Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-04-02 Thread Jon Brock
To those of you who helped me with this problem earlier: thank you. After a bout of illness, I resumed working on our transfer and eventually -- with the help of the sysadmin at the server site -- got it working. Morals of the story: 1) Google is your friend, but he can be a confusing friend.

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-27 Thread Betsy Jeffery
I simplyhave a habit of putting SYSPRINT into just about everthing. If you want to quibble about such things, be my guest. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-27 Thread Betsy Jeffery
You are correct. I misspoke about the sshd running. Our developers didn't want to change their JCL. We're actually running lftp under System SSL for both telnet and sftp. I even showed them your dspipes tool and they wouldn't budge. St. Charles, MO - I'm a Lindenwood alum.

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-27 Thread Betsy Jeffery
OMVS is not unix. ssh as provided by IBM Ported tools is still ssh (open source) for unix. OMVS 'prohibits' ssh because of this in addition to the fact that straight ssh/sftp does not have a facility to work with MVS data set structure. IBM has been asked to 'fix' this multiple times. IMO

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-27 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Betsy Jeffery Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 9:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer OMVS is not unix. [snip] What do you mean by OMVS

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-27 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) writes: What do you mean by OMVS is not unix? I'm more curious than anything else. If you're talking about the TSO OMVS command,

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Also, z/OS UNIX System Service is also UNIX. It was the second OS to get the UNIX95 brand. HP/UX was the first. This was over 10 years ago. z/OS USS IS UNIX. (and, you know which USS I mean all you nit-pickers out there) - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/25/2008 at 11:06 AM, IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: o What use is SYSPRINT in an IKJEFT01 step? Perhaps not needed in this case, but in general it saves having to allocate and free SYSPRINT every time you want to run a utility. -- Shmuel

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/25/2008 at 09:41 AM, Betsy Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Therefore, sftp does not (and should not if it is to remain open source) recognize MVS data set structures. There is nothing in GPL2 and similar licenses that prohibits system-dependent code. In fact, a

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/23/2008 at 07:25 PM, Kirk Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: IBM's port of ssh has code that detects an OMVS environment and explicitly prohibits execution. Ouch! Thanks. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-25 Thread Betsy Jeffery
To execute sftp on z/OS using USS, you will need to install IBM Ported Tools. This is a no cost feature available on the IBM website http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/unix/port_tools.html The ssh daemon has to be running. I have recently set this up at our shop. sftp itself

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-25 Thread IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:41:26 -0600, Betsy Jeffery wrote: recognize MVS data set structures. You can use sftp in batch but you need extra steps. First you copy the data, the commands, then execute the transfer with those 2 files. Here is an example of going from z/OS to Unix: Lots of comments

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-25 Thread Kirk Wolf
Betsy , You don't need to run the sshd daemon to use the sftp client from z/OS. Also, even though OpenSSH is open source, it is licensed under a BSD license. IBM is free to modify it as they wish (which they have) and not redistribute their patches. Kirk Wolf On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 9:41 AM,

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-24 Thread J R
job to perform sftp transfer To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU IBM's port of ssh has code that detects an OMVS environment and explicitly prohibits execution. Same thing for the sftp command, as it uses 'ssh' under the covers. Try either one and you get: FOTS1252 The SSH client cannot be run

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-24 Thread Kirk Wolf
secret as to why... OA07837: DOCUMENTATION DEFECTS AND CLARIFICATIONS ssh has been disabled under OMVS because passwords are visible while they are being typed by the user in some situations. Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 19:25:21 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Batch job to perform

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/22/2008 at 11:17 AM, Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It is not possible to start an ssh session from within OMVS under TSO. Do you mean that the code does not support it, or only that there are configuration issues that prevent it? What is the specific obstacle

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-23 Thread Kirk Wolf
IBM's port of ssh has code that detects an OMVS environment and explicitly prohibits execution. Same thing for the sftp command, as it uses 'ssh' under the covers. Try either one and you get: FOTS1252 The SSH client cannot be run under OMVS. FOTS0841 Connection closed Its a big secret as to

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Pat Mihalec
to perform sftp transfer WE have a need to begin electronically sending data to a state agency which has formerly received a tape from us. They have set up an sftp server on their end and given us the user ID and password they want us to use. I can sign on to their site from Windows and from a Linux

Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Jon Brock
WE have a need to begin electronically sending data to a state agency which has formerly received a tape from us. They have set up an sftp server on their end and given us the user ID and password they want us to use. I can sign on to their site from Windows and from a Linux guest hosted on our

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon Brock [ snip ] Ideally, I would like to be able to set up a batch job that can be run under scheduler control to transmit this file when it is generated. If I am reading the correct information, though,

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 10:20 -0600, Pat Mihalec wrote: One of the problems that we encountered was the file/member that contained the ftp commands has to be set with nonum. There cannot be anything in column 72-80. FTP thinks this is data. Going OT, but you can place a semicolon at the end of

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Rugen, Len
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon Brock [ snip ] Ideally, I would like to be able to set up a batch job that can be run under scheduler control to transmit this file when it is generated

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Chase, John
Sorry; hit Send too soon -Original Message- From: Chase, John -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jon Brock [ snip ] Ideally, I would like to be able to set up a batch job that can be run under scheduler control to

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Miller, Bill
Sioux City, NE 68776 Phone: 402-494-7354 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Brock Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Batch job to perform sftp transfer WE

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rugen, Len Remember sftp is not equal to ftpssl. Sorry; I ass.u.med the objective was only to accomplish an encrypted file transfer via scheduled batch job, and didn't perceive sftp specifically as a hard

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
using TLS. Larry Gray Large Systems Engineering Lowe's Companies 336-658-7944 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 11:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Batch job to perform sftp

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
without user intervention. -Original Message- From: Jon Brock Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 8:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Batch job to perform sftp transfer WE have a need to begin electronically sending data to a state agency which has formerly received a tape from us

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Dave Danner
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:17:13 -0500, Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ideally, I would like to be able to set up a batch job that can be run under scheduler control to transmit this file when it is generated. If I am reading the correct information, though, it is not possible to do this in batch

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Kirk Wolf
Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Brock Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 10:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Batch job to perform sftp transfer WE have a need to begin electronically sending data to a state agency which has formerly received a tape from us. They have

Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer

2008-02-22 Thread Miller, Bill
Thanks Kirk I will try this. Bill -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 4:34 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Batch job to perform sftp transfer Bill, This is a nice example