Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Hi all, I encountered a reference to the EDGAR editor today, which (it was said) would run under VM/370 R6. Does anyone know of a source for EDGAR? Or is it lost in the mists of time? TIA for your help. Peter _ This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee a

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Ray Mullins
You might try asking on VMESA-L. An archive search showed a couple of comments back in 1997, in reference to a SHARE session in San Francisco. Later, Ray list On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 13:06:06 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi all, > >I encountered a reference to the EDGAR

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks, I'll check the archives there. Peter > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 1:35 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anyw

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread richgr
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >Hi all, > >I encountered a reference to the EDGAR editor today, which (it was said) >would run under VM/370 R6. > >Does anyone know of a source for EDGAR? Or is it lost in the mists of time? Just curious, but why do you need/want EDGAR? It was an IBM pr

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Ray Mullins
available anywhere? Thanks, I'll check the archives there. Peter > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 1:35 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is stil

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
ECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 3:07 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere? > > Somebody just posted on H390-VM about where it is. > > Ray _ This message and any attachments are intended only for

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
an FDP, not a PP. Peter > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 3:05 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere? > Just curious,

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Jim Phoenix
Well, the Quick Reference Guide I have, GX20-2340-0 says that the Display Editing System for CMS (5796-PJP) is an Insstalled User Program (IUP). Unfortunately, the card is undated. Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: For VM/370 R6 under Hercules, where we have no XEDIT nor any other fullscreen editor

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread richgr
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: >For VM/370 R6 under Hercules, where we have no XEDIT nor any other >fullscreen editor available. However, I have been informed privately that >EDGAR also required DIAG 58, which is also not present in VM/370 R6. I am fairly sure that is not correct. It

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Thanks for that, Rich. If I ever find a copy, I guess that will settle the question. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 4:13 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Anyone know whether

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
e write to me offline. Many thanks. Peter > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 4:18 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere? >

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/12/2005 at 03:08 PM, "Farley, Peter x23353" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >For VM/370 R6 under Hercules, where we have no XEDIT nor any other >fullscreen editor available. Are you sure? I vaguely recall having a primitive fullscreen editor in VMF/370, which I lost int

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/12/2005 at 04:09 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >I am fairly sure that is not correct. It may have required HPO (High >Performance Option) which was available on (ISTR) VM/370 r4 or 5 and >6. Wasn't HPO an add-on to VM/SP, not to VMF/370? If so, Edgar was well and t

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-12 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Wasn't HPO an add-on to VM/SP, not to VMF/370? If so, Edgar was well and truly obsolete long before HPO came out ... High Performance Option was an SP add-on. Which came out just before VM/XA (SF). Which really didn't perform for a long time. We ran the various XA versions of VM before we found

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 08/12/2005 at 06:52 PM, "Farley, Peter x23353" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >IIRC, IUP's were not >copyrighted or licensed, though they were sometimes chargable. They were copyrighted as soon as copyrights were accepted for software. >ISTR the software hierarchy used

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-16 Thread Jim Phoenix
th it, please write to me offline. Many thanks. Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 4:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere? Well, the

Re: Anyone know whether VM/370 EDGAR is still available anywhere?

2005-08-16 Thread Ed Gould
On Aug 16, 2005, at 8:42 PM, Jim Phoenix wrote: Peter, The Quick Reference Guide states (any mis-spellings are my own): "The component of the IUP which provides the basic editing system functions is named EDGAR." Considering how old this card must be, I am amazed how "new" it looks. All 1