SCRT Delivery

2010-04-11 Thread גדי בן אבי
Hi, Today I received notification of a new version of SCRT. It would be a lot simpler (at least for me) if SCRT was distributed as a load module. Having the object embedded in JCL is a point a failure. It’s just too easy to make changes by mistake. I would really like SCRT to be distributed as

Re: Non-SMS-managed LOGR offload data sets

2010-04-11 Thread Barbara Nitz
Nick, >My only advice, if such a thing works, is that you should consider >separate HLQ or EHLQ values for each log stream that has the same name >in both sysplexes. That would avoid thrashing when allocating offload >data sets, where the sysplexes would be competing for the same data >set names.

Re: google groups

2010-04-11 Thread Ed Gould
From: Darren Evans-Young To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sat, April 10, 2010 10:56:26 AM Subject: Re: google groups On Wed, 7 Apr 2010, Ed Gould wrote: > >I have had a problem with the person responsible for the list for about 9 >months (approximately). i think by

Re: Pseudonyms (was: CA is laying off 1,000 workers ...)

2010-04-11 Thread Ron Hawkins
Ted, Al right I have to come clean. I stole my name from a guy in Australia. My real name is Chris P Bacon, but I'm always getting deleted from Listservs because people think it is a joke. My friends Dick Trickle and Warren Peace suggested I do this. I hope you will not attack me for being a cow

Re: SYSPLEX/CFRM Couple dataset(s) relationship

2010-04-11 Thread Barbara Nitz
Mark, >I agree with you that deleting the CFRM CDS should have fixed our problem >but I'm 99% sure I deleted and redefined and it still didn't work. Deleting >and >redefining the sysplex CDS and re-ipling did. I think back in 2004 or 2005 I ran into the same problem. Ever since I've made it a

Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a $50m hit in pre-tax charges relating to the jobs cull

2010-04-11 Thread Ron Hawkins
John, I think zMAN is a different kettle of fish to P-E. zMAN has acknowledged his mistake and humbled himself twice. The only thing stopping us moving on are a few predators that want to keep taking bites out of his original faux pas, his moniker, and his anonymity. While P-E was a dick, I thou

Re: Font names for AFP fonts

2010-04-11 Thread Natarajan Mohan
Frank, I don't think those manuals are accessible any more on IBM web site :-( Natarajan From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Frank Swarbrick [frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 4:51 PM To: IBM-

Fw: Whatever

2010-04-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
To all at IBM-Main: Thanks to RIM, this last note was intended for zMan only, and got sent everywhere. I appoligise to all (but one individual), as I intended to make no more public comments on this, anymore. Again, I appologise. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -Original Message-

Re: Whatever

2010-04-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Your type makes me laugh! You can sit there and hide behind your cowardly anonymity, and attempt to defuse it by telling me I'm wrong? Wow! What a brave and smart man you are! At least, I assume you're a man, but probably a denatured one, since you're still hiding behind an alias! But, don't w

Re: Whatever

2010-04-11 Thread zMan
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > > I'm willing to take my lumps. > > Is zMan? > I've been feeling quite badly that, as noted earlier, my lame attempt at humor fell flat. Your vituperation is actually making me feel a lot better. Keep it up.

Re: Whatever

2010-04-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Up until now I've shared your view that you get unfairly criticized on this >list. >Now I'm going to killfile you for this. Who's calling who names now? Unlike >other parts of North America, the US has a long history of understanding the >desire and or need for anonymity. Do what you wish!

Re: pseudonyms

2010-04-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>pseudonyms are not essentially evil I never said they were. My issue with them is using them to hide behind while making inappropriate comments. Again, I said there's nothing wrong with using them to help; to harm is a different issue. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -

Re: Font names for AFP fonts

2010-04-11 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Do you have "ABOUT TYPE: IBM's Technical Reference for 240-Pel Digitized Type" (S544-3516) around? If not you can download it, but 1) It is a "scanned" PDF and thus does not allow for text searches 2) It's huge (because of item 1) Nonetheless: http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=pub1s54

Re: OS/400 and z/OS

2010-04-11 Thread Timothy Sipples
>AFAIK the current name is something like i/OS. Almost. It's called simply IBM i. IBM i is an operating system that runs on IBM Power Systems. - - - - - Timothy Sipples Resident Architect (Based in Singapore) STG Value Creation and Complex Deals IBM Growth Markets E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.c

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2010-04-11 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 4/11/2010 at 06:44 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > The cry of the coward. > You have to be willing to stand up and be counted, or your comments are just > noise. Up until now I've shared your view that you get unfairly criticized on this list. Now I'm going to killfile you for this. Who's ca

Re: pseudonyms

2010-04-11 Thread john gilmore
I deeply regret having giving even inadvertent encouragement to this passel of punsters. My substantive points: 1) pseudonyms are not essentially evil; and 2) "Arouet" will survive while lycéeans survive to be taught its denotation; but "Voltaire" will survive while some remnant of the Wes

Re: pseudonyms

2010-04-11 Thread Tony Harminc
On 11 April 2010 19:25, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 22:51:43 +, john gilmore wrote: > >>Pseudonyms have a long and often honorable history.  How many of you who are >>not francophone know that Voltaire's "real" name is François-Marie Arouet? >> > Well, that's obviously an anag

Re: How many mainframes are there?

2010-04-11 Thread Jim Marshall
> >I just wanted to know how exclusive a club am I in. Then of course I have to decide if I want to belong to a club that would have me a member. Hoping it doesn't get to that. > Never looked at IBM Mainframes as a club. Long ago the kind of people who were attracted to Mainframes were ones en

Re: pseudonyms

2010-04-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 22:51:43 +, john gilmore wrote: >Pseudonyms have a long and often honorable history. How many of you who are >not francophone know that Voltaire's "real" name is François-Marie Arouet? > Well, that's obviously an anagram for Arouet Le Jeune. -- gil -

Re: Z/OS Education Path

2010-04-11 Thread Chris Mason
Gaa A. Gamal As Lizette Koehler suggests, a good place to start with self-education material is the redbook page: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/ For z/OS, there is a manual seemingly created precisely for a neophyte in z/OS: Introduction to the New Mainframe: z/OS Basics, SG24-6366-01 http://w

Re: pseudonyms

2010-04-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I agree that supplying one's legal name is appropriate, indeed highly >desirable, in most circumstances; but there may be others in which it is >inappropriate or even interdicted by an employer; and turning outselves into >anyway ineffectual identity police seems to me to be a poor idea. Tha

Re: pseudonyms

2010-04-11 Thread john gilmore
Pseudonyms have a long and often honorable history. How many of you who are not francophone know that Voltaire's "real" name is François-Marie Arouet? I agree that supplying one's legal name is appropriate, indeed highly desirable, in most circumstances; but there may be others in which it i

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2010-04-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
You're assuming my GMail name isn't my real name. Not a safe assumption. The display name, the email account name, and the actual name are unrelated. So, you really are: zedgarhoo...@gmail.com I doubt it! We don't even know if you're really Ted, now do we? No you don't, but I'm not hiding anyt

Re: Rexx to submit job

2010-04-11 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
This is very simple, QUEUE, "//JOBNAME JOB 'MYJOB',MSGCLASS=X,NOTIFY="US",CLASS=4, " QUEUE, "// SCHENV=,TIME=1440 " QUEUE, "//"" QUEUE, "//* JCL COMMENT

Re: Pseudonyms (was: CA is laying off 1,000 workers ...)

2010-04-11 Thread zMan
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > >What's "anonymous"? How do they verify? > > It starts with names with that in it. > > But, names like SUBSCRIBE-IBM-Main, zMan, SYSPROG, DB2DBA, OSE2PS2, etc, > are a good start, as well. > You're assuming my GMail name isn't my real name.

Re: Pseudonyms (was: CA is laying off 1,000 workers ...)

2010-04-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>What's "anonymous"? How do they verify? It starts with names with that in it. But, names like SUBSCRIBE-IBM-Main, zMan, SYSPROG, DB2DBA, OSE2PS2, etc, are a good start, as well. It's not perfect, but it's a good thing as far as I'm concerned. My yahoo id is eamacneil because I tried with ted

Pseudonyms (was: CA is laying off 1,000 workers ...)

2010-04-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 20:06:29 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > >The DB2-L is removing all anomymous ids. >I think that's a valid approach. > What's "anonymous"? How do they verify? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a cull

2010-04-11 Thread Ted MacNEIL
> Are you unable to judge comments on their own merit? Do you require a name > before you're able to judge whether something is correct or not? If so, I > would say you're unable to judge content. I disagree. At least when I say something stupid, I use my own name. If someody has to hide behind an

Re: Console's behavior when no paths available

2010-04-11 Thread W. Kevin Kelley
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:57:45 -0400, Scott T. Harder wrote: >I thought console buffer shortages were not supposed to happen anymore... >period?? > Scott, Any finite resource can be exhausted, and console buffers -- being in below- the-line 24-bit storage -- can certainly be exhausted. The most l

Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a cull

2010-04-11 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: "Non scrivetemi" Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 6:30 PM Subject: Re: (slightly OT) CA is laying off 1,000 workers and expects to take a cull eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com (Eric Bielefeld) wrote: I've always wondered about peopl

Re: Z/OS Education Path

2010-04-11 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/11/2010 8:34:16 A.M. Central Daylight Time, st...@trainersfriend.com writes: Well, that's kind of a nebulous question. You ask everything from us and give us nothing. Who are you? Where are you located? What operating system are you working on? What aspects of communica

How to Invetory OPS/MVS

2010-04-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am trying to determine the best way to inventory OPS/MVS environment. I have inherited this product, so I am now trying to pull together the MSG/REQ/CMD/etc. stuff into a cross reference. What affects production batch and what affects system function. I am currently do this manually,

Re: Saturation Data Point (SDP)

2010-04-11 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 4/11/2010 5:26:55 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ba...@mxg.com writes: from IBM Confidential documents and Rand had violated the contract that gave them access to that material. >> Yeah, guess I was trying to sugar coat for the list...only two Metro stops away from leading

Re: OS/400 and z/OS

2010-04-11 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Alan - Thanks for the link. I'd like to get out more - go to Share, the IBM z/conference, but my employer won't pay for any of that. I certainly can't afford it any more on my own dime. I've come to a point in my career where I don't really want to learn something totally new. If I would ha

Re: Z/OS Education Path

2010-04-11 Thread Steve Comstock
you wrote: Hi all, Any professional suggest a full path training and documentation for a New Communication server programmer which is new to mainframe technology and Z/OS Any help , dumps, training , CBT and other is great help thanks Well, that's kind of a nebulous question. You ask every

Re: Strange email from IBM

2010-04-11 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 04/09/2010 at 07:44 AM, "Kelman, Tom" said: >I just received an email that comes from nets...@us.ibm.com, You may have received an e-mail with a From header field with that address, but what makes you believe that it actually is from that address? Look at the Received header fields to

Re: Z/OS Education Path

2010-04-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
This has been discussed in the past here. I am sure Steve Comstock will respond to you. But you need to know about the operating system as well as the Vtam (Commnication Server) side of things. So you can contact Steve for his training programs, or IBM or CA or many others. Knowing where you are

Re: setsockopt problem

2010-04-11 Thread Chris Mason
Cinar >...> I work on a C program on our zOS 1.9 environment. You may have read the manual but it appears you were *not* using the V1R9.0 version of the manual. I have confirmed as follows that Phil Sidler is correct and SO_RCVTIMEO is introduced in V1R10.0: - Go to http://www-03.ibm.com/syst

Re: Saturation Data Point (SDP)

2010-04-11 Thread Barry Merrill
The issue with "RLS", the Rand PL/S Compiler, was not just copyright, but it had been created from IBM Confidential documents and Rand had violated the contract that gave them access to that material. http://www.mxg.com/thebuttonman/resultPOP.asp?d1=button&d2=213 Barry Merrill -

Z/OS Education Path

2010-04-11 Thread SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN gaa a. gamal
Hi all, Any professional suggest a full path training and documentation for a New Communication server programmer which is new to mainframe technology and Z/OS Any help , dumps, training , CBT and other is great help thanks --