISPF term. In an ISPF panel definition, > when you use the Dialog Tag Language, you can define a field as "point and > shoot". Placing your cursor on the field and pressing enter allows you to > act upon that field to do some other

Re: Cursor on IPCS sysout stream

2009-03-27 Thread Todd Burch
Hi Miklos. For REPORT to work like you want it to, you have to first MAX to the bottom in the IPCS output stream. IPCS is pretty smart when formatting dump data, and only formats a little over a screen worth of data at a time. Entering REPORT will only pass over to BROWSE or VIEW what is alr

Smoking Power Supply Alarms Net Brokerage House

2009-03-27 Thread Timothy Sipples
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03/27/smokey_the_power_supply/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http

Re: Pushing Your Product

2009-03-27 Thread Timothy Sipples
I have a self-inflicted policy that, if I mention a product, I try to mention all the products that I'm aware of in the same category. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bam

Re: Need single character unique identifier for each system in a sysplex. 0-F is fine.

2009-03-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Smith, Sean M wrote: Fellow IBMers and Mark. Zelden in particular, Mark *is* a celebrity! ;-) I am modifying an assembler program and I have a need to have a single digit unique identifier for a system within a SYSPLEX. I started by looking at Mark Zelden's IPLINFO (thanks again Mark...th

Re: Pushing Your Product

2009-03-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Eric Bielefeld wrote: I've never had a problem with posters mentioning their products, and even promoting them on the list. If they post often and every time push their products, thats too much, but an occasional mention such as in this thread, is not offensive - and I think the majority of

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:54:51 -0400, Bill Fairchild wrote: >... >In 1982 I attended a SHARE session in New Orleans in which the IBM presenter said that he had surveyed a huge number of data sets in an internal IBM development data center, and had found that the single most commonly used block

Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture"

2009-03-27 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com (Tom Marchant) writes: > Indeed, one could build a 3390 with only one recording surface and an arm > that has 15 heads. > > IAC, the emulation of such a large numb

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:21:20 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: >... >If there is a block size coded in the DCB macro (or FD), that is the >block size that will be used. JCL will not override it. Neither will >the label or the DSCB. >... It's worth remembering something said much earlier in this thr

Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture"

2009-03-27 Thread Bob Shannon
>the IBM presenter (Bill Malleck?) Bill Malik. He went to the Gartner Group after IBM. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the me

ANOTHER ROUND OF IBM LAYOFFS

2009-03-27 Thread STEVEN DAHARI
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ANOTHER ROUND OF IBM LAYOFFS

2009-03-27 Thread STEVEN DAHARI
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Re: Doubleword alignment (was: Optimal tape blocksize)

2009-03-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:34:01 +, john gilmore wrote: > >The chief problem with not having "the end of one's [i-th] buffer" >doubleword-aligned is that the beginning of the (i+1)-th and all subsequent >buffers will not have their beginnings doubleword aligned. > Well, FSVO "all". >A logical r

Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture"

2009-03-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:41:10 -0500, Chase, John wrote: >> >> Well, if IBM's new DASD architecture were manufactured in the same >> manner as previous DASD devices, you would have 278,921,216 tracks >> on each surface. What diameter do you think such platters would be? >> How long would it take the

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Will COBOL ever outgrow the default of CONTAINS 1? Perhaps by installation >PARM option? Perhaps by education of App programmers? Of course, the nice thing about standards is there are so manyu to choose from. (8-{]} - Too busy driving to stop for gas! --

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread esst...@juno.com
Paul Peliniski wrote >Looks like the USA needs H1-B VISAs to import qualified applicants >because >IBM is sending qualified Americans overseas to work for > "developing country" >salary. Dont event think of That. there are very few companies actually hireing here in the USA. Companies are doing

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:54:51 -0400, Bill Fairchild wrote: > >In 1982 I attended a SHARE session in New Orleans in which the IBM presenter >said that he had surveyed a huge number of data sets in an internal IBM >development data center, and had found that the single most commonly used >block siz

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:42:46 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > >I've seen very many apps people who didn't know about block size efficiencies. There are people in every area who know less than they should. When I see people criticizing any group with such a broad statement, I wonder where the problem r

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:03:08 -0500, Dave Kopischke wrote: > >When we switched, we found some programs specify block sizes and blocking >factors. If this happens, SDB doesn't get invoked. In this case, you HAVE to >specify a reasonable blocksize in your JCL. > But that won't work if BLKSIZE is coded

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:03:08 -0500, Dave Kopischke wrote: > >When we switched, we found some programs specify block sizes and blocking >factors. If this happens, SDB doesn't get invoked. In this case, you HAVE to >specify a reasonable blocksize in your JCL. If there is a block size coded in the DC

Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture"

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:20:34 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:43:36 -0700, Raymond Noal wrote: > >>Well, if your new DASD architecture was manufactured in the >>same manner as previous DASD devices, you would have 32,769 >>spinning platters to deal with and an access arm with

Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture"

2009-03-27 Thread Rick Fochtman
Well, if IBM's new DASD architecture were manufactured in the same manner as previous DASD devices, you would have 278,921,216 tracks on each surface. What diameter do you think such platters would be? How long would it take the a

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread Paul Peplinski
>On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:47:46 -0400, larry macioce wrote: > >>What I found "amusing" is IBM is going to help the unemployed from here in >>the US to obtain visas to work in the 3rd world ..,(I'll be politically >>correct) counties.Gosh why is th tax base falling?? >>mace Looks like

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Gibney, Dave
Untrue cases a rare, should be getting more rare, and should be fixed! Some utilities (Syncsort) allow you to specify where to copy blksize from input or use SDB Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture"

2009-03-27 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > > [ snip ] > > Well, if IBM's new DASD architecture were manufactured in the same > manner as previous DASD devices, you would have 278,921,216 tracks > on each surface. What diameter do you think su

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:47:46 -0400, larry macioce wrote: >What I found "amusing" is IBM is going to help the unemployed from here in >the US to obtain visas to work in the 3rd world ..,(I'll be politically >correct) counties.Gosh why is th tax base falling?? >mace > I read this so

RES: TMON MVS Exception Reporting

2009-03-27 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
We don't have Tmon, so i can only guess, but you can do the same way you did before. Instead of triggering a command to submit a job, just issue Rexxname parm1 parm2 ( is your Sysrexx subsystem name). Sysrexx have some limitations but should work. Atenciosamente / Regards / Salud

Re: Need single character unique identifier for each system in a sysplex. 0-F is fine.

2009-03-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:44:18 -0700, Smith, Sean M wrote: >Fellow IBMers and Mark. Zelden in particular, > >I am modifying an assembler program and I have a need to have a single >digit unique identifier for a system within a SYSPLEX. I started by >looking at Mark Zelden's IPLINFO (thanks again M

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Tony B.
Thoroughly understandable. Hmm, they sold DASD back then didn't they ? ;-) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 1:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:54:10 -0700, Walter Marguccio wrote: > >I agree 100%. I told our programmers long ago to stick to >BLKSIZE=0 *and* DSORG=PS for datasets on DASD. This always work >(BLKSIZE close to half track). This is not always true > >I can't understand why such poor BLKSIZE are ch

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread Ron
and this is related to mainframe how? On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:29:57 -0500, Eric Bielefeld wrote: >And IBM's stock probably went up when they announced the layoffs, like the >stocks of so many companies do when they announce layoffs. > >Its the same principle in play when your local or stat

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Bill Fairchild
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 2:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize >I've seen very many apps people who didn't know about block size efficiencies. In 1982 I attended a SHARE

Pushing Your Product

2009-03-27 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I've never had a problem with posters mentioning their products, and even promoting them on the list. If they post often and every time push their products, thats too much, but an occasional mention such as in this thread, is not offensive - and I think the majority of posters would agree. I

Need single character unique identifier for each system in a sysplex. 0-F is fine.

2009-03-27 Thread Smith, Sean M
Fellow IBMers and Mark. Zelden in particular, I am modifying an assembler program and I have a need to have a single digit unique identifier for a system within a SYSPLEX. I started by looking at Mark Zelden's IPLINFO (thanks again Mark...this has been a huge boon to me REXX skill set as I ref

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Programmers who set blocksize in the application code should be "educated", >perhaps using a "cluestick" :) I've seen very many apps people who didn't know about block size efficiencies. Many had over 15 years experience. I knew one who had just copied the same FD's for many years, just changing

Re: Data erase on stacked backend tapes.

2009-03-27 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Why not a private solicitation off list? I've relegated one TPV to my trash bin for this. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information & Communications Technology Crawford & Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 cell: 770-666-7969 e

Re: Data erase on stacked backend tapes.

2009-03-27 Thread Larry Crilley
I don't like to advertise on the listserv, but since UHC is already a T-REX customer, you might want to check out our Xtinct product. It will wipe data (make it Xtinct!) on tape and/or disk. http://www.dino-software.com/products_xtinct_factsheet.php -Original Message- From: IBM Mainfram

Re: TMON MVS Exception Reporting

2009-03-27 Thread Laine, Rogers
We will be running on 1.9 in a few weeks. My question is how would I code this on the TMON exception screen to invoke the REXX program? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO Sent: Friday, March 27, 20

Re: Data erase on stacked backend tapes.

2009-03-27 Thread Don Bolton
John, OpenTech Systems also has a tape erase utility that will erase tapes which is part of our Tape/Copy product. If the tapes are in the TMC, the utility can check the TMC to make sure that the tape is in scratch status. This is done to help prevent us from erasing a non-scratch tape. Erase

Re: Data erase on stacked backend tapes.

2009-03-27 Thread Benik, John E
One of my coworkers suggested Ditto ERT. Looking through the manual it looks like this may work with BLP so no TMS entry needed. Has anybody used this to erase tape data? John -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:20:43 -0400, John Kington wrote: > >It is very possible that Natural is using the dcb exit that I mentioned in >my other email. Hopefully, the means and values are documented somewhere >and even better, changeable. > IBM has been known to repair by APAR components that preven

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread Eric Bielefeld
And IBM's stock probably went up when they announced the layoffs, like the stocks of so many companies do when they announce layoffs. Its the same principle in play when your local or state government asks for federal tax money to pay for a project. If your city of 50,000 can get a $1,000,000

Re: MVS NFS client B78 5C on z/os 1.9

2009-03-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:56:05 -0400, Schumacher, Otto wrote: >You have just begun. There are several vendor software that do not >support the CSA Key change. Good luck. > Yes, but with some of those other vendors such a problem might not be APARable. I don't see the problem on 1.10, but I don't kn

Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture"

2009-03-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:43:36 -0700, Raymond Noal wrote: >Well, if your new DASD architecture was manufactured in the same manner as >previous DASD devices, you would have 32,769 spinning platters to deal with >and an access arm with 65,535 R/W heads to move back and forth with all of the >impli

Re: z/10 HMC/SE LAN

2009-03-27 Thread Petersen, Jim
Communications to the HMC, Communications to NTP Servers if you use NTP for your time source for Server Time Protocol(STP). A couple of uses that you would need connectivity from the SE Laptops for. ___ Jim Petersen MVS - Lead Systems Engineer Home Depo

Re: OMVS Sysplex Root in a multi-site Parallel Sysplex

2009-03-27 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:49:07 +0900, Timothy Sipples wrote: >z/OS 1.10 has some functionality that you may find highly relevant to your >zFS (or HFS) root directory question. I'll just quote from the z/OS 1.10 >announcement letter since it's a pretty good summary: > >Hope that helps. Yes, for th

Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture"

2009-03-27 Thread Walt Farrell
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:05:29 -0500, Eric Bielefeld wrote: >Is the new format available in z/OS 1.11? That's what I gathered from some >of the postings, but it didn't seem definitive. I should probably look at >the announcement, but right now I'm feeling lazy. > z/OS V1.10: VSAM previewed for z

RES: TMON MVS Exception Reporting

2009-03-27 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
If you are zOS 1.9 or above you can use SYSREXX invoked by Tmon. Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto Banco Bradesco S/A 4254 - DPCD Engenharia de Software Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 R: 22021 Fax: 55 11 4197-2814 |-Mensagem origina

Change RETPD for existing HSM DUMPCLASS tape volume

2009-03-27 Thread John Kelly
Does anyone know if there's a way to change the retention date for an existing HSM dump volume, rather than the TMS expiration which is PERMANENT? We create YEARLY tapes by changing the retention period of the MONTHLY DUMPCLASS retention period- yeah I know but I just drive the bus. Jack Kelly

Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture"

2009-03-27 Thread Spencer, Mike
The new format is available in z/OS 1.10 with limitations as to what data may actually use the EAV space. Only VSAM data can reside in this area, and even the VSAM data has limitations. z/OS 1.11 will reduce some of the data restrictions. Michael Spencer BMC Software -Original Message-

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread Mark Zelden
The fact that there are layoffs is probably relative to this list. All of the politics in most of the appends isn't. Can we please kill the thread or take it over to alt.politics.*? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance

Re: Data erase on stacked backend tapes.

2009-03-27 Thread Mark Zelden
(sorry for part of the duplication.) On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:05:11 -0500, John Benik wrote: >We have the need to erase any residual data on some stacked backend vsm >tapes. I've heard you can do this with FATS/FATAR but wondered if there is >any other method to do this? Everything else I have s

Re: Data erase on stacked backend tapes.

2009-03-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:05:11 -0500, John Benik wrote: >We have the need to erase any residual data on some stacked backend vsm >tapes. I've heard you can do this with FATS/FATAR but wondered if there is >any other method to do this? Everything else I have seen seems to require >the tapes be add

TMON MVS Exception Reporting

2009-03-27 Thread Laine, Rogers
We are currently using TMON for MVS to trap certain console messages to trigger a console command string to submit a batch job. We would like to know if it is possible to execute a REXX program from the console instead of submitting a batch job? Since these trapped console message will be happe

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread Mohammad Khan
No need for any apologies (as far as I'm concerned !). I found the comment illogical rather than insensitive. Mohammad On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:41:37 -0400, Daniel McLaughlin wrote: >Upon rereading my statement it was a very poor choice on my part to use >the 'culture' phrase. > >I sincerely apo

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Gibney, Dave
There is a setting in your Natural Nucleus parms for blksize, it should be set to use SDB. I'm not our NAT admin, I don't remember the specific parm or value. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Walter Marguccio > Sent: Fr

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Gibney, Dave
Actually, DATACLAS comes first, which can then be overridden as stated. A "good" SMS configuration always sets a default DSORG of PS. Programmers who set blocksize in the application code should be "educated", perhaps using a "cluestick" :) > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discu

Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture"

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:05:29 -0500, Eric Bielefeld wrote: >Is the new format available in z/OS 1.11? 1.10 for VSAM only. > I should probably look at the announcement, Yes >but right now I'm feeling lazy. evidently. -- Tom Marchant --

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread esst...@juno.com
Daniel McLaughlin wrote; >Upon rereading my statement it was a very poor choice on my part to >use the >'culture' phrase. >I sincerely apologize for this and if anyone was insulted. My filter >is in >need of attention. There is No need to Appologize, what You said Is the TRUTH.

Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture"

2009-03-27 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Is the new format available in z/OS 1.11? That's what I gathered from some of the postings, but it didn't seem definitive. I should probably look at the announcement, but right now I'm feeling lazy. Eric Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 --

Re: Copy IODF

2009-03-27 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/27/2009 9:55:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com writes: Aside from that, when you copy the IODF, be sure that the copy in only one extent. You can perform a dynamic activation of an IODF in multiple extents, but you can't use it at IPL time. >> Do

Re: Copy IODF

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:36:25 -0500, Fred Hoffman wrote: >I would like know whether copying a zos 1.7 iodf to a 1.9 system and >then activating the iodf will work. Are there any gotchas? Check the z/OS 1.9 migration guide for any considerations for using an IODF created on a 1.7 system. Aside f

Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture"

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 08:07:29 -0500, Mohammad Khan wrote: >Please forgive my ignorance but how does robbing Hs to pay Cs increase the >total addressable storage ? Unless off course those Hs were for show only. >Mohammad As Bill pointed out, 3390 and 3380 have only 15 tracks per cylinder, so the he

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Upon rereading my statement it was a very poor choice on my part to use the 'culture' phrase. I sincerely apologize for this and if anyone was insulted. My filter is in need of attention. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information & Communications Technology Crawford & Comp

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread Michael liberatore
Another example of Corporate Greed. I guess the Chief Extortion and Chief Fraudulent Officers' need a bigger bonus? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of larry macioce Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.ed

Re: Data erase on stacked backend tapes.

2009-03-27 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/27/2009 9:26:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, john_e_be...@uhc.com writes: any other method to do this? Everything else I have seen seems to require the tapes be added to your tape management system and even then there is some doubt that this will work. >> Got over 16

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread Bill Fairchild
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of larry macioce Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 10:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs >Bailout or stim money..it all comes from the US taxpayer..It should stay here to help keep employe

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread Mary Anne Matyaz
"IBM isn't requesting bailout money. It is seeking contracts funded by the stimulus package." I understand that you're simply correcting someone else, but in my mind, it doesn't matter. Stimulus funds should stimulate the US economy, not the BRIC economies. Mary Anne On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:15

Copy IODF

2009-03-27 Thread Fred Hoffman
I would like know whether copying a zos 1.7 iodf to a 1.9 system and then activating the iodf will work. Are there any gotchas? Tia, Fred Hoffman -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mohammad Khan > > What has culture got to do with this ? Job losses won't hurt any less even if > they did embrace our culture. > Mohammad > > On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:20:06 -0400, Daniel McLaughlin > wrote: > > >Yep.

Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture"

2009-03-27 Thread Rich Smrcina
Mohammad Khan wrote: Please forgive my ignorance but how does robbing Hs to pay Cs increase the total addressable storage ? Unless off course those Hs were for show only. Mohammad The high order H's were not used. Since they were not used, they are being re-provisioned as high order cylin

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread larry macioce
Bailout or stim money..it all comes from the US taxpayer..It should stay here to help keep employees and build the economy here On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Bob Shannon wrote: > >Makes me think that if a company comes to Uncle for a bail out that said > >company should be made to bring jobs b

Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture"

2009-03-27 Thread Bill Fairchild
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mohammad Khan Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 9:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture" >Please forgive my ignorance but how does robbing Hs to pay Cs increase

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Thank you for the clarification. I have now made my last remark about the situation... Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information & Communications Technology Crawford & Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tucker GA 30084 phone: 770-621-3256 fax: 770-621-3237 cell: 770-666-7969 emai

Data erase on stacked backend tapes.

2009-03-27 Thread John Benik
We have the need to erase any residual data on some stacked backend vsm tapes. I've heard you can do this with FATS/FATAR but wondered if there is any other method to do this? Everything else I have seen seems to require the tapes be added to your tape management system and even then there is

MSTC Terminal Server Connection, RDP (Remote Desktop Protocol)

2009-03-27 Thread Michael liberatore
Would like to know how I could use MSTC to submit or start a bat or rexx process from another server. Such As RDP from server A to server B to start a process? Could return codes be passed back to server A? Thanks in advance! --

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread Mohammad Khan
What has culture got to do with this ? Job losses won't hurt any less even if they did embrace our culture. Mohammad On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:20:06 -0400, Daniel McLaughlin wrote: >Yep. Let's employ people who don't embrace our culture while our economy >takes another whack! > -

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread esst...@juno.com
Daniel McLaughlin wrote >Makes me think that if a company comes to Uncle for a bail out that >said >company should be made to bring jobs back to the states if they >have sent any >offshore. I agree, I also dont know why you would offshore work to less skilled and less experienced people, whe

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread Bob Shannon
>Makes me think that if a company comes to Uncle for a bail out that said >>company should be made to bring jobs back to the states if they have sent >>any offshore. IBM isn't requesting bailout money. It is seeking contracts funded by the stimulus package. Bob Shannon --

Re: "Cost" of RACF vs. small file I/O

2009-03-27 Thread Walt Farrell
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:58:14 -0400, P S wrote: >Sure, I've been being unnecessarily cagey -- trying to keep the >scenario simple, and overdoing it! Sorry 'bout that. As you've now learned, trying to hide details often results in getting less than useful answers. > >I think it really is an acces

Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture"

2009-03-27 Thread Mohammad Khan
Please forgive my ignorance but how does robbing Hs to pay Cs increase the total addressable storage ? Unless off course those Hs were for show only. Mohammad On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 13:48:00 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: > >Not the CCW, the disk address. The old, familiar R is now >cccHR

Re: Number of members in a PDS?

2009-03-27 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bruce Hewson > > Hello John, > > LISTDSI will ALLOCATE and OPEN the dataset - make sure you have READ > access to all the datasets So we noticed :-) -jc- ---

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Makes me think that if a company comes to Uncle for a bail out that said company should be made to bring jobs back to the states if they have sent any offshore. Daniel McLaughlin Z-Series Systems Programmer Information & Communications Technology Crawford & Company 4680 N. Royal Atlanta Tuck

Re: Another Round Of IBM Layoffs

2009-03-27 Thread larry macioce
What I found "amusing" is IBM is going to help the unemployed from here in the US to obtain visas to work in the 3rd world ..,(I'll be politically correct) counties.Gosh why is th tax base falling?? mace On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Edward Jaffe wrote: > Daniel McLaughlin wrot

Re: "Cost" of RACF vs. small file I/O

2009-03-27 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of P S > > Sure, I've been being unnecessarily cagey -- trying to keep the > scenario simple, and overdoing it! Sorry 'bout that. > > I think it really is an access control issue: we have symmetric > encryption keys that

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread John Kington
Walter, > Kees, Ted, Terry, > > thanks very much for your reply. I first looked at 'z/OS 1.9 DSMS > Using Data Sets', > but could not find such a direct statement. I will pass this info to > our programmers > and see how Natural can make a better use of blksize when data is > written to tape. >

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread John Kington
Walter, > > I thought BLKSIZE=0 would also let the system choose the optimal bloksize > for datasets on tape. I'm starting to review datasets on tape the way Lizette > is doing, and I can see that in some cases the chosen bloksize is really poor. > (i.e. RECFM=FB,LRECL=22,BLKSIZE=0 in jcl, but

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:32:35 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > >When SDB came out, you still had to specify something. >In other words, BLKSIZE had to be coded. Not true. If you code a DCB macro without a BLKSIZE, the blocksize field in the DCB is left as zero. That is not the same as specifying zero

Re: Cursor on IPCS sysout stream

2009-03-27 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Hi Todd Thank you for your answer The "REPORT VIEW/BROWSE" would be o.k, but for the LEDATA report I get only a part of the list. What do you maen about "point and shoot" ? I have modified the BLSPNTRC panel, and now I'm getting more or less , I wanted to have. Todd Burch wrote: If you

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Walter Marguccio
From: "Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM" > The order is: F1DSCB, which can be overruled by JCL, which can be > overruled by the application at OPEN time. Kees, Ted, Terry, thanks very much for your reply. I first looked at 'z/OS 1.9 DSMS Using Data Sets', but could not find such a direct statement. I wil

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread R.S.
Field, Alan C. pisze: Is it old school thinking. Isn't as close to 32670 as you can the optimal? If you use BLKSIZE=0 in your JCL you should be achieving that. BLKSIZE=0 is *not enough* for tapes (in general). See BLKSZLIM in DD and DEVSUP parameter. Last, but not least is the application,

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi Walter, With regard to "are you saying that the application program which actually writes the tape has the last word to decide how to block the dataset on tape?" Historically DCB information has been acquired via the Open/Merge process which applies to data sets irrespective of them being tape

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Ted MacNEIL" wrote in message news:<1799752802-1238150510-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-796 5151...@bxe1305.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>... > >are you saying that the application program which actually writes the tape has the last word to decide how to block the dataset on tape ? > > Th

Re: Performance problems

2009-03-27 Thread Andrew Rowley
My first question would be what do your WLM definitions look like? It might not make much difference if you have lots of extra capacity, but if you are constrained, even for relatively short periods of time (which may be difficult to detect with RMF), a good or bad WLM policy can make a big dif

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