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2012-05-24 Thread John Stevenson
I will be out of the office starting 24/05/2012 and will return on 28/05/2012. For anything urgent contact the Mainframe Services support number, x79371 or 04 924 9371 or email BNZ Mainframe Services. CAUTION - This message may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for t

Re: Comparing datasets

2012-05-24 Thread Charles Mills
Very cool! Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Sri h Kolusu Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 8:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Comparing datasets Zaromil, You can use DFSORT's JOINKEYS to compare the datasets.

Re: IBM's first tape drive turns 60 (makes you feel old!)

2012-05-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 23 May 2012 10:33:52 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >on 05/22/2012 at 10:22 AM, John Gilmore said: > >>One-inch tapes were once very common in IBM shops, > >Common? > I had the impression they were rare (well, I never saw one). And expensive. It wouldn't make economic sense to

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Knutson, Sam
V1.1.1 adds a new connection type which z/OSMF and is required to view active jobs. This depends on z/OSMF and specifically requires z/OSMF at 1.13. V1.1.1 still supports FTP connections but with the limitations they have had previously which are relieved with the new connection type. If you try

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/24/2012 9:44 AM, Knutson, Sam wrote: z/OS role of Explorer Eclipse GUI was updated to use that in V1.1.1 but it does require z/OS 1.13. That combination will let you look at running jobs with Explorer. The price on Explorer is right... Free. I don't think CICS Explorer depends on any in

Re: Comparison of compiler generated code AD 1980(ish) v 2010(ish)

2012-05-24 Thread Bernd Oppolzer
The test runs were on a z196 with current z/OS release. I didn't do the tests myself, only was told about the results, but the co-worker normally is very reliable. Regards Bernd Am 24.05.2012 12:54, schrieb Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.): In<4fbd69b6.5080...@t-online.de>, on 05/24/2012 at 12:

Re: Early IPL problems

2012-05-24 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
On 5/23/2012 10:17 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: You also used this to reply to password requests for system data sets having all hex-zero passwords. I don't recall[1] having done so. If you can explain How I forgot, I'd like to try the same technique on some other, equally undesirable, m

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Knutson, Sam
z/OS role of Explorer Eclipse GUI was updated to use that in V1.1.1 but it does require z/OS 1.13. That combination will let you look at running jobs with Explorer. The price on Explorer is right... Free. http://www-01.ibm.com/software/htp/cics/explorer/     Best Regards,  

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 11:51 -0400, Edward Jaffe wrote: > Lol! z/OSMF security has been a struggle for RACF shops too! :D MSM had its own set of security demands... -- David Andrews A. Duda & Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com --

RESOURCE CONTROL TABLE ???

2012-05-24 Thread Uwe Oswald
Hi, hope someone can help. Does someone have a REXX code fragment where I can get the actual (!) MSU of a LPAR usage splitted up by WLM importances? I mean something like field " RCTLACS " in RCT for the 4h rolling Average. In what (control block-) field is the actual MSU usage and is there a c

Re: Comparing datasets

2012-05-24 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Zaromil, You can use DFSORT's JOINKEYS to compare the datasets. Here is a sample job which will compare the 2 datasets treating the first 2 bytes as a key to compare. You can have a maximum of 4080 bytes as a key. //STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT //SYSOUT DD SYSOUT=* //INA DD * C1 B1 A1 E1

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 5/24/2012 8:46 AM, Martin, Larry D wrote: I think it is a really good tool. The security, however, is very complex. If you are a RACF shop then you are in good shape. We are Top Secret and it was a real struggle. Lol! z/OSMF security has been a struggle for RACF shops too! :D This is p

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Martin, Larry D
Matt, I think it is a really good tool. The security, however, is very complex. If you are a RACF shop then you are in good shape. We are Top Secret and it was a real struggle. ..Larry -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Be

Re: humor: look at the "logo" these people made for IBM. It is "cute"

2012-05-24 Thread zMan
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Pommier, Rex R. wrote: > It's been around for a long time, but not with the microphone and "not" > slash across the eye. That was the part I thought John was talking about. Good catch, I missed that! -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Kirk Wolf
z/OS MF also includes a new web service API, the "z/OS jobs REST interface" - http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/zosmf/vxrx/topic/com.ibm.zosmf.configguide.help.doc/IZUHPINFO_API_RESTJOBS.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / si

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread John Gilmore
On 5/24/12, Tom Ambros wrote: > Do it. If you do any policy based networking you'll be happy you did. > Incident packaging is nice, we don't use it a ton because we haven't > seemed to have had too many incidents for a while but it does make it > simpler to get all the diagnostics wrapped up with

Re: humor: look at the "logo" these people made for IBM. It is "cute"

2012-05-24 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
It's been around for a long time, but not with the microphone and "not" slash across the eye. That was the part I thought John was talking about. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:0

Re: Comparing datasets

2012-05-24 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
It's not ISPF, but ICETOOL should be able to give you what you want. Look up the OCCUR operator. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Zaromil Tisler Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: C

Re: humor: look at the "logo" these people made for IBM. It is "cute"

2012-05-24 Thread McKown, John
Oh, I'd never seen it before. Thanks for the correction. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice:

Re: IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Tom Ambros
Do it. If you do any policy based networking you'll be happy you did. Incident packaging is nice, we don't use it a ton because we haven't seemed to have had too many incidents for a while but it does make it simpler to get all the diagnostics wrapped up with a bow. It looks like there's a fa

Re: humor: look at the "logo" these people made for IBM. It is "cute"

2012-05-24 Thread zMan
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 8:41 AM, McKown, John wrote: > > http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/ibms-siri-ban-highlights-companies-privacy-trade-secret-challenges/ > > It's about IBM banning Siri due to how it works. But the "IBM logo" they > created is very "cute". They didn't create that -- IBM

IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)

2012-05-24 Thread Dazzo, Matt
So what do you folks have to say about IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF)? We have zos1.13 up and running and considering configuring IBM(r) z/OS(r) Management Facility (z/OSMF). Looking to see find out how hard it is to configure and how useful it is? Or any other info you might find u

Re: Brain drain: Where Cobol systems go from here

2012-05-24 Thread Roberts, John J
>Now, folks want to assert that today's "youngsters" are too stupid to turn >into COBOL programmers?  Well, dang it, sonny - the same thing was said >about us back in the day - and see how that turned out. I don't think anyone is trying to claim that younger people can't learn COBOL. After all

Re: Comparison of compiler generated code AD 1980(ish) v 2010(ish)

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4fbd69b6.5080...@t-online.de>, on 05/24/2012 at 12:50 AM, Bernd Oppolzer said: >This limit is too high, in our opinion, because some tests showed, On what processor? I assume that IBM wants to optimize for a196 and later. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO posi

Re: Co-existance of z/OS and z/VM on same DASD farm

2012-05-24 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
p...@voltage.com (Phil Smith) writes: > VM/XA MA begat VM/XA SF begat VM/XA SP, which eventually moved to > Endicott, and became VM/ESA and then z/VM. The core of VM/XA was > actually much better than VM/SP; as a developer I found it much easier > to work with. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2012

Re: 24/7/365 appropriateness was Re: IBMLink outages in 2012

2012-05-24 Thread Bill Fairchild
Read it again. He did say both "shortcut" and "shorthand" Bill Fairchild Programmer Rocket Software 408 Chamberlain Park Lane * Franklin, TN 37069-2526 * USA t: +1.617.614.4503 * e: bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com * w: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discus

SV: Brain drain: Where Cobol systems go from here

2012-05-24 Thread Thomas Berg
There will always exist the solution to pay good enough money that talented programmers can solve this problem. A good programmer/analyst is not hindered (long) by unknown coding language. The problem is companies that don't understand this. Regards, Thomas Berg

humor: look at the "logo" these people made for IBM. It is "cute"

2012-05-24 Thread McKown, John
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/05/ibms-siri-ban-highlights-companies-privacy-trade-secret-challenges/ It's about IBM banning Siri due to how it works. But the "IBM logo" they created is very "cute". John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boul

Re: Cartons of Punch Cards

2012-05-24 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com writes: > As I understand it, years ago in foreign countries telephone capacity > was limited and phones were expensive, thus many people did not have > them. When cell phones came out, it represented a whole new > infrastructure that exploded, and many people got connected t

Re: 24/7/365 appropriateness was Re: IBMLink outages in 2012

2012-05-24 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"zMan" wrote in message news:... > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) < > shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net> wrote: > > > In , on 05/23/2012 > >at 08:54 AM, Clark Morris said: > > > > >On a logical basis I agree with you but has the 24/7/365 shortcut > > >for continuous avai

Re: 24/7/365 appropriateness was Re: IBMLink outages in 2012

2012-05-24 Thread zMan
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) < shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net> wrote: > In , on 05/23/2012 >at 08:54 AM, Clark Morris said: > > >On a logical basis I agree with you but has the 24/7/365 shortcut > >for continuous availability become so pervasive that it is the > >sho

Re: 24/7/365 appropriateness was Re: IBMLink outages in 2012

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 05/23/2012 at 08:54 AM, Clark Morris said: >On a logical basis I agree with you but has the 24/7/365 shortcut >for continuous availability become so pervasive that it is the >shorthand way for saying it Shorthand? How is 24/7/365 shorter than 24/7? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Met

Re: IBM's first tape drive turns 60 (makes you feel old!)

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4fbb73d4.9090...@bremultibank.com.pl>, on 05/22/2012 at 01:09 PM, "R.S." said: >BTW: I heard about 1-inch tapes. Is it true? Did such wide tapes >exist? Yes. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don

Re: IBM's first tape drive turns 60 (makes you feel old!)

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <985915eee6984740ae93f8495c624c6c21e3656...@jscpcwexmaa1.bsg.ad.adp.com>, on 05/22/2012 at 09:03 AM, "Farley, Peter x23353" said: >I don't know about IBM, but there was a 2nd generation Philco >computer system I know about it, but I've never met anybody that used one. -- Shmuel (Se

Re: IBM's first tape drive turns 60 (makes you feel old!)

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 05/22/2012 at 10:22 AM, John Gilmore said: >One-inch tapes were once very common in IBM shops, Common? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S8

Re: XPLINK Modules in SCEERUN2

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4fbba8e9.9030...@custserv.com>, on 05/22/2012 at 10:55 AM, Mark Jacobs said: >From the Ported Tools - OpenSSH Manual Ouch! >* Put the Language Environment® run-time library SCEERUN2 > in the LNKLST member of SYS1.PARMLIB. Does anybody still use that? -- Shmuel (

Re: IBMLink outages in 2012

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 05/21/2012 at 11:24 PM, Ed Gould said: >I vaguely remember an IBM product (INFO-MVS) which was (if memory >serves me) was a single (??) reel 6250 tape sent monthly by IBM. INFO-MVS was another product in the same family. There was also INFO-ACCESS, which let you ship dumps to IBM el

Re: Early IPL problems

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4fbadd3e.5050...@valley.net>, on 05/21/2012 at 08:26 PM, Gerhard Postpischil said: >You also used this to reply to password requests for system data >sets having all hex-zero passwords. I don't recall[1] having done so. If you can explain How I forgot, I'd like to try the same technique

Re: Rexx - calling assembler question

2012-05-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <3493325860710629.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu>, on 05/21/2012 at 07:44 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: >Well, then, a CMS-Rexx flavor, with a pointer and a length. No, that's not what CMS uses. You don't want to know. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position

Comparing datasets

2012-05-24 Thread Zaromil Tisler
Is there z/OS (ISPF) tool that can check if all lines of dataset A are contained in dataset B? In other words, is there a tool that could check if dataset A is a subset of dataset B, where A and B are sets of records (lines)? I can accomplish it using COMPARE ISPF edit function or SuperC Compare