Re: USS

2011-11-19 Thread Ken Brick
On 19/11/2011 09:12 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups 2 Billion Christians, 1.5 Billion Muslims, 1 Billion Hindus, 0.5 Billion Buddists, 0.5 Billion Chinese Folk religions, 0.5 Billion other Folk religions, 0.050 Billion Shinto, 0.025 Billion Sikhs, 0.015

Re: USS

2011-11-19 Thread Mike Schwab
On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Ken Brick wrote: > On 19/11/2011 09:12 AM, Mike Schwab wrote: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_religious_groups >> 2 Billion Christians, >> 1.5 Billion Muslims, >> 1 Billion Hindus, >> 0.5 Billion Buddists, >> 0.5 Billion Chinese Folk religions, >> 0.5 Bill

Religious controversy on IBM-MAIN

2011-11-19 Thread John Gilmore
Historically, many fora having another focus have found it advisable to avoid the discussion of religion, which is divisive and likely to escalate into invective and worse. We are a mixture of the devout, the indifferent, and the militantly anti-religious. This mixture is explosive. It would the

Re: USS

2011-11-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:22:33 -0600, Mike Schwab wrote: >... >Yep. I always like the scene in The Shoes of The Fisherman where >Anthony Quinn playing the recently elected but unrecognized pope >starts performing the Catholic last rites then switches to the Jewish >version. > Daaarrrennn! -- gi

Re: Religious controversy on IBM-MAIN

2011-11-19 Thread Rick Fochtman
Historically, many fora having another focus have found it advisable to avoid the discussion of religion, which is divisive and likely to escalate into invective and worse. We are a mixture of the devout, the indiffer

Re: USS

2011-11-19 Thread Darren Evans-Young
Ok, kill this thread now! I'm going to start setting folks to NOPOST status. Darren -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search

Re: USS

2011-11-19 Thread Mike Liberatore
Thank you!!! --Original Message-- From: Darren Evans-Young Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: USS Sent: Nov 19, 2011 11:23 AM Ok, kill this thread now! I'm going to start setting folks to NOPOST status. Darre

Re: Braces, Brackets, Broken braces, and Parentheses

2011-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/17/2011 at 09:46 PM, John Gilmore said: >o that <,>, used in BNF notation, are broken brackets I've never seen the term. >are consonant with standand Anglo-American mathematical and >computer-science usage. Brackets, braces and parentheses are, but I'm not aware of any Mathematic

Re: USS

2011-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <1321498401.83371.yahoomailmob...@web161405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, on 11/16/2011 at 06:53 PM, Ed Gould said: >Shhh the acronym causes certain people to become rabid. Ted being one of them. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: IEFU85 question

2011-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4ec6429b.9090...@isis-papyrus.com>, on 11/18/2011 at 12:33 PM, Miklos Szigetvari said: >Can I use here USS calls ? I doubt that you can use either USS or Unix services in the exit. Unless the documentation says that it is safe, I would expect calls to Unix services to ABEND, risk deadlock

Re: USS

2011-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <1839031969-1321497845-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2050937286-@b11.c1.bise6.blackberry>, on 11/17/2011 at 02:44 AM, Ted MacNEIL said: >Can't anybody give this a rest? Physician, heal thyself! >What is 'official' John is official enough for me; he's certainly a more reliable

Re: Conditional assembly for COBOL?

2011-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/17/2011 at 01:10 PM, John Gilmore said: >I have myself generated entire C and PL/I routines C[1] I understand, but why not use PL/I's macro facility? [1] The preprocessor language is pathetic, unlike PL/I's. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position;

Re: Humour

2011-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <2016162744.6b90b24...@panix5.panix.com>, on 11/16/2011 at 11:27 AM, Rich Greenberg said: >I am not sure if this is what you are referring to, It's not, but it's a classic and funnier. Especially the warning about paging nonresident galaxies. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysPro

Re: Religious controversy on IBM-MAIN

2011-11-19 Thread Shane
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 09:19:48 -0600 Rick Fochtman wrote: > This is a technical forum, ... All too rarely. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the m

EOFDISK - CBTTAPE 846

2011-11-19 Thread Robert Prins
I'm trying to assemble this on a z/OS system and having changed the JCL to something that actually allows me to assemble the code, I get these four errors, and having no assembler knowledge to speak off, can anyone explain me what I need to change: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Re: EOFDISK - CBTTAPE 846

2011-11-19 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:42:19 +, Robert Prins wrote: >I'm trying to assemble this on a z/OS system and having changed the >JCL to something that actually allows me to assemble the code, I get >these four errors, and having no assembler knowledge to speak off, can >anyone explain me what I need

Re: Inline Rexx in JCL?

2011-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/17/2011 at 03:00 PM, Roger Bolan said: >This worked just fine a minute ago for me. It is not inline. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S

Re: EOFDISK - CBTTAPE 846

2011-11-19 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Missing SYSLIB - point it to SYS1.MACLIB and SYS1.MODGEN On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:42:19 + Robert Prins wrote: :>I'm trying to assemble this on a z/OS system and having changed the :>JCL to something that actually allows me to assemble the code, I get :>these four errors, and having no assemble

Re: Inline Rexx in JCL?

2011-11-19 Thread Roger Bolan
Okay, so wouldn't a simple IEBGENER step first to copy the inline source code into a member followed by the IKJEFT01 step do the job. --Roger On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) < shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net> wrote: > In > , > on 11/17/2011 > at 03:00 PM, Roger Bolan said

Re: Braces, Brackets, Broken braces, and Parentheses

2011-11-19 Thread John Gilmore
Shmuel, If you'll look into the Wikipedia piece on Brackets, you'll find mention of the "occasional" use of the term "broken brackets" and some examples. It is the one I have used routinely for many years. (I have consulted my colleagues, and they use it too, but I may very well have contaminate

Re: Religious controversy on IBM-MAIN

2011-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/19/2011 at 09:18 AM, John Gilmore said: >We are a mixture of the devout, the indifferent, and the militantly >anti-religious. This mixture is explosive. Religous comments would be potentially explosive even if everyone here were devout, perhaps especially if everyone here were dev

Re: ISRPROF member is hosed

2011-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/18/2011 at 11:35 AM, John Norgauer said: >Any one experience their profile data set member getting hosed up. Sharing a profile member between concurrent sessions? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Help on Rexx Code.

2011-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/18/2011 at 10:35 PM, sunil mirchandani said: >since i am new to rexx so any one can look and suggest me with any >sample or written rexx code. I'd start by looking at the REXX code in SYS1.SAMPLIB for calling the Catalog Search Interface (CSI). I'd also read up on the date() functi

Re: Terminology RE: USS

2011-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/18/2011 at 08:02 AM, "McKown, John" said: >#! is normally pronounced "shebang" in UNIX. I guess a verbal >slurring of "hash bang" together. I doubt it; my guiess is that the term is short for "shell bang"; it's used with the file of a shell or language processor, e.g., bash, Perl.

Re: Terminology RE: USS

2011-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/18/2011 at 07:57 AM, Ken Hume IBM said: >We always called the * a "splat". I believe that is the norm in EUnix circles. Likewise bang for "!" and shebang for "#!". -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Terminology RE: USS

2011-11-19 Thread Mike Liberatore
Out --Original Message-- From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Terminology RE: USS Sent: Nov 19, 2011 7:17 PM In , on 11/18/2011 at 07:57 AM, Ken Hume IBM said: >We always calle

Re: Braces, Brackets, Broken braces, and Parentheses

2011-11-19 Thread Mike Liberatore
Out --Original Message-- From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Braces, Brackets, Broken braces, and Parentheses Sent: Nov 19, 2011 6:54 PM In <45fcfbbb8bc8eb4a9dfedc6fa2cc7fdf015...@

Re: Terminology RE: USS

2011-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 11/18/2011 at 09:14 AM, John Gilmore said: >'<' and '>' are often called broken brackets. The ALGOL definition >document, for example, uses this term, as do many descriptions of >BNF. Neither "REPORT ON THE ALGORITHMIC LANGUAGE ALGOL 60" nor "Revised Report on ALGOL 60" use the term

Re: Terminology RE: USS

2011-11-19 Thread Mike Liberatore
Out --Original Message-- From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Terminology RE: USS Sent: Nov 19, 2011 9:23 PM In , on 11/18/2011 at 09:14 AM, John Gilmore said: >'<' and '>' are

Re: Help on Rexx Code.

2011-11-19 Thread Mike Liberatore
Out --Original Message-- From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Subject: Re: Help on Rexx Code. Sent: Nov 19, 2011 7:03 PM In , on 11/18/2011 at 10:35 PM, sunil mirchandani said: >since i am

Re: Terminology RE: USS

2011-11-19 Thread Tony Harminc
On 18 November 2011 11:01, John Gilmore wrote: > This 'Shebang'---There is of course another one--- is not just a > verbal slurring of 'Hash Bang'.  It has a much more elegant name.  It > is a conflation. > > Consider, just in English, to which they are not confined, > > o       Edmund Spenser: wr

Re: Help on Rexx Code.

2011-11-19 Thread John McKown
On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 19:03 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > In > , > on 11/18/2011 >at 10:35 PM, sunil mirchandani > said: > > >since i am new to rexx so any one can look and suggest me with any > >sample or written rexx code. > > I'd start by looking at the REXX code in SYS1.SAMPLI

Re: Braces, Brackets, Broken braces, and Parentheses

2011-11-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <45fcfbbb8bc8eb4a9dfedc6fa2cc7fdf015...@sdkmbx02.emea.sas.com>, on 11/18/2011 at 03:48 PM, Lindy Mayfield said: >The trouble I have gotten into is when the word "bracket" is used, I >automatically think square brackets. AFAIK the word "brackets" refers specifically to [], although I have e

Re: Religious controversy on IBM-MAIN

2011-11-19 Thread CM Poncelet
The only religion that matters is logic. Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In , on 11/19/2011 at 09:18 AM, John Gilmore said: We are a mixture of the devout, the indifferent, and the militantly anti-religious. This mixture is explosive. Religous comments would be potentially explo

Re: Braces, Brackets, Broken braces, and Parentheses

2011-11-19 Thread CM Poncelet
In French, "guillemets" refer to single quotes (" ' "). Double quotes (' " ') are called "double guillemets". John Gilmore wrote: Shmuel, If you'll look into the Wikipedia piece on Brackets, you'll find mention of the "occasional" use of the term "broken brackets" and some examples. It is t