Re: DFDSS VSAM logical restore?

2010-10-24 Thread Ed Gould
John: One warning that hit me. We used to do weekly dump & restore of the HSM cds's.Make sure you make two copies of the backup tape. Either after dump copy to another tape or create 2 copies with the dump.This saved my ass more than once. Tape is not even close to being 100 percent dependable.

Re: SAP ON IBM mainframe

2010-10-24 Thread Graeme Gibson
Umm, I suspect Ed is remembering that IBM-MAIN is not exclusively about z/.. . That Power 795 sounds like a fairly ferocious beast, if it really can support 70,000 concurrent "users", no matter how trivial their transactions, as the quoted benchmark results suggest. Certainly a very powerful

Re: Abending TCB

2010-10-24 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sat, 23 Oct 2010 22:20:26 -0400 Micheal Butz wrote: :> If a main program uses a Estae rtn then does Multiple Attaches specifying :>the same ESTAE rtn on the ESTAI parm of the attach can the recovery routine :>determine the abending TCB The abending task will be the current TCB. -- Binyamin

Re: How do I determine Enterprise COBOL for z/OS release level from outside COBOL or LE environment?

2010-10-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>You won't find any COBOL compiler in my production LPAR. >Or SMP/E datasets for that matter. >No compiling needed outside development and only Target data cloned for the >LPARs. Their product (QUIKREF) is rarely used in the production environment. Rather the majority of users are in development

AUTO: Dave Cameron is out of the office (returning 10/31/2010)

2010-10-24 Thread Dave Cameron
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Re: Storage usage in a job

2010-10-24 Thread Toole, Michael
Real Mike -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Phil Smith Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 3:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Storage usage in a job Mike Toole wrote: >The 120T in SDSF refers to 120 thousand frames.

Re: DFDSS VSAM logical restore?

2010-10-24 Thread John McKown
On Sun, 2010-10-24 at 00:05 -0700, Ed Gould wrote: > John: > One warning that hit me. We used to do weekly dump & restore of the HSM > cds's.Make sure you make two copies of the backup tape. Either after dump > copy to another tape or create 2 copies with the dump.This saved my ass more > than o

Re: Abending TCB

2010-10-24 Thread Peter Relson
ESTAI runs under the abending task (it can even retry witin that task). Thus the answer is the same that would apply to any ESTAE-type recovery routine (or FRR). You can look at PSATOLD to see what task (or, for FRR, if it's a task) that you're running under Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology D

Re: SAP ON IBM mainframe

2010-10-24 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
and for only a little topic drift, another recent article The Scariest Company in Tech http://www.conceivablytech.com/3637/business/the-scariest-company-in-tech it references a presentation from 2001 that mentions the fastest DBMS on the largest IBM computer. I noticed, in part because of referen

Re: IBM-DYNAMIC 3270 emulated terminal type

2010-10-24 Thread Chris Mason
To all who may be trying to follow this thread I suggested a change to the text in the referenced Technote from "You may need to specify the APPLID and LOGMODE using another format, ..." to "You may be more used to specifying the APPLID and LOGMODE using another format, ..." but I forgot to exp

Re: AUTO: Dave Cameron is out of the office (returning 10/31/2010)

2010-10-24 Thread Chris Mason
> Dave Cameron is out of the office Close on 50% of the UK electorate wish that this were indeed so! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-

Re: How do I determine Enterprise COBOL for z/OS release level from outside COBOL or LE environment?

2010-10-24 Thread Don Imbriale
In most shops I've been in that had QuickRef, the product was used in production as well as development and testing. In the wee hours of the morning when a production job goes belly up, those shooting the problem need/want quick access to relevant information. QuickRef would usually provide that.

Re: How do I determine Enterprise COBOL for z/OS release level from outside COBOL or LE environment?

2010-10-24 Thread Don Imbriale
Any COBOL messages to be displayed should be those for the level of the compiler that was used to compile the program, not necessarily the level that is currently installed. - Don Imbriale On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Mike Shaw wrote: > > Our ISV product displays message descriptions under

Re: How do I determine Enterprise COBOL for z/OS release level from outside COBOL or LE environment?

2010-10-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Any COBOL messages to be displayed should be those for the level of the >compiler that was used to compile the program, not necessarily the level that >is currently installed. A good point, and the same is valid for HLASM; how does QUIKREF determine that. It would be even trickier than determin

Re: How do I determine Enterprise COBOL for z/OS release level from outside COBOL or LE environment?

2010-10-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>In most shops I've been in that had QuickRef, the product was used in >production as well as development and testing. I've worked in environments where developers rarely sign on to production, especially since the compilers aren't there ((8-{]}). With shared spool, sysplex, archivers such as S

Re: How do I determine Enterprise COBOL for z/OS release level from outside COBOL or LE environment?

2010-10-24 Thread Clark Morris
On 24 Oct 2010 08:51:33 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >Any COBOL messages to be displayed should be those for the level of the >compiler that was used to compile the program, not necessarily the level >that is currently installed. If the compiled program is generating a COBOL message

OT: Re: AUTO: Dave Cameron is out of the office (returning 10/31/2010)

2010-10-24 Thread Clark Morris
On 24 Oct 2010 07:25:30 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >> Dave Cameron is out of the office > >Close on 50% of the UK electorate wish that this were indeed so! Couldn't you substitute a large number of politician's names and countries in that statement and have it still true. If thei

Re: Abending TCB

2010-10-24 Thread Chris Craddock
Mike Butz writes: If a main program uses a Estae rtn then does Multiple Attaches specifying > the same ESTAE rtn on the ESTAI parm of the attach can the recovery routine > determine the abending TCB > If you are getting control in any non-FRR recovery routine (ESTAI, ESTAE(x) or ARR) then the

Design question for a UNIX facility similar to TSO SEND command

2010-10-24 Thread John McKown
The TSO SEND command can send a message from one TSO user to another TSO user. This works even if the two users are on different z/OS images, so long as they are in the same JESPLEX. This also appears to work for the z/OS SEND operator command. The closest equivalent to this that I can find for thi

Re: How do I determine Enterprise COBOL for z/OS release level from outside COBOL or LE environment?

2010-10-24 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 11:49 -0400 on 10/24/2010, Don Imbriale wrote about Re: How do I determine Enterprise COBOL for z/OS release le: Any COBOL messages to be displayed should be those for the level of the compiler that was used to compile the program, not necessarily the level that is currently installed. - Do

Re: How do I determine Enterprise COBOL for z/OS release level from outside COBOL or LE environment?

2010-10-24 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>That would show the level of LE on the system not the compiler level (since LE >routines can get called by a program compiled by a lower version because LE has alias names for the downlevel Cobol Versions of the dynamically called routines). And, as I've stated before, what if the LE is in pro

Re: PDSE versus PDS

2010-10-24 Thread William H. Blair
Charles Mills asked: | A PDSE can hold program objects that are effortlessly | converted to conventional load modules when you copy | them to a PDS. How's that? IEBCOPY invokes the Program Binder to do the conversion. For example: > IEB1135I IEBCOPY FMID HDZ1A10 SERVICE LEVEL NONE

RSMDATA Data area Validty Check in IPCS

2010-10-24 Thread michealbutz
Hi, Was wondering did anyone ever experience an RSMDATA data area validity check processing an IPCS dump When I ran the exception report it dumped the RCE data area -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instr

Re: PDSE versus PDS

2010-10-24 Thread john gilmore
William Blair wrote | . . . back and forth, back and forth, as long as no Program Object-only constructs are included . . . This is nearly correct; but 1) the PDSE-only constructs are usually the point; and 2) the maximal size of a PDS-resident load module is 16 megabytes and that of a PDSE

Re: PDSE versus PDS

2010-10-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 02:28:32 +, john gilmore wrote: > >The decision not to support IPL-time use of PDSEs was an unconscionable one. >It would indeed be easy to caricature it as sabotage. > Perhaps likewise the decision not to support network-mounted files at IPL-time. But Mr. Blair is w

Re: PDSE versus PDS

2010-10-24 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 10/25/2010 1:38 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: I understand that when a PDS member name is removed by BLDL aliases are not removed. Whether this is "radically deficient" depends in large part on what happens when the remaining aliases are referenced or when the PDS is compressed. I don't know.