Re: GML (was Unix systems and Serialization mechanism)

2010-07-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Mmmm, no, GML was first implemented using Script macros. Re-read my post. That's what I said. >It has nothing to do with Script per se. That sentence make no sense. How can a thing written in the macros of another have nothing to do with it? That's like saying that assembler macroes have nothi

Re: SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNTS

2010-07-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 22:35:23 -0500, Chase, John wrote: > >The package contains about 3 GiB of product and about 5.5 GiB of >accumulated maintenance. SMP/E apparently wants to process the >maintenance first. > It needs to process the SMPPTFIN first because the processing of the RELFILEs is controlle

Re: GML

2010-07-03 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
l...@garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes: > more history here (also mentions last names): > http://www.sgmlsource.com/history/roots.htm re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010k.html#42 GML from roots.htm ... Later in 1971, when product development was imminent, I gave GML its present name so th

Re: SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNTS

2010-07-03 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > > On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 13:00:08 -0500, Chase, John wrote: > > > >Unfortunately, I didn't get that far. My job was still unzipping one of > >the /SMPPTFIN archives when it pushed back saying, "I'm stuffe

Re: GML (was Unix systems and Serialization mechanism)

2010-07-03 Thread zMan
Mmmm, no, GML was first implemented using Script macros. It has nothing to do with Script per se. On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > >Genenalized Markup Languge, often called Script > > GML is a superset of Script. > Script came first, then GML tags were developed as Macros in

Re: ENQ trap for dynamic allocation

2010-07-03 Thread John McKown
On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 20:54 -0400, Peter Relson wrote: > Has anyone identified to IBM the exact need of this application? It is not > to intercept all ENQs. Yet by intercepting all ENQs, you might be > adversely affecting the entire system. In all likelihood, even if the > requirement were ac

Re: Serial Attached SCSI (SAS) disk compared to Fibre Channel

2010-07-03 Thread Ron Hawkins
Fred, Seeing as the USP-VM does not support SAS drives, it is more likely that they are considering SAS drives that are installed in a HDS or other vendor's Storage Controller. In that case the performance of IO that goes past USP-VM cache to the external storage will largely depend on the design

Re: ENQ trap for dynamic allocation

2010-07-03 Thread Peter Relson
Just pointing out the obvious: This whole thread is exactly why it is important to code your applications to programming interfaces. Intercepting, front-ending, whatever: you are only asking for trouble. But I will point out that we have been making concerted efforts to get ISVs to share with

Re: GML

2010-07-03 Thread Linda Mooney
And to think, I stayed with GML as long as I could because, once one passed the learning curve, GML was really fast to write - at least for me it was.   When we lost our VM machine, some of us used B2H to convert our files to html.  B2H did a pret ty decent job, but I never could get it to print

Re: GML

2010-07-03 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
efinnel...@aol.com (Ed Finnell) writes: > We were ESP for early GML and the little tin foil printers 42xx > somethings. IIRC SCRIPT and Waterloo were similar but diverged at the > MACRO level starting with GML. Dr Goldfarb used to be one of the > 'highlight' sessions at SHARE and was entertaining a

Re: SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNTS

2010-07-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 10:49:41 -0500, Chase, John wrote: >Hi All > >A RECEIVE FROMNETWORK job that ran all night finally failed for lack of >space in the SMPWKDIR filesystem. So, since the downloaded package is >still present in the SMPNTS filesystem, I thought I'd try just a RECEIVE >FROMNTS with

Re: GML (was Unix systems and Serialization mechanism)

2010-07-03 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/3/2010 3:27:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, linda.lst...@comcast.net writes: Genenalized Markup Languge, often called Script, ran under VM/CMS, html is very similar to it. IBM used to produce their manuals years ago . I don't know if they developed it. I used it for

Re: GML (was Unix systems and Serialization mechanism)

2010-07-03 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Genenalized Markup Languge, often called Script GML is a superset of Script. Script came first, then GML tags were developed as Macros in the scripting language. I believe it started as Waterloo script, then was acquired by IBM (on this I could be wrong). I wrote my University papers using Wa

Re: GML

2010-07-03 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
linda.lst...@comcast.net (Linda Mooney) writes: > Genenalized Markup Languge, often called Script, ran under VM/CMS, > html is very similar to it.  IBM used to produce their manuals years > ago .  I don't know if they developed it.  I used it for several years > during the '80s and early '90s to wr

Re: GML (was Unix systems and Serialization mechanism)

2010-07-03 Thread Linda Mooney
Greetings! Genenalized Markup Languge, often called Script, ran under VM/CMS, html is very similar to it.  IBM used to produce their manuals years ago .  I don't know if they developed it.  I used it for several years during the '80s and early '90s to write complex bids and documentation . 

Re: SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNTS

2010-07-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 13:00:08 -0500, Chase, John wrote: > >Unfortunately, I didn't get that far. My job was still unzipping one of >the /SMPPTFIN archives when it pushed back saying, "I'm stuffed, and >cannot eat another byte." It never made it to the /SMPRELF >subdirectory. :-( > You must be inst

Re: PDSMAN Equivalent

2010-07-03 Thread Norman Hollander on DesertWiz
Why $6 million? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 Saturday 5:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: PDSMAN Equivalent You may also look at EventAction.It does more then just

Re: SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNTS

2010-07-03 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > > [ snip ] > > > Is there a ROT relating size-of-SMPWKDIR to size-of-SMPNTS? Factor > of 3, perhaps? It ought to be better than that for RELFILES, since > recent releases of SMP/E load each expanded

Re: SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNTS

2010-07-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 11:29:41 -0500, Chase, John wrote: >> >>FROMNTS( 'package-ID.gimzip' ) >> //* >> //SMPNTS DD PATHOPTS=ORDONLY, >> // PATH='&NTS' > >Thanks. Don't know why I didn't think to try specifying the package id >(subdirectory name) without the ORDER keyword. > It might b

Re: SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNTS

2010-07-03 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > > On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 10:49:41 -0500, Chase, John wrote: > > > >"Naturally", there is no example of a RECEIVE FROMNTS command in the > >z/OS 1.11 SMP/E Commands manual > > > >Can anybody provide a c

Re: SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNTS

2010-07-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 3 Jul 2010 10:49:41 -0500, Chase, John wrote: > >"Naturally", there is no example of a RECEIVE FROMNTS command in the >z/OS 1.11 SMP/E Commands manual > >Can anybody provide a clue as to what a RECEIVE FROMNTS command should >look like, while I "restart" the RECEIVE FROMNETWORK job? > /

SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNTS

2010-07-03 Thread Chase, John
Hi All A RECEIVE FROMNETWORK job that ran all night finally failed for lack of space in the SMPWKDIR filesystem. So, since the downloaded package is still present in the SMPNTS filesystem, I thought I'd try just a RECEIVE FROMNTS with a larger SMPWKDIR, rather than "restart" the RECEIVE FROMNETWO

Re: Cataloguing fake tape datasets?

2010-07-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 23:48:25 -0500, Russell Witt wrote: >You could create dummy entries for a secondary file that does not really >exist. Let's say you have a tape with 15 data sets on it; you can use >TMSAGGR or TMSUDSNB to create a file-16 in the TMC (chained to file-15 on >that specific volume).

Re: Taglines

2010-07-03 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
ptl...@midamerican.com (Patrick Lyon) writes: > OMG - I have to hand it to you Ted. I didn't think it was possible to come > up > with a tagline more annoying than your last, but by George, you've done it. standard distributions tend to come with lots of quotes from Zippy The Pinhead http://en.

Re: PDSMAN Equivalent

2010-07-03 Thread Itschak Mugzach
You may also look at EventAction.It does more then just member usage audit, but I believe it will cost less them 6M ;-) ITschak On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 11:37 PM, George Henke wrote: > There are also ACF2 cleanup packages (CA) which help cleanup old rules. It > may have some options for members

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